Why is the end times so important?
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It's very simple for you to claim "not scripture, dispensational assumption." However, there are three time periods mentioned, which you cannot deny, "what you have seen, what is now and what will take place later." I gave you the answers to the meaning of those, but because they do not fit with your belief and the truth regarding this has not been revealed to you, you attempt to discredit them. This is what the deceived and deceiving do. They discredit the truth, because they are fighting for their adopted false teachings. Therefore, it is only assumption as far as you are concerned, but is the truth regarding the word of God.
Talk about assumption, that is really ironic coming from someone who believes that Jesus has already returned to the earth to end the age and has sent out His angels to gather the wicked.
You and others with their false teachings are apart of the problem! However, you and they won't find that out until these events are staring you in face. It makes me wonder if you will even concede to your error after you witness these events literally taking place.
These are the deeper truths of God, which Jesus said the Holy Spirit would reveal (the things yet to come).
The teaching on this issue remains true, regardless of what you think.
Talk about assumption, that is really ironic coming from someone who believes that Jesus has already returned to the earth to end the age and has sent out His angels to gather the wicked.
You and others with their false teachings are apart of the problem! However, you and they won't find that out until these events are staring you in face. It makes me wonder if you will even concede to your error after you witness these events literally taking place.
These are the deeper truths of God, which Jesus said the Holy Spirit would reveal (the things yet to come).
The teaching on this issue remains true, regardless of what you think.
I'm not saying we "have" to go to Leviticus to find out what "proclaim" means, but that in Leviticus we see where His "death" correlated, in what Israel was "to proclaim" (Lev23:2 and entire chpt/context) and that was in ONE of the several feasts (not all); and what we /"ye do proclaim" now is "the Lord's DEATH TILL He come" (I'm not saying that "the Lord's Supper" is a COMMAND, in pointing this out 
And I am not saying that WE are to observe any of Lev23 context, either)
I'm just saying "proclaim" is the same in both contexts (though very distinct things and persons ).
And I am not saying that WE are to observe any of Lev23 context, either)I'm just saying "proclaim" is the same in both contexts (though very distinct things and persons
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In Acts Chapter one it states that the Disciples saw Jesus taken up into heaven and two men dressed in white asked them why they were staring up into heaven. They said that Jesus would return in the same way as he went. To me that is a quite plain statement. Do you think God deliberately inspires these statements so that his church can be confused and misled about these matters and only a chosen few can be let in to the secret? It sounds more Gnostic than Christian to me.
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Jerusalem does not fit the characteristics. And no one is going to mourn her destruction she is not even a sea port so people on the sea will not be able to see her burning
You can’t just go by the same stuff
You have to look at it all
And yes. Babylon has killed many prophets. It was the pagan influence that tore Israel away from god and killed the prophets because she played the harlot with Babylon's gods the true harlot
Jerusalem does not fit the characteristics. And no one is going to mourn her destruction she is not even a sea port so people on the sea will not be able to see her burning
You can’t just go by the same stuff
You have to look at it all
And yes. Babylon has killed many prophets. It was the pagan influence that tore Israel away from god and killed the prophets because she played the harlot with Babylon's gods the true harlot
I"m not a "chosen few". I'm not special at all. The knowledge I have on this topic any Christian can have. It's right there written in the Scripture but Christians have refused to believe it for 2,000 years because they want a physical fulfillment the Bible does not teach. When you call the Full Preterist view "Gnostic" what you are attempting to do is discredit it in your own mind so you don't have to address what the text I presented say.
When you read Acts 1: 9-11 in the Greek it says that the cloud hid Jesus from the disciples eyes and they watched the cloud ascend. Jesus had already disappeared inside it. He did not ride it like a surfboard or something like many Christians seem to believe. The angels said He would return in like manner.
Jesus said He would return in the glory of His Father with the holy angels. How did the Father come in the Old Testament? He came on clouds and not visibly.
Isaiah 19: 1, "Behold, the Lord rides on a swift cloud, And will come into Egypt; The idols of Egypt will totter at His presence, And the heart of Egypt will melt in its midst." This was judgment against Egypt. They did not physically see God. It was spiritual.
Psalm 104: 3-4, "He lays the beams of His upper chambers in the waters, Who makes the clouds His chariot, Who walks on the wings of the wind, Who makes His angels spirits, His ministers a flame of fire." Chariots are war vehicles. Judgment.
Matt 24: 30 mentions Jesus coming on the clouds of heaven. What was that in reference too? Judgment on Jerusalem. Not visible physically but VERY visible spiritually.
I will simply. The bottom line is this: The Scriptures do not support a physical fulfillment of the kingdom of God. They are clear on this. Your own view is contradicting what the Scripture says. You refuse to believe what the Scripture says because it does not fit your physical understanding. You should change your understanding to fit the Scripture and not the other way around like Christians have been doing for 2,000 years. I apologize if I sound harsh in any way. That is not my intention. It is just that humans are not very rational sometimes.
When you read Acts 1: 9-11 in the Greek it says that the cloud hid Jesus from the disciples eyes and they watched the cloud ascend. Jesus had already disappeared inside it. He did not ride it like a surfboard or something like many Christians seem to believe. The angels said He would return in like manner.
Jesus said He would return in the glory of His Father with the holy angels. How did the Father come in the Old Testament? He came on clouds and not visibly.
Isaiah 19: 1, "Behold, the Lord rides on a swift cloud, And will come into Egypt; The idols of Egypt will totter at His presence, And the heart of Egypt will melt in its midst." This was judgment against Egypt. They did not physically see God. It was spiritual.
Psalm 104: 3-4, "He lays the beams of His upper chambers in the waters, Who makes the clouds His chariot, Who walks on the wings of the wind, Who makes His angels spirits, His ministers a flame of fire." Chariots are war vehicles. Judgment.
Matt 24: 30 mentions Jesus coming on the clouds of heaven. What was that in reference too? Judgment on Jerusalem. Not visible physically but VERY visible spiritually.
I will simply. The bottom line is this: The Scriptures do not support a physical fulfillment of the kingdom of God. They are clear on this. Your own view is contradicting what the Scripture says. You refuse to believe what the Scripture says because it does not fit your physical understanding. You should change your understanding to fit the Scripture and not the other way around like Christians have been doing for 2,000 years. I apologize if I sound harsh in any way. That is not my intention. It is just that humans are not very rational sometimes.
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Bears the representation of a harlot (rev 17: 1-2, 15 - 16). It claimed to be christ's bride, but had fallen from its pure purpose and had become a harlot.(please note a harlot is a false wife, or tries to take the place of the wife)
2. a leader in ecclesiastical affairs. (rev 17 : 2. 5). Spiritual fornication in scripture is an adherance to a false religious system.
3. the system is a leader in political affairs (rev 17:3) it is seen to be controlling the beast for which it sits.
4 the system has become very rich and influential (rev 17: 4)
5. The system represents the stage of development of christiondom that was hithertoo unrevieled (rev 17: 5) in that it was called the "mystery"
6. the system has been a great persecutor of the saints. (rev 17: 6)
7. the system is an organised system of worldwide scope (rev 17 : 15)
8. The system will be destroyed by the beast, the head of the roman coalition, so that his supremace may not be threatened (rev 17: 16 - 17
9. The world leaders will mourn for her when they see her burn rev 18: 9
Can someone explain how Jerusalem fits all of these characteristics?
2. a leader in ecclesiastical affairs. (rev 17 : 2. 5). Spiritual fornication in scripture is an adherance to a false religious system.
3. the system is a leader in political affairs (rev 17:3) it is seen to be controlling the beast for which it sits.
4 the system has become very rich and influential (rev 17: 4)
5. The system represents the stage of development of christiondom that was hithertoo unrevieled (rev 17: 5) in that it was called the "mystery"
6. the system has been a great persecutor of the saints. (rev 17: 6)
7. the system is an organised system of worldwide scope (rev 17 : 15)
8. The system will be destroyed by the beast, the head of the roman coalition, so that his supremace may not be threatened (rev 17: 16 - 17
9. The world leaders will mourn for her when they see her burn rev 18: 9
Can someone explain how Jerusalem fits all of these characteristics?
Everything you just wrote here is you denying what the Scripture says. Not me. We both know what the word shortly means. You want to change the word, because it doesn't fit your physical understanding, and make the word meaningless. I accept what the word means. I didn't change its meaning at all. You did.
God does not need the Bible. He wrote it for us. Do a study on time references in the Bible. They are always from our point of view because time does not have much meaning to God (2 Peter 3: 8, Psalm 90: 4).
The verses in Revelation are not the only ones saying Christ is returning in His generation. They are all over the NT.
God does not need the Bible. He wrote it for us. Do a study on time references in the Bible. They are always from our point of view because time does not have much meaning to God (2 Peter 3: 8, Psalm 90: 4).
The verses in Revelation are not the only ones saying Christ is returning in His generation. They are all over the NT.
Ahwatukee was being developed when I was a kid. I was born in Phoenix, and raised in Glendale until I grew up and left home and moved to Kingman in 1982. I lived there until 1992 when I moved to Missouri. I used to work at Mohave Community College.
Symbolic/allegorical meanings have always been used to prop up bad doctrine that came not from scripture, but a person, or an organization. Some system, or amoral act, or source of control has to be formed, instituted, dismissed, etc. It can't be done by going with the traditional and accurate literal meaning of a passage so the way to fix that is use a device under which one can make the verse mean, or not mean whatever they want. People get tired of waiting for Jesus to come back so they ditch the entire concept and say He already came back. Then the rest of the End Times is just an undetermined and unorganized Hot Mess that Preterists can't explain.
Symbolic/allegorical meanings have always been used to prop up bad doctrine that came not from scripture, but a person, or an organization. Some system, or amoral act, or source of control has to be formed, instituted, dismissed, etc. It can't be done by going with the traditional and accurate literal meaning of a passage so the way to fix that is use a device under which one can make the verse mean, or not mean whatever they want. People get tired of waiting for Jesus to come back so they ditch the entire concept and say He already came back. Then the rest of the End Times is just an undetermined and unorganized Hot Mess that Preterists can't explain.
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Why did they kill the prophets?
Because they were whoring themselves off the babylon (pagan worship such as worship of Baal which was fought so hard in the beginning which is what caused them to kill the prophets and anyone who would come in the name of God.
So yes. They, as BAAL worshipers (which was not JUST JEWS, and NOT JUST IN JERUSALEM) killed prophets. This is just one example.)
Because they were whoring themselves off the babylon (pagan worship such as worship of Baal which was fought so hard in the beginning which is what caused them to kill the prophets and anyone who would come in the name of God.
So yes. They, as BAAL worshipers (which was not JUST JEWS, and NOT JUST IN JERUSALEM) killed prophets. This is just one example.)
Do you embrace "Dominion-Theology/Reconstructionism/Theonomy/Kingdom-Now-Theology/etc" (like that of your link)??
I would caution all readers of this thread to avoid this like the plague. Just a friendly tip.
I would caution all readers of this thread to avoid this like the plague.
Just a friendly tip.
You may not agree with writers overall "Dominionist stance", but that is no reason caution readers on here as if you are some sort of authority. Let the reader decide.
I'll give the link again seeing as you edited my post (which is against the rules as some on here have said). If I can figure out how to put the link in mt signature line I will
.https://americanvision.org/3880/jerusalem-mother-of-harlots/