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YourTruthGod

YourTruthGod

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Budman said:
God's Word calls you a liar.

(1 John 1:8)
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You don't understand that scripture. That scripture PROVES your doctrine wrong.

That scripture is John saying to those who claim to be saved that if, they NEVER admitted to having sins, then they were never saved in the first place, because getting saved requires one admit to being a sinner, AND THEN REPENTING OF THOSE SINS.
 
FollowHisSteps

FollowHisSteps

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YourTruthGod said:
I have stopped sinning; and, if I did sin and see it, I OBEY BY REPENTING OF IT.
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Some believe being human is sinful. So it is impossible to stop being human so stopping sinning is a lies to them.

The next question is can someone stop committing sinful acts, as defined in the 10 commandments
And the answer is yes.

Paul described his keeping of the law legalistically faultless.
So these folk lie about the law, lie about our ability to live by it, and lie about faith.

But it is always our calling to walk in the light and be free to share His love, Amen.
 
Budman

Budman

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YourTruthGod said:
You don't understand that scripture. That scripture PROVES your doctrine wrong.

That scripture is John saying to those who claim to be saved that if, they NEVER admitted to having sins, then they were never saved in the first place, because getting saved requires one admit to being a sinner, AND THEN REPENTING OF THOSE SINS.
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That's not what you're claiming. You said you have stopped sinning - that means you have no sin to repent of.

And once again, God's Word says you are a liar.
 
YourTruthGod

YourTruthGod

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Budman said:
You can't claim you have stopped sinning and then say "if I do sin..."

You are chasing your own tail.
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You are speaking against the Holy Bible, the Holy Bible that tells us to stop sinning, and tells us how to do it. The Word of God also knows that we might fail sometimes and how we are to repent of it. We are to work out our salvation. We are to train ourselves.
 
Hevosmies

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YourTruthGod said:
I have stopped sinning;
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Now I know to just throw ya to the ignore trashbin.

HERETIC! LIAR!

1 John 1:8
If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us.

You were quoting all those "truth is not in us" verses from John earlier, but did you skip that one?
 
Budman

Budman

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YourTruthGod said:
You are speaking against the Holy Bible, the Holy Bible that tells us to stop sinning, and tells us how to do it. The Word of God also knows that we might fail sometimes and how we are to repent of it. We are to work out our salvation. We are to train ourselves.
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Yet again, you claimed you have STOPPED sinning. So the very idea that you have to repent of anything is moot.
 
YourTruthGod

YourTruthGod

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FollowHisSteps said:
Some believe being human is sinful. So it is impossible to stop being human so stopping sinning is a lies to them.

The next question is can someone stop committing sinful acts, as defined in the 10 commandments
And the answer is yes.

Paul described his keeping of the law legalistically faultless.
So these folk lie about the law, lie about our ability to live by it, and lie about faith.

But it is always our calling to walk in the light and be free to share His love, Amen.
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We can stop sinning, and it doesn't mean we might not mess up here and there.
 
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TheDivineWatermark

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Budman said:
YourTruthGod said:
I have stopped sinning; and, if I did sin and see it, I OBEY BY REPENTING OF IT.
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Do you understand what a contradiction in terms is?
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:D

I'm pretty sure his intent was not to suggest he has "altogether stopped sinning"/"ceased sinning altogether"... just that he has indeed "stopped" on occasion, at times, in some areas... (or the like).
 
Budman

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TheDivineWatermark said:
:D

I'm pretty sure his intent was not to suggest he has "altogether stopped sinning"/"ceased sinning altogether"... just that he has indeed "stopped" on occasion, at times, in some areas... (or the like).
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Keep reading.

He indeed claims he has stopped sinning.
 
YourTruthGod

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Budman said:
That's not what you're claiming. You said you have stopped sinning - that means you have no sin to repent of.

And once again, God's Word says you are a liar.
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You need to answer the question now.
HAVE YOU STOPPED ANY SIN FOR JESUS.
hahahahaha
You are making it obvious that you have never.
 
Budman

Budman

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YourTruthGod said:
You need to answer the question now.
HAVE YOU STOPPED ANY SIN FOR JESUS.
hahahahaha
You are making it obvious that you have never.
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Have I stopped sinning?

Nope.

Neither have you, nor anyone else.

And if you think you have, you're dreaming and might as well wish for a unicorn.
 
FollowHisSteps

FollowHisSteps

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Budman said:
Almost every post you have written confirms that you are. Now, you are simply straight up lying.
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Hi Bud,

How is it it comes to this? The delusion must be true, and the person, no matter how sincere
must be lying and evil. God bless you, you are just harming yourself more.
 
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