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Lol. I wonder who is being spoken about.
Many do hold they are saved and can stay as they are before God. Stating this is reflecting a easy believism
position. Now who aspires to this and who does not is up to them, but it is always helpful to state this.
Sin. Sin is defined in scripture and in our hearts, because God has put His law in our minds and hearts.
But then maybe ocd sin resides also with many, but then probably they have never met the Lord and only
have their over active legalism, and super judgemental approach.
Honesty. Praise God that in Him we are pure, blameless and Holy, without fault.
I remember having a conversation with a very religious man. His thought was I had to accept everything
he said, or I was wrong. You cannot have a discussion with people like this, because it is just a one way
street. God bless you
Many do hold they are saved and can stay as they are before God. Stating this is reflecting a easy believism
position. Now who aspires to this and who does not is up to them, but it is always helpful to state this.
Sin. Sin is defined in scripture and in our hearts, because God has put His law in our minds and hearts.
But then maybe ocd sin resides also with many, but then probably they have never met the Lord and only
have their over active legalism, and super judgemental approach.
Honesty. Praise God that in Him we are pure, blameless and Holy, without fault.
I remember having a conversation with a very religious man. His thought was I had to accept everything
he said, or I was wrong. You cannot have a discussion with people like this, because it is just a one way
street. God bless you
Look.....do not address me with your drivel.....I was not addressing you and what I said is biblical....the word perfected = MATURED and GROWN.....I am sick of your incessant, ridiculous ignorance......do not address me every again unless you can start being HONEST.....
LET the LOVE of GOD be perfected IN YOU.....
But if anyone keeps His word, the love of God has been truly perfected in him. By this we know that we are in Him:
The ROOT
teleioó: to bring to an end, to complete, perfect
Original Word: τελειόω
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: teleioó
Phonetic Spelling: (tel-i-o'-o)
Definition: to bring to an end, to complete, perfect
Usage: (a) as a course, a race, or the like: I complete, finish (b) as of time or prediction: I accomplish, (c) I make perfect; pass: I am perfected.
THE WORD
τετελείωται --->has been perfected VERB
LET the LOVE of GOD be perfected IN YOU.....
But if anyone keeps His word, the love of God has been truly perfected in him. By this we know that we are in Him:
The ROOT
teleioó: to bring to an end, to complete, perfect
Original Word: τελειόω
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: teleioó
Phonetic Spelling: (tel-i-o'-o)
Definition: to bring to an end, to complete, perfect
Usage: (a) as a course, a race, or the like: I complete, finish (b) as of time or prediction: I accomplish, (c) I make perfect; pass: I am perfected.
THE WORD
τετελείωται --->has been perfected VERB
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Cry me a river....and do us both a favor....do not address me again.......and read the whole thread......he is another deceiver, been here under different names and was banned once already.......and YES he has accused me numerous times.......after you go thru ALL posts he has made then come address me....
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God bless you, for I do not know you, or what you stand for, but may His blessing
shine upon you while you go about your daily deeds, may you find love flowing
from you to those you meet, and may you bless them with the fruits of the Spirit,
as He moves to bring about His purposes and as the whole of creation moves
to His Will, Amen.
shine upon you while you go about your daily deeds, may you find love flowing
from you to those you meet, and may you bless them with the fruits of the Spirit,
as He moves to bring about His purposes and as the whole of creation moves
to His Will, Amen.
Nice try.......same modus operandi from before......oh make no mistake....we know you........and what you peddle does not meet the criteria for biblical standards..........especially saying things like the following.....WHY NOT PULL UP A DIRECT QUOTE AND PROVE SOME HAVE SAID THE FOLLOWING
but there are some who believe we should stay as we are compromised and defeated and this is what Jesus expected.
Many do hold they are saved and can stay as they are before God. Stating this is reflecting a easy believism
position
but there are some who believe we should stay as we are compromised and defeated and this is what Jesus expected.
Many do hold they are saved and can stay as they are before God. Stating this is reflecting a easy believism
position
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dcon - the point about making positions clear, is so one declares the boundaries of belief.
Each reader is the only authority on their position, so I can but share my position and that
which I have come across. It is up to the reader to place themselves where they lie.
A clearer way of saying this, is if sin was like a massive pain coming from ones leg, that could
be dealt with, one would not compromise and just say it does not matter, I will live with it.
The sermon on the mount is such a set of ideas, which outline the foundation of our walk
with Jesus. The words are very food for our soul, a light to our path, joy to our hearts.
I just praise God for all He has done in me, and lift His name Higher, Amen.
I notice though my statements about positions some take, it taken to heart by yourself, so
which is true for you? I have not addressed anyone in particular yet you respond to a statement
about "some people believe". You sound like a judgemental censor who would stamp out any
open observations being made, because they would show up something they hold dear but do
not want to declare.
Each reader is the only authority on their position, so I can but share my position and that
which I have come across. It is up to the reader to place themselves where they lie.
A clearer way of saying this, is if sin was like a massive pain coming from ones leg, that could
be dealt with, one would not compromise and just say it does not matter, I will live with it.
The sermon on the mount is such a set of ideas, which outline the foundation of our walk
with Jesus. The words are very food for our soul, a light to our path, joy to our hearts.
I just praise God for all He has done in me, and lift His name Higher, Amen.
I notice though my statements about positions some take, it taken to heart by yourself, so
which is true for you? I have not addressed anyone in particular yet you respond to a statement
about "some people believe". You sound like a judgemental censor who would stamp out any
open observations being made, because they would show up something they hold dear but do
not want to declare.
I am sorry my friend, I have no desire to go on a proof exercise like this.
What I do is notice certain expression of faith and intentions and then realise this is there attitude.
Let me work this through for you. No repentance, no confession of sin, no walking like Jesus on earth,
no righteous walking, sinning daily without change or progress. What does this add up to?
Thought christians are christians who think faith but have no fruit of it.
And how do we become believers, with eternal life, we believe Jesus, no works, no demonstration.
Paul is quite simple about repentance
"I preached that they should repent and turn to God and prove their repentance by their deeds." Act 26:20
I have quoted what repentance means in the biblical sense from a Mosaic perspective.
We are then called by Paul to aim at perfection.
Join with me in suffering for the gospel, by the power of God,
who has saved us and called us to a holy life--not because of anything we have done but because of his own purpose and grace.
2 Tim 8-9
For God did not call us to be impure, but to live a holy life.
1 Thessalonians 4:7
Just as he who called you is holy, so be holy in all you do
for it is written: "Be holy, because I am holy."
1 Peter 1:15-16
Be imitators of God, therefore, as dearly loved children
and live a life of love, just as Christ loved us and gave himself up for us as a fragrant offering and sacrifice to God.
But among you there must not be even a hint of sexual immorality, or of any kind of impurity, or of greed, because these are improper for God's holy people.
Nor should there be obscenity, foolish talk or coarse joking, which are out of place, but rather thanksgiving.
For of this you can be sure: No immoral, impure or greedy person--such a man is an idolater--has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.
Ephesians 5:1-5
Now obviously the above is not responded to by many with Amen.
And that for me says it all.
God bless you
What I do is notice certain expression of faith and intentions and then realise this is there attitude.
Let me work this through for you. No repentance, no confession of sin, no walking like Jesus on earth,
no righteous walking, sinning daily without change or progress. What does this add up to?
Thought christians are christians who think faith but have no fruit of it.
And how do we become believers, with eternal life, we believe Jesus, no works, no demonstration.
Paul is quite simple about repentance
"I preached that they should repent and turn to God and prove their repentance by their deeds." Act 26:20
I have quoted what repentance means in the biblical sense from a Mosaic perspective.
We are then called by Paul to aim at perfection.
Join with me in suffering for the gospel, by the power of God,
who has saved us and called us to a holy life--not because of anything we have done but because of his own purpose and grace.
2 Tim 8-9
For God did not call us to be impure, but to live a holy life.
1 Thessalonians 4:7
Just as he who called you is holy, so be holy in all you do
for it is written: "Be holy, because I am holy."
1 Peter 1:15-16
Be imitators of God, therefore, as dearly loved children
and live a life of love, just as Christ loved us and gave himself up for us as a fragrant offering and sacrifice to God.
But among you there must not be even a hint of sexual immorality, or of any kind of impurity, or of greed, because these are improper for God's holy people.
Nor should there be obscenity, foolish talk or coarse joking, which are out of place, but rather thanksgiving.
For of this you can be sure: No immoral, impure or greedy person--such a man is an idolater--has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.
Ephesians 5:1-5
Now obviously the above is not responded to by many with Amen.
And that for me says it all.
God bless you
Hi Rose,
You would think that, except there are some from various positions of faith,
who claim to know Jesus but do behave like this.
And yes I would conclude probably they do not know Jesus or have the Holy Spirit,
but I am always very reluctant to say as much.
I do not like judging anyone because it does not help them or me. I desire that
people might discover Jesus and listen to Him because they have come to wonder
at this man of love.
And to many here, I do wonder at their hurts and pains that drive the animosity
that flows with anger, because the source is only from them, and no one else.
God bless you
You would think that, except there are some from various positions of faith,
who claim to know Jesus but do behave like this.
And yes I would conclude probably they do not know Jesus or have the Holy Spirit,
but I am always very reluctant to say as much.
I do not like judging anyone because it does not help them or me. I desire that
people might discover Jesus and listen to Him because they have come to wonder
at this man of love.
And to many here, I do wonder at their hurts and pains that drive the animosity
that flows with anger, because the source is only from them, and no one else.
God bless you
I should flip this statement into its opposite.
As past sinners, now washed and purified saints, can we walk righteously, literally acceptable
to God, because of what Christ has done in our hearts and as we dwell, have fellowship and
communion with God and have the Holy Spirit dwelling within us?
Is coming to Christ fulfilling the FHA righteousness, Faith Heart Action?
Now if walking in Christ is yes to the two questions above then amen.
If the answer is no, and God will just make us like Jesus at the resurrection, with rewards
between now on and then on whatever progress we have made, is this not compromise
and defeat is ok?
Easy believism or I get faith without change, and I am eternally saved, and no one can
criticise my walk or lifestyle no matter how sinful, is ok, then this is the place you end
up.
Now I am happy to say I can be wrong, but this appears to not be an unfair summary
of where people are.
The problem with compromise, is there is no way back. Which sin is not worthy of
rejecting and staying away from because of it destructive nature?
I am saved and going to heaven, so what if I live like a prostitute?
As past sinners, now washed and purified saints, can we walk righteously, literally acceptable
to God, because of what Christ has done in our hearts and as we dwell, have fellowship and
communion with God and have the Holy Spirit dwelling within us?
Is coming to Christ fulfilling the FHA righteousness, Faith Heart Action?
Now if walking in Christ is yes to the two questions above then amen.
If the answer is no, and God will just make us like Jesus at the resurrection, with rewards
between now on and then on whatever progress we have made, is this not compromise
and defeat is ok?
Easy believism or I get faith without change, and I am eternally saved, and no one can
criticise my walk or lifestyle no matter how sinful, is ok, then this is the place you end
up.
Now I am happy to say I can be wrong, but this appears to not be an unfair summary
of where people are.
The problem with compromise, is there is no way back. Which sin is not worthy of
rejecting and staying away from because of it destructive nature?
I am saved and going to heaven, so what if I live like a prostitute?
dcon - the point about making positions clear, is so one declares the boundaries of belief.
Each reader is the only authority on their position, so I can but share my position and that
which I have come across. It is up to the reader to place themselves where they lie.
A clearer way of saying this, is if sin was like a massive pain coming from ones leg, that could
be dealt with, one would not compromise and just say it does not matter, I will live with it.
The sermon on the mount is such a set of ideas, which outline the foundation of our walk
with Jesus. The words are very food for our soul, a light to our path, joy to our hearts.
I just praise God for all He has done in me, and lift His name Higher, Amen.
I notice though my statements about positions some take, it taken to heart by yourself, so
which is true for you? I have not addressed anyone in particular yet you respond to a statement
about "some people believe". You sound like a judgemental censor who would stamp out any
open observations being made, because they would show up something they hold dear but do
not want to declare.
Each reader is the only authority on their position, so I can but share my position and that
which I have come across. It is up to the reader to place themselves where they lie.
A clearer way of saying this, is if sin was like a massive pain coming from ones leg, that could
be dealt with, one would not compromise and just say it does not matter, I will live with it.
The sermon on the mount is such a set of ideas, which outline the foundation of our walk
with Jesus. The words are very food for our soul, a light to our path, joy to our hearts.
I just praise God for all He has done in me, and lift His name Higher, Amen.
I notice though my statements about positions some take, it taken to heart by yourself, so
which is true for you? I have not addressed anyone in particular yet you respond to a statement
about "some people believe". You sound like a judgemental censor who would stamp out any
open observations being made, because they would show up something they hold dear but do
not want to declare.
Exactly, because you KNOW you will not find that drivel in this thread...more proof that you are dishonest with the facts and just peddling some make believe false drivel...
For the reader.....FollowHisSteps is dishonest, he does not post facts but rather false accusations that he builds a false theology upon.....
For the reader.....FollowHisSteps is dishonest, he does not post facts but rather false accusations that he builds a false theology upon.....
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No one states this or believes this crap PETER......how about change the last line......applicable to YOU.....I can lie and falsely accuse in my Phariseeical religion while claiming those that believe in eternal security believe the false drivel I post...... <----THIS is exactly what you are doing and saying PETER.....
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Hi dcon,
You are showing condemnation "garbage" "zero integrity man"
Do you have a heart in Christ? Does it not hurt you to say such
false things without any regard to what you are saying and how
personal you become?
I have discussed many things with many people, and it always comes
down to a choice. If the argument is too strong one has to shift or
stay deluded, but always knowing it is all empty.
I know to drag you out of your shell, takes something, so at least there
is some hope for you. I love FHA, faith, heart, action, because this is
Gods way. So I commend His road, His victory and His overcoming,
Amen.
You are showing condemnation "garbage" "zero integrity man"
Do you have a heart in Christ? Does it not hurt you to say such
false things without any regard to what you are saying and how
personal you become?
I have discussed many things with many people, and it always comes
down to a choice. If the argument is too strong one has to shift or
stay deluded, but always knowing it is all empty.
I know to drag you out of your shell, takes something, so at least there
is some hope for you. I love FHA, faith, heart, action, because this is
Gods way. So I commend His road, His victory and His overcoming,
Amen.