How should a Christian view socialism?

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UnderGrace

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calibob said:
I'm a thinking person like you. Perhaps you can change my mind. You may paraphrase since I don't feel much like reading an encyclopedia.
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I am only speaking to the theoretical side not what is actually happening in the USA or other countries, very different.

The theory of free market economy focus is on a government that does not set or control prices, supply, or demand. The factors are set/driven by the market and by the supply and demand of a product or service

A laissez-faire economy, I think has a focus on the role of the government, where transactions between different companies or people are not subject to tariffs, government subsidies, and enforced monopolies. There is no role for government in this economy.

They do have many similarities I agree, however I think I like the term free market economy, because it speaks to the fact that people are free to exchange good and services, where competition, supply and demand set the price.

Capitalism again similar however more focused on the creation of wealth and the ownership of capital and the means of production. Some state capitalism as a theory is more closely linked to innovation and progress.
 
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jaybird88 said:
the few control everything, the masses have little say in anything. same monster different mask.



our (usa) markets a hardly free, the rich have the government in their pocket and manipulate the markets at will. read about prestin tucker or john delorean. what happened to them is what happens when you try and compete with the wrong people. thats not a free market.
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Yup, not a free market to be sure.
 
calibob

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jaybird88 said:
the few control everything, the masses have little say in anything. same monster different mask.



our (usa) markets a hardly free, the rich have the government in their pocket and manipulate the markets at will. read about prestin tucker or john delorean. what happened to them is what happens when you try and compete with the wrong people. thats not a free market.
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BTW, they were both exonerated and Yes Tucker got the shaft, but DeLorean's car was a turkey. De Lorena's case was way, way different. He tried to make up the short fall through ill gotten gains. He got caught in an illegal sting. He was no threat to G.M. Ford or Chrysler. Be that as it may there no true free market economies in existence today.
 
calibob

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UnderGrace said:
I am only speaking to the theoretical side not what is actually happening in the USA or other countries, very different.

The theory of free market economy focus is on a government that does not set or control prices, supply, or demand. The factors are set/driven by the market and by the supply and demand of a product or service

A laissez-faire economy, I think has a focus on the role of the government, where transactions between different companies or people are not subject to tariffs, government subsidies, and enforced monopolies. There is no role for government in this economy.

They do have many similarities I agree, however I think I like the term free market economy, because it speaks to the fact that people are free to exchange good and services, where competition, supply and demand set the price.

Capitalism again similar however more focused on the creation of wealth and the ownership of capital and the means of production. Some state capitalism as a theory is more closely linked to innovation and progress.
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Yes I agree it sounds better but why are ther no true free market economies in existence today?
 
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calibob said:
Yes I agree it sounds better but why are ther no true free market economies in existence today?
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Not that I know of, however, it cannot be disputed though, that competition and the incentive to innovate has created the most wealth for the most people.
 
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calibob said:
BTW, they were both exonerated and Yes Tucker got the shaft, but DeLorean's car was a turkey. De Lorena's case was way, way different. He tried to make up the short fall through ill gotten gains. He got caught in an illegal sting. He was no threat to G.M. Ford or Chrysler. Be that as it may there no true free market economies in existence today.
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i dont know the details of tucker but have read on delorean. he had never been involved in drugs before and out of nowhere he gets busted for drugs, enough cocain to put you away for life, enough drugs your not gonna get a slap on the wrist, but what happened, all charges were dropped, all he had to do was agree to get out of the auto business. corruption at its finest.
 
calibob

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jaybird88 said:
i dont know the details of tucker but have read on delorean. he had never been involved in drugs before and out of nowhere he gets busted for drugs, enough cocain to put you away for life, enough drugs your not gonna get a slap on the wrist, but what happened, all charges were dropped, all he had to do was agree to get out of the auto business. corruption at its finest.
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His car was as slow as an air cooled super beetle. It was a joke.
 
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calibob said:
His car was as slow as an air cooled super beetle. It was a joke.
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they all are in the beginning. how you gonna build a vett with a pinto budget. had he been given a few years to develop he probably would have made some sweet cars, matter of fact i know he would have, look what they did to him. they were never gonna let that happen.
 
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jaybird88 said:
the limited monarchy of england circa 1100 - 1500 and destroyed by henry 8th who was a greedy murdering piece of garbage.
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Yes......the feudal system works well for the elites and the land owners.
 
calibob

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jaybird88 said:
they all are in the beginning. how you gonna build a vett with a pinto budget. had he been given a few years to develop he probably would have made some sweet cars, matter of fact i know he would have, look what they did to him. they were never gonna let that happen.
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He did build some sweet cars like the Pontiac GTO.
 
BibleloverBill

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And what about the 20 Socialist/Communist/Globalist candidates for the 2020 USA Presidential race?
 
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