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memyselfi

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I just listened to my President in Green Bay, WI....

The whole point of on-line is debate....

To me he is the GREATEST PRESIDENT....

Can you convince me he isn't?
 
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SpoonJuly

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Seems your definition of greatest must be different from mine.
By my definition, there have been few great presidents and he does not meet that level.
I also realize that once a person's mind is made up so as to call a person the greatest, it is a waste of time to try and change it.
 
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jaybird88

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trump is a casino owner, casinos came from organized crime.
he doesnt pay tax, he thinks honest working folks are idiots and they should be the ones that pay all the tax, do all the work, risk their lives fighting wars and jumping into burning buildings.
he comes from a life of privilege and has never done an honest days work.
i could keep going but do i really need to?
 

Odelschwanck

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I only remember 3 other presidents and I can't say they were necessarily better so no.
 

cobalt1959

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trump is a casino owner, casinos came from organized crime.
he doesnt pay tax, he thinks honest working folks are idiots and they should be the ones that pay all the tax, do all the work, risk their lives fighting wars and jumping into burning buildings.
he comes from a life of privilege and has never done an honest days work.
i could keep going but do i really need to?
And you think abortion is perfectly fine, so what's your point? You are no morally better than Trump.

The statement that he does not pay taxes is ludicrous. If that were true the Liberals would already have his head on a post. I'm not completely convinced he cares about the middle class the way he says he does, but it is obvious that he does not feel that the middle class requires constant punishment like the DNC does. He obviously has a great deal of respect for our military when the former president had open contempt for the military. Is Trump a "great" president? I don't think so, but he is not the evil monster that the Left portrait him as, simply because their fast-track to a Socialist Utopia got postponed for 8 years. The only thing that has actually changed is that the country has a more positive attitude now, something else that drives Liberals crazy because it is no longer fashionable to blame everything on racism and people who are too "rich." Strange, because that is exactly what you do above with Trump. He can't be a good leader because he comes from "privilege." It is a person's moral character that either aids or hinders them in regards to leadership abilities, not their monetary level.
 
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jaybird88

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And you think abortion is perfectly fine, so what's your point? You are no morally better than Trump.
??? i never said abortion was perfectly fine, there is no reason to bear false witness.

The statement that he does not pay taxes is ludicrous. If that were true the Liberals would already have his head on a post. I'm not completely convinced he cares about the middle class the way he says he does, but it is obvious that he does not feel that the middle class requires constant punishment like the DNC does. He obviously has a great deal of respect for our military when the former president had open contempt for the military. Is Trump a "great" president? I don't think so, but he is not the evil monster that the Left portrait him as, simply because their fast-track to a Socialist Utopia got postponed for 8 years. The only thing that has actually changed is that the country has a more positive attitude now, something else that drives Liberals crazy because it is no longer fashionable to blame everything on racism and people who are too "rich." Strange, because that is exactly what you do above with Trump. He can't be a good leader because he comes from "privilege." It is a person's moral character that either aids or hinders them in regards to leadership abilities, not their monetary level.
then why does he hide his tax statements?
of course he loves the military, they are the ones that clear out the poorest people in the poorest countries to make way for new US industry, the soldiers die for it, they just dont benefit from it.

i have to admit i am a bit of a bigot when it comes to the wealthy, i have little respect for those that never did an honest days work dodge tax, dodge fighting in wars that they start and view the common people as untrustworthy and unfit to rule because they were not born into the proper family.
 
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SpoonJuly

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??? i never said abortion was perfectly fine, there is no reason to bear false witness.




i have to admit i am a bit of a bigot when it comes to the wealthy, i have little respect for those that never did an honest days work dodge tax, dodge fighting in wars that they start and view the common people as untrustworthy and unfit to rule because they were not born into the proper family.
Can I use that statement? It is a great description of those left wing Democrats now in Washington.
Actually, a great description of all politicians in Washington.
 
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jaybird88

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Can I use that statement? It is a great description of those left wing Democrats now in Washington.
Actually, a great description of all politicians in Washington.
you can use it all you like.
"the common people are untrustworthy" is James Madison
"the ruling class must be born into the proper family" is John Jay

i may have got them flipped flopped but both are founding fathers.
 

memyselfi

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Why is Trump a great President: because of what he has done for Israel, his support and moving the American Embassy to Jerusalem. He is fighting for the right to life and is against children already born murdered by the wish of the mother (any Christian that thinks that is okay and does not want a president pro-life and now just a murder, because the baby is born alive, is not a Christian in my opinion …. Aren't you glad that is between you and G-d and people cannot judge if you are saved or not because I would send you to Hell as unsaved!?!)…. Then as an afterthought is the conservatives he has put on the Supreme Court....

The above makes him great but the "cherry on top": I am one of those middle class, I was poverty with Obama, but I bring home more money now because of the relief President Trump has given my company!

G-d WILL NEVER BLESS WHAT HE HAS CURSED! How can any Christian expect G-d to bless America if we have a president that is pro-murder or anti-Israel!?!
 

memyselfi

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??? i never said abortion was perfectly fine, there is no reason to bear false witness.



then why does he hide his tax statements?
of course he loves the military, they are the ones that clear out the poorest people in the poorest countries to make way for new US industry, the soldiers die for it, they just dont benefit from it.

i have to admit i am a bit of a bigot when it comes to the wealthy, i have little respect for those that never did an honest days work dodge tax, dodge fighting in wars that they start and view the common people as untrustworthy and unfit to rule because they were not born into the proper family.

Post your tax return on line so all of here can see!!!!

You legally do not have to do it, but SHOW ME AND THE REST OF CHRISTIAN CHANT.... I can than make sure all social media gets them! Lest see if "the kettle is calling the pot black"....
 

gb9

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we do not need to start using the I r s as a weapon against political opposition . that is a pandora's box, as in Obama using the I r s to slow walk tea party and faith- based organizations getting their finances in order.
 
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Susanna

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Post your tax return on line so all of here can see!!!!

You legally do not have to do it, but SHOW ME AND THE REST OF CHRISTIAN CHANT.... I can than make sure all social media gets them! Lest see if "the kettle is calling the pot black"....
He’s not the one holding the most important public position in America, but Trump is, so why are you making a moot point like that?
 
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jaybird88

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Post your tax return on line so all of here can see!!!!

You legally do not have to do it, but SHOW ME AND THE REST OF CHRISTIAN CHANT.... I can than make sure all social media gets them! Lest see if "the kettle is calling the pot black"....
no way Jose! I wish I could help you but unfortunately I do a lot of business with those kind of people that could get me in trouble. Plus I own many tax shelters disguised as residential maintenance companies. I also would rather people not know about the slave labor wages that I pay to all my workers, but their just dumb blue collar people so what do they know. Then there is the casino skimming, political pay offs, mafia pay offs as well as a long history of construction bid rigging and so much more.

Yeah I think it would be much better if I didnt provide tax and income statements as I would much rather keep all this hidden. Wow! Its a good thing I dont hold any public office as everyone would see just what kind of crook I really am.
 
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jaybird88

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He’s not the one holding the most important public position in America, but Trump is, so why are you making a moot point like that?
Clinton and Bush were some of the biggest crooks ever, but at least they provided tax statements.
 
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SpoonJuly

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Clinton and Bush were some of the biggest crooks ever, but at least they provided tax statements.
You always seem ready to judge others as evil rich crooks.
Truth is, all you know about any of these people is what you read and choose to believe.
I am not a fan of Trump. Did not vote for him or Hillary.
But he was elected by the system our forefathers designed that has elected every president.
He will be here until Jan. 2020 and maybe 2024, and your constant ranting ain't going to change it.

And as I said before, no one is going to change their mind about Trump.
 
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jaybird88

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You always seem ready to judge others as evil rich crooks.
Truth is, all you know about any of these people is what you read and choose to believe.
i would much rather choose to read and learn about our leaders than know nothing, remain ignorant and scratch my head wondering why things are in such bad shape.

I am not a fan of Trump. Did not vote for him or Hillary.
But he was elected by the system our forefathers designed that has elected every president.
He will be here until Jan. 2020 and maybe 2024, and your constant ranting ain't going to change it.

And as I said before, no one is going to change their mind about Trump.
i like voicing my opinion, would it be better for everyone to just sit down and shut up when it comes to our leaders being involved in wrong doing?
 
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SpoonJuly

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i would much rather choose to read and learn about our leaders than know nothing, remain ignorant and scratch my head wondering why things are in such bad shape.



i like voicing my opinion, would it be better for everyone to just sit down and shut up when it comes to our leaders being involved in wrong doing?
Opinions are great. We all got them.
But, no wrong doing has been proven.
In my opinion, every elected person in DC is guilty of some wrong doing.
Where we get in trouble is when we voice our opinion as fact.
When we do that we must expect to be called on it.

Things are in such bad shape because the voters are ignorant of who they vote for.
If the Russians really influence voters to vote a certain way------
I my opinion, that person is not qualified to vote and should stay home.
 

memyselfi

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He’s not the one holding the most important public position in America, but Trump is, so why are you making a moot point like that?
Thank you for the perfect set up to this!..... BIG HUG AND KISS!!!!!! (on the cheek)

No, it is not mute... President Trump is a citizen of the U.S.A. if Congress is given the power to make him make his taxes public, they are given the power to make yours public! They are trying to in act a power they do not have!!!
 
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jaybird88

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Thank you for the perfect set up to this!..... BIG HUG AND KISS!!!!!! (on the cheek)

No, it is not mute... President Trump is a citizen of the U.S.A. if Congress is given the power to make him make his taxes public, they are given the power to make yours public! They are trying to in act a power they do not have!!!
its not about invading the privacy of every citizen its about those in public office. elected public officials have always put this info up on the front end, thats how it has always been, the people want it this way because they want to be sure their state leaders have nothing shady to hide. this is common sense stuff.
 

memyselfi

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its not about invading the privacy of every citizen its about those in public office. elected public officials have always put this info up on the front end, that's how it has always been, the people want it this way because they want to be sure their state leaders have nothing shady to hide. this is common sense stuff.
What is common sense stuff is that We The People, for now, are the ONES with POWER in this country!
That is what makes the U.S.A. SO GREAT....
Please explain to me why you want congress to be able to do something illegal? Where does it stop?
If you want political officials' to have to legally release their taxes, call your congressman, request to get rid of the IRS, they are the ones with power over taxes....

Lets protect America not its political parties!?!