Not By Works

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YourTruthGod

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Studying this morning in Philippians. Phil. :4

"Though I might also have confidence in the flesh. If any other man thinketh that he hath whereof he might trust in the flesh, I more."

The Law, works will not save us. Flesh will not save us. Legalism will not save us.

God, through His Son Jesus Christ is the only way to be saved, kept saved.
We have to have FAITH with good works.
Paul was speaking about himself UNDER THE LAW AND WITHOUT FAITH.
 
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Studying this morning in Philippians. Phil. :4

"Though I might also have confidence in the flesh. If any other man thinketh that he hath whereof he might trust in the flesh, I more."

The Law, works will not save us. Flesh will not save us. Legalism will not save us.

God, through His Son Jesus Christ is the only way to be saved, kept saved.
Amen to that one........the only door -->faith
 
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Amen. Even a single lie attributed to them will send them to the Lake of Fire. (Revelation 21:8)

Thank you Jesus for your precious blood that has washed ALL sins away!
Like I have said numerous times....sin is not the issue......FAITH is the issue and one will NEVER OVERCOME SIN UNLESS BORN FROM ABOVE BY FAITH, at which time your sins (all of them) are nailed to cross (habe been past tense) and the righteeousness of Christ is imputed and you are rendered legally innocent (justified) and sanctified positionally in Christ eternally!!
 

YourTruthGod

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Studying this morning in Philippians. Phil. :4

"Though I might also have confidence in the flesh. If any other man thinketh that he hath whereof he might trust in the flesh, I more."

The Law, works will not save us. Flesh will not save us. Legalism will not save us.

God, through His Son Jesus Christ is the only way to be saved, kept saved.
That scripture proves what I have been saying.

When Paul says 'not of works', he is speaking about the purification works SUCH AS CIRCUMCISION OF THE FLESH.
 

Hevosmies

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YourTruthGod we get it now.

You are saying we need to have faith+works.
You are saying we need to repent of our sins
You are saying not of works means not of purification works.

And now what?
 

YourTruthGod

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Philippians 3

No Confidence in the Flesh

1 Further, my brothers and sisters, rejoice in the Lord! It is no trouble for me to write the same things to you again, and it is a safeguard for you. 2 Watch out for those dogs, those evildoers, those mutilators of the flesh. 3For it is we who are the circumcision, we who serve God by his Spirit, who boast in Christ Jesus, and who put no confidence in the flesh— 4though I myself have reasons for such confidence.

If someone else thinks they have reasons to put confidence in the flesh, I have more:5circumcised on the eighth day, of the people of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, a Hebrew of Hebrews; in regard to the law, a Pharisee; 6as for zeal, persecuting the church; as for righteousness based on the law, faultless.


Excellent scripture to PROVE MORE of what I have been saying.

The 'not of works' is about the purification works of the law like circumcision.
 

YourTruthGod

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YourTruthGod we get it now.

You are saying we need to have faith+works.
You are saying we need to repent of our sins
You are saying not of works means not of purification works.

And now what?
What do you mean and now what?
Someone just tried to prove me wrong about it and the scriptures they gave prove me right.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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God says love IS obeying His commands.
God says the whole law is about loving.
No

God said love is HOW we obey his commands

And he said LOVE FULFILLS the law

Again, I do not know where you get your informtion from, But you were not told right..
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Being saved is salvation. Obedience is love. God doesn't love anyone until they love Him first.
I have given you scriptures many times.
You do not pay attention do you?

Why is it you IGNORE passages which prove you wrong?

Once again,

1 John 4: Beloved, let us love one another, for love is of God; and everyone who loves is born of God and knows God. 8 He who does not love does not know God, for God is love. 9 In this the love of God was manifested toward us, that God has sent His only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through Him. 10 In this is love, not that we loved God, but that He loved us and sent His Son to be the propitiation for our sins. 11 Beloved, if God so loved us, we also ought to love one another.

He goes on and finishes with the verse you have been shown so many times, yet totally ignore

WE LOVE BECAUSE HE FIRST LOVED US.

We can not love God first. If what you say it true, NO ONE WILL EVER BE SAVED
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Like a Pharisee on Steroids.....He loves God enough to get God to love him back.....false alert on that one....totally contrary to the bible.....
How can people not see this bro? I am amazed at how people can see yet not see...
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Even Jesus said, "None good but God".......yet they, in their mind, actually believe they can make the cut by what they do.............which actually makes them more wicked than Hitler because they devalue the work of Christ, call God a liar by their words and belief and trample underfoot the precious blood of the lamb...........
They can not even keep the law..

How do they think they will earn heaven when they are cursed by the law.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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How does a person know if they have been here before and banned? I know if I was ever life time banned I would not try to come back.
Not all bans are lifetime, Some are just a year.

Sadly, If fran was banned, she now has to wait a year again before she can LEGALLY come back. (If she has not been changed to permanent)
 
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eternally-gratefull

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We have to have FAITH with good works.
Paul was speaking about himself UNDER THE LAW AND WITHOUT FAITH.
True Faith Has works. Not because it has too, But because works are a natural byproduct of faith.
Mere belief (dead faith) may appear to do good works. but it can not do good works.. And will most likely eventually be exposed.
 

YourTruthGod

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I am trusting Jesus.

Your trusting YOUR WORKS (IE SELF)

I am trusting what Jesus says will happen if I do what he says to do.

If you TRUSTED JESUS, You would RECIEVE his GRACE GIFT, and praise him by allowing HIM to sanctify you. NOT IN FEAR, but in hope BECAUSE YOU HAVE ETERNAL LIFE, thus you KNOW you can stand boldly on the last day, NOT BECAUSE you were RIGHTEOUS. But because GOD SAVED YOU!

I already gave you the passage, as usual, you ignore it..or twist it to mean something it was never meant to mean
We have to do what Jesus says to do to get saved.
 

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Yes, they were saved. The Bible says all who were there were believers. As I've said many times, God does chastise His children, even to the point of taking them home, but they can never be lost.

At the moment of conversion, one is saved forever. Even if they walk away later. They couldn't go to hell if they tried. If salvation is truly a gift, and grace actually unmerited, this has to be so.
It seems like even lying to the Holy Spirit is allowed in your OSAS group.

Here's what the bible says;

...Then Peter said, “Ananias, how is it that Satan has so filled your heart that you have lied to the Holy Spirit and have kept for yourself some of the money you received for the land? Didn’t it belong to you before it was sold? And after it was sold, wasn’t the money at your disposal? What made you think of doing such a thing? You have not lied to men but to God.” Acts 5:3-4

...I tell you the truth, all the sins and blasphemies of men will be forgiven them. But whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; he is guilty of an eternal sin.”
Mark 3:28-29

...This is especially true of those who follow the corrupt desire of the sinful nature and despise authority. Bold and arrogant, these men are not afraid to slander celestial beings; yet even angels, although they are stronger and more powerful, do not bring slanderous accusations against such beings in the presence of the Lord. But these men blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are like brute beasts, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed, and like beasts they too will perish. 2 Peter 2:10-12

...But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and ALL LIARS—their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.” Revelation 21:8

You have just exposed the true colors of OSAS believers and I see those who agreed with you.

...Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of such things God’s wrath comes on those who are disobedient.Ephesians 5:6

...And do this, understanding the present time. The hour has come for you to wake up from your slumber, because our salvation is nearer now than when we first believed. Romans 13:11