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theanointedwinner

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I recommend a change in thread title from "never believe" into, "one day I will eventually believe, help me believe" thread
 

theanointedwinner

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For crucifixion, consider 200 lb pressure on three big nails against the bone

Riven, try to walk on high heels on cobble stones, that might help you see what that's like
 

Magenta

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I'm sure many of us have this kind of fantasy sometimes

the nonbeliever: Hi evangelist, thanks for telling me about the bible, but I don’t believe …
God: Hello, I'm convicting you of your sin right now, listen to your heart
the nonbeliever: I have to be honest about this, I do admit feeling conviction of some kind
God: you don't want to reject the gospel, please take the gospel seriously, consider the possibility of how serious this is
the nonbeliever: evangelist, you asked if I want to accept the gospel, yes, let's pray the prayer of salvation

^but too bad this is not reality, or at least it only happen in rare cases
It happens when people are ready to accept Truth :D
 

theanointedwinner

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It happens when people are ready to accept Truth:D
I can see the benefit of Phil 4:8

It as if I actually believe that it can happen and I believe that it's not too far away, as we see the possibility of riven praying with humble earnesty for Truth

Keeping focus on Jesus, does help
 

theanointedwinner

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The explanation undergrace is looking for, I have listed out for you, just like how you fail to recognize the answer doesn't mean that it is not the answer, same with Jesus
 
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I can give quite scary descriptions of hell, @calibob can testify to that
How can anyone know or see vision's of hell? It doesn't even exist now, and no Jesus didn't descend to hell for 3 day's. (It says he went to the spirit's in prison)
 
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The explanation undergrace is looking for, I have listed out for you, just like how you fail to recognize the answer doesn't mean that it is not the answer, same with Jesus
You guys really should stop projecting your prayers into outer space, you're giving our alien friends a mighty big headache.
 
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Is it I keep looking and cannot find it?
Well why do other people believe in it? If it's not there as you say.

If they could be wrong about that belief they trust with their whole faith, then who knows, you might be wrong about some thing's you believe too.
 
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I think that if you set out to disprove an event, for instance the "Resurrection" and look at those who have researched this, both "for" and "against" you will be able to reach an objective non biased conclusion.

One always has to research both sides of an argument/supposition/premise to come to a conclusion.

I find it interesting that there are some agnostics/ atheists who agree the tomb was empty based on evidence yet they still choose to not believe.

I think you raise a valid point there needs to be a point where you yourself has to search it out and not just rely on what others state.
 

theanointedwinner

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Riven, you do realize that we have many friends in high places, right?
 
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Well why do other people believe in it? If it's not there as you say.

If they could be wrong about that belief they trust with their whole faith, then who knows, you might be wrong about some thing's you believe too.
You know what Riven, I adopted doctrine years ago without really doing the research myself, I know very little for sure, but the doctrines I spent years researching I am pretty sure I am on solid ground.

I can tell you one thing I am sure of that is that God is Love.
 

theanointedwinner

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You know what Riven, I adopted doctrine years ago without really doing the research myself, I know very little for sure, but the doctrines I spent years researching I am pretty sure I am on solid ground.

I can tell you one thing I am sure of that is that God is Love.
Grace :love:
 
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You guys really should stop projecting your prayers into outer space, you're giving our alien friends a mighty big headache.
This does not help the conversation... btw