Whose faith is it that saves?I would rather put the spiritual thought behind a post rather than emphasizing the flesh.
I would rather say,without being reborn there are no signs.
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Jesus said to the woman, "Your faith has saved you; go in peace."
but faith was before salvation - in this case healing
so healing means that faith put into activity God's power in this case through Jesus
The thing about faith and salvation. Their is the faith of Jesus. There is the spiritual faith of a born again child of God that comes in the form of a fruit of the Holy Spirit. There is the faith of the natural man of worldly things. Salvation, according to the Greek translation, means "a deliverance" and the born again child of God is delivered eternally and also delivered from many things of this world as he lives his life here on earth. This happens every time he repents and God delivers (saves) him,. He has already been delivered eternally, but God delivers him here in time when he repents of being disobedient at times.
Wrong! We are the ones who need to believe in the Lord Jesus Christ for salvation. Unbelievers are NOT saved.
And they said, Believe on (have faith in) the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house. (Act 16:31)
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart (your heart) that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. (Rom 10:9)
Yes, it was the woman's faith that saved her, not the faith of Jesus as some are saying.
salvation is death to sin in crucification of old self
till it not crucified no salvation from sins
after this rebirth and clothing yourself with Christ in new self
this is spiritual baptism and is going till accomplished properly
in case of saying - salvation by faith of Jesus - it means the Faith of Jesus should be bestowed into your heart by the Holy spirit
the same Faith which was in Jesus
but not by His Faith - apostle Peter could heal somebody at the Temple only when has seen faith in that one who had believed to get something from God
and Jesus could not do many miracles because of their unbelief
always something happens in you only by your faith
without your faith can be healing happened if your mother father had asked -by their faith happened to be miracles for their children
Without the grace given from GOD through the faith of JESUS how would you receive eternal life/salvation?
Remember JESUS said YOUR faith has healed you.Was JESUS talking about “your faith”as HIS faith because IMO,a man only has 5sense knowledg,things you see,touch,hear smell or feel.A man Is carnal,but where we are weak HE IS strong.
IMO the word faith back In those days meant the faith that a human being has based on the 5 senses.
Are you talking about renewing the mind when you say GOD saves the born again man every time he repents.
What If the man doesn’t repent by saying the words I repent.
What If the man just tells GOD that he Is sorry for doing this or that ,that wasn’t your will,.I mean If he doesn’t use words will GOD look at his heart are does the man have to say forgive me again again by saying the words?
Faith is to believe in the unknown. If we can see, hear, touch etc. then we know it to be true through our 5 senses. That is not faith. Faith is to believe in what we cannot see. We cannot see or touch God, but we believe in Him. That is faith.
I like your post but could you explain a little more what you mean by we are baptized by the HOLY GHOST and this continues until accomplished properly?
I was thinking that you are talking about renewing the mind and receiving Grace through faith when It comes to the process/progressive sanctification.
We receive Grace through faith for salvation AND progressive sanctification.
all epistles of Paul are about this - to die with Him and resurrection with Him
nobody connected to Him if not died to sin §no connection n His death
nobody connected to Him in likeness of resurrection of His if not walking in Him
this baptism is entrance to Christ
but nobody entered if two signs are not present- stopped sinning and have had possibility see where Jesus at the right hand of God
this baptism is to get the wrings of fiancée
If you were to go out to your car and get In the car and you reached Into your pocket to get your keys,you used 5 sense knowledge to feel your keys and any other 5 sense knowledge needed to do everything BUT when you got In your car you didn't see the engine turn over but you still believed the car would start,well that's a human form of faith.
People In the world use their senses all the time to get something that they have not seen yet..
Also JESUS said "YOUR" faith has healed you,would man need JESUS to take our place If our own faith could save us.
The blind man believed Jesus could, would, and was able to heal him.
The Blind Man had faith in Jesus, and because HE believed in Jesus, the blind man was healed.
John 3:16 - For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
John 6:47 - Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.
Acts 16:31 - And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.
We are the believers, it is us who need to have faith in Him.