Not By Works
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It is interesting to me, though we may not communicate well, and obviously your approach
is not conventional, some have declared you "utterly lost".
If someone rejects Jesus that would make sense, or stays in wilful sin and refuses to repent.
Communicates their faith in an unconventional way? Not guilty, and could well be a brother in Christ.
This behaviour by others demonstrates to me their insecurity. Does it matter to them who
is lost before God and who is not, which they cannot determine anyway?
Press certain buttons, and out come the condemnations. As long as I know the Lord, the rest is up
to others, Amen.
So obeying Jesus. Is there a downside? There is the problem of miss-interpretation.
People have chopped their hands off, thinking their guilt would be sorted out by this and they would
enter heaven. They may have been also slightly nuts. Others invent OCD tight rules of self condemnation
where anything good they can think of, if they do not do, is sinful. Or they are obligated to follow anybody
elses request of their time over their own needs.
So yes there can be problems understanding what obeying Jesus is.
But at the level you are talking, people are very sensitive about starting to look at the issue,
Guilt and self condemnation is triggered by such considerations
is not conventional, some have declared you "utterly lost".
If someone rejects Jesus that would make sense, or stays in wilful sin and refuses to repent.
Communicates their faith in an unconventional way? Not guilty, and could well be a brother in Christ.
This behaviour by others demonstrates to me their insecurity. Does it matter to them who
is lost before God and who is not, which they cannot determine anyway?
Press certain buttons, and out come the condemnations. As long as I know the Lord, the rest is up
to others, Amen.
So obeying Jesus. Is there a downside? There is the problem of miss-interpretation.
People have chopped their hands off, thinking their guilt would be sorted out by this and they would
enter heaven. They may have been also slightly nuts. Others invent OCD tight rules of self condemnation
where anything good they can think of, if they do not do, is sinful. Or they are obligated to follow anybody
elses request of their time over their own needs.
So yes there can be problems understanding what obeying Jesus is.
But at the level you are talking, people are very sensitive about starting to look at the issue,
Guilt and self condemnation is triggered by such considerations
There is a danger with the mentally unstable, even those who show no signs of any mental instability.
There are faith alone denominations who send their youth to other countries to preach the gospel.
They go to dangerous areas of the world and think that this is pleasing to God.
There are people who think they have to have nothing and give up their homes and be homeless.
Really, a person could stay sitting and do the works that Jesus wants us to do they don't require any physical movement at all.
If is seems hard---then DON'T do it! Call on Jesus to help you.
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There is a brain disfunction where people see everywhere what their brain thinks it is seeing.
I have no answers to your projections, because you are not listening or want to know me or
even care about Jesus and what He is doing.
Non-christians talk like you about people who say Jesus has changed them.
So it suggests to me that is what you must be and have not experienced the change in Christ
so believe it is not true. God bless you.
I have no answers to your projections, because you are not listening or want to know me or
even care about Jesus and what He is doing.
Non-christians talk like you about people who say Jesus has changed them.
So it suggests to me that is what you must be and have not experienced the change in Christ
so believe it is not true. God bless you.
One of the passages where the word "repent" IS used, is in Acts 3, where Peter is speaking to "ye men of Israel"... note what he says:
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12 And when Peter saw it, he answered unto the people, Ye men of Israel, why marvel ye at this? or why look ye so earnestly on us, as though by our own power or holiness we had made this man to walk?
13 The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, the God of our fathers, hath glorified his Son [/Servant] Jesus; whom ye delivered up, and denied him in the presence of Pilate, when he was determined to let him go.
14 But ye denied the Holy One and the Just, and desired a murderer to be granted unto you;
15 And killed the Prince of life, whom God hath raised from the dead; whereof we are witnesses.
16 And his name through faith in his name hath made this man strong, whom ye see and know: yea, the faith which is by him hath given him this perfect soundness in the presence of you all.
17 And now, brethren [his Jewish brethren, that is], I wot that through ignorance ye did it, as did also your rulers.
18 But those things, which God before had shewed by the mouth of all his prophets, that Christ should suffer, he hath so fulfilled.
19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord.
Here, Peter is telling them to "metanoēsate" about the Person of Jesus Christ.
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12 And when Peter saw it, he answered unto the people, Ye men of Israel, why marvel ye at this? or why look ye so earnestly on us, as though by our own power or holiness we had made this man to walk?
13 The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, the God of our fathers, hath glorified his Son [/Servant] Jesus; whom ye delivered up, and denied him in the presence of Pilate, when he was determined to let him go.
14 But ye denied the Holy One and the Just, and desired a murderer to be granted unto you;
15 And killed the Prince of life, whom God hath raised from the dead; whereof we are witnesses.
16 And his name through faith in his name hath made this man strong, whom ye see and know: yea, the faith which is by him hath given him this perfect soundness in the presence of you all.
17 And now, brethren [his Jewish brethren, that is], I wot that through ignorance ye did it, as did also your rulers.
18 But those things, which God before had shewed by the mouth of all his prophets, that Christ should suffer, he hath so fulfilled.
19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord.
Here, Peter is telling them to "metanoēsate" about the Person of Jesus Christ.
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Oh, I see. I don't "care about Jesus" because I don't listen to you, huh?
You have no answers because you simply cannot defend your position, and that frustrates you.
And now you say I'm not a Christian?
You really are a piece of Pharisaic work. "Oh Lord, I thank Thee that I am not like these sinners...!"
You have no answers because you simply cannot defend your position, and that frustrates you.
And now you say I'm not a Christian?
You really are a piece of Pharisaic work. "Oh Lord, I thank Thee that I am not like these sinners...!"
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I didn't skip anything. I have been saying Jesus chooses who he wants to save, and he tells us he chooses those who believe and obey him.
You don't understand that scripture.
That scripture is during the time of Jesus' earthly ministry when only the lost sheep of Israel could come to Jesus to be saved.
Now God draws all to Him; but many people still resist.
You don't understand that scripture.
That scripture is during the time of Jesus' earthly ministry when only the lost sheep of Israel could come to Jesus to be saved.
Now God draws all to Him; but many people still resist.
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You could not make it any more obvious that you teach salvation by works.
The gospel is not about obtaining and maintaining salvation by works. That is a "different" gospel. (Galatians 1:6-9)
The gospel is the "good news" of the death, burial and resurrection of Christ (1 Corinthians 15:1-4) and is the power of God unto salvation to everyone that BELIEVES.. (Romans 1:16). To “believe” the gospel is to trust in the death, burial and resurrection of Christ as the ALL-sufficient means of our salvation.
The gospel is a message of grace to be received through faith. The gospel is not a set of rituals to perform, a code of laws to be obeyed or a check list of good works to accomplish as a prerequisite for salvation or to maintain salvation.
1 Corinthians 1:21 - For since, in the wisdom of God, the world through wisdom did not know God, it pleased God through the foolishness of the message preached to save those who BELIEVE.
The gospel is not about obtaining and maintaining salvation by works. That is a "different" gospel. (Galatians 1:6-9)
The gospel is the "good news" of the death, burial and resurrection of Christ (1 Corinthians 15:1-4) and is the power of God unto salvation to everyone that BELIEVES.. (Romans 1:16). To “believe” the gospel is to trust in the death, burial and resurrection of Christ as the ALL-sufficient means of our salvation.
The gospel is a message of grace to be received through faith. The gospel is not a set of rituals to perform, a code of laws to be obeyed or a check list of good works to accomplish as a prerequisite for salvation or to maintain salvation.
1 Corinthians 1:21 - For since, in the wisdom of God, the world through wisdom did not know God, it pleased God through the foolishness of the message preached to save those who BELIEVE.
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A deflection implies you were aiming to hit something.
Hitting thin air because you are hitting the wrong person in the wrong way just
declares ignorance and a lack of knowledge.
Many millions of believers have been executed and their executors who thought they were doing a good thing.
"a time is coming when anyone who kills you will think he is offering a service to God."
John 16:2
Evil people always hate piety and service to God and righteousness.
Hitting thin air because you are hitting the wrong person in the wrong way just
declares ignorance and a lack of knowledge.
Many millions of believers have been executed and their executors who thought they were doing a good thing.
"a time is coming when anyone who kills you will think he is offering a service to God."
John 16:2
Evil people always hate piety and service to God and righteousness.