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To tell you the truth, I am not sure what you are asking, and why. May I ask you this (to perhaps clarify some)? Are you asking me this due to my post just [two posts] above yours here, where I was addressing a point made in [member] Argueless's post? If so, I was endeavoring to follow his earlier request to:
--use Scripture only (as he does, he said)
--and, if I must give further explanation, to do it very simply
I believe my post [#95,090, in which I quoted a PORTION of Argueless's post and addressed that portion ONLY] "fitted" that request as much as possible. In what way are you thinking that it did not measure up to his "request"?
Note, I selected not to address his further comment, which contained the following words:
--use Scripture only (as he does, he said)
--and, if I must give further explanation, to do it very simply
I believe my post [#95,090, in which I quoted a PORTION of Argueless's post and addressed that portion ONLY] "fitted" that request as much as possible. In what way are you thinking that it did not measure up to his "request"?
Note, I selected not to address his further comment, which contained the following words:
Oh primary walk is one of shinning the light of love, righteousness and truth.
The ways of the world are always about point scoring and trying to beat someone.
Jesus's ways are about seeing need and providing support and help.
The classic problem is if one side desire slander and abuse it is no them, if one
responds with sacrifice and the other cheek. The reason is we are not defenders
of Gods truth, Gods word stands alone, we just witness to it.
As a sinner saved by grace, I stand as a witness of His work in my life.
Gods witness is all that finally matters because sinful man will always lie, deceive
cause strife and anguish, while claiming they hold the truth against the evil enemy.
Evil doers do not know God, it is the redeemed who walk in His ways, calling upon
Him for their strength who are lifted up, even though they die, yet will they live.
Amen
The ways of the world are always about point scoring and trying to beat someone.
Jesus's ways are about seeing need and providing support and help.
The classic problem is if one side desire slander and abuse it is no them, if one
responds with sacrifice and the other cheek. The reason is we are not defenders
of Gods truth, Gods word stands alone, we just witness to it.
As a sinner saved by grace, I stand as a witness of His work in my life.
Gods witness is all that finally matters because sinful man will always lie, deceive
cause strife and anguish, while claiming they hold the truth against the evil enemy.
Evil doers do not know God, it is the redeemed who walk in His ways, calling upon
Him for their strength who are lifted up, even though they die, yet will they live.
Amen
And do we not obey once we have believed and learned from Jesus...
How can we obey if we do not believe , we can not and do not obey all in one go...
Every day the LORD sanctifies us , sets us apart...Yesterday I may not of fully understood what my Lord was teaching me , so I did not fully obey Him , today I fully obey Him because I now have understanding...
None who follows our LORD would want to disobey Him , thank God for His Mercies and grace that is new each morning , why do you think He gives us new grace and mercy each morning ? because we drain our daily supply , even though we think we are doing O so well...xox...
How can we obey if we do not believe , we can not and do not obey all in one go...
Every day the LORD sanctifies us , sets us apart...Yesterday I may not of fully understood what my Lord was teaching me , so I did not fully obey Him , today I fully obey Him because I now have understanding...
None who follows our LORD would want to disobey Him , thank God for His Mercies and grace that is new each morning , why do you think He gives us new grace and mercy each morning ? because we drain our daily supply , even though we think we are doing O so well...xox...
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Thanks YTG.
I find I sometimes lose my focus because of the cynicism and hard blows given,
which I need to see but take. I used to think people would be friendly and assumed
as such. Now I know sinners speak to harm, as deep as they can. And the more hurt
they are the deeper they will thrust. But in Christ nothing hits home, because we are in
Him secure and safe, kept and protected.
And the reason these people throw so hard and agressively is because they are so
damaged and hurting, they want to inflict this on others, especially those they blame
for this continual pain and sore, for which they have no cure.
So pity these poor folk, trapped, alone grasping at hope, while not having the victory
they desperately aspire to, but daily seem robbed of. And if they are robbed how dare
anyone claim to know the peace of God that passes understanding.
6 Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God.
7 And the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus.
Phil 4:6-7
It is like the very thing one wants the other to receive consumes the giver.
So when we give blessing, honour and praise, that is what fills us.
So God bless you all, for in Christ Jesus we have love and victory through Him Amen.
I find I sometimes lose my focus because of the cynicism and hard blows given,
which I need to see but take. I used to think people would be friendly and assumed
as such. Now I know sinners speak to harm, as deep as they can. And the more hurt
they are the deeper they will thrust. But in Christ nothing hits home, because we are in
Him secure and safe, kept and protected.
And the reason these people throw so hard and agressively is because they are so
damaged and hurting, they want to inflict this on others, especially those they blame
for this continual pain and sore, for which they have no cure.
So pity these poor folk, trapped, alone grasping at hope, while not having the victory
they desperately aspire to, but daily seem robbed of. And if they are robbed how dare
anyone claim to know the peace of God that passes understanding.
6 Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God.
7 And the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus.
Phil 4:6-7
It is like the very thing one wants the other to receive consumes the giver.
So when we give blessing, honour and praise, that is what fills us.
So God bless you all, for in Christ Jesus we have love and victory through Him Amen.
Very well said. 
Where 1 Thessalonians 4:7 says, "For God has not called us TO [G1909] impurity/uncleanness but IN [G1722] sanctification/holiness [G38]," the G1722 ['IN'] (re: the "sanctification/holiness" G38) is a "preposition denoting position and instrumentality, i.e. A relation of rest"... and we can also see the G38 word used in 1 Corinthians 1:30 - https://biblehub.com/text/1_corinthians/1-30.htm , where it says, "But out of Him, you are in Christ Jesus, who has been made unto us wisdom from God, and righteousness and sanctification [G38] and redemption" (this is "positional truth" ['sanctification' positionally] which impacts our "condition" ['sanctification' progressively], or "walk").
Very good post! Thanks for posting!
Where 1 Thessalonians 4:7 says, "For God has not called us TO [G1909] impurity/uncleanness but IN [G1722] sanctification/holiness [G38]," the G1722 ['IN'] (re: the "sanctification/holiness" G38) is a "preposition denoting position and instrumentality, i.e. A relation of rest"... and we can also see the G38 word used in 1 Corinthians 1:30 - https://biblehub.com/text/1_corinthians/1-30.htm , where it says, "But out of Him, you are in Christ Jesus, who has been made unto us wisdom from God, and righteousness and sanctification [G38] and redemption" (this is "positional truth" ['sanctification' positionally] which impacts our "condition" ['sanctification' progressively], or "walk").
Very good post! Thanks for posting!
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I would like to be offensive on occasion, just with certain people though
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I have read this a lot, except it seems somewhat limited.
Turning from wickedness, doing good, having sorrow for sin and the damage done,
believing in the cross for forgiveness of our sins, confession of sins, obedience to Gods will,
cleansing of the heart, sowing to the Spirit, crucifying the evil desires of the flesh.
Now these sentiments are clear in the OT and the NT.
Those who seem to be born churched people, with a nice life, seem to like the change mind idea,
because to be honest, they could pass as believers all their lives more or less.
Those who truly have delved the depths of sin and rebellion, who know the evil that resides there
and how it eats alive the souls of many, have no problems with true repentance because they
literally do not want to go back to the God forsaken hole they used to be in.
So I suspect this diluted, face splash repentance just shows the lack of true letting go these
"believers" have ever indulged in, so all they need is a face splash to pass as ok. God help them
when their secrets are exposed for all to see, and the true extent of their indulgences become
known. On that day nothing will be hidden, and whatever is shameful will be understood leaving
just a shell behind, which everyone thought was a fine gifted orator of God.
Turning from wickedness, doing good, having sorrow for sin and the damage done,
believing in the cross for forgiveness of our sins, confession of sins, obedience to Gods will,
cleansing of the heart, sowing to the Spirit, crucifying the evil desires of the flesh.
Now these sentiments are clear in the OT and the NT.
Those who seem to be born churched people, with a nice life, seem to like the change mind idea,
because to be honest, they could pass as believers all their lives more or less.
Those who truly have delved the depths of sin and rebellion, who know the evil that resides there
and how it eats alive the souls of many, have no problems with true repentance because they
literally do not want to go back to the God forsaken hole they used to be in.
So I suspect this diluted, face splash repentance just shows the lack of true letting go these
"believers" have ever indulged in, so all they need is a face splash to pass as ok. God help them
when their secrets are exposed for all to see, and the true extent of their indulgences become
known. On that day nothing will be hidden, and whatever is shameful will be understood leaving
just a shell behind, which everyone thought was a fine gifted orator of God.
I looked up "repent of sins" (using the words "repent" "sin" which will take you to all forms of each word, where these are used in a verse) and these verses came up (at the Bible Gateway link below). Which verses are you referring to specifically? :
https://www.biblegateway.com/quicksearch/?quicksearch=repent+sin&qs_version=KJV
https://www.biblegateway.com/quicksearch/?quicksearch=repent+sin&qs_version=KJV
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