Mystery Babylon

[Nebuchadnezzer]

The United States of America = the beast “now is not” [Rev 17:8]
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Beast = STATE
False Prophet = CHURCH

Since the legalization and controlling of Chrisitanity by the Roman Empire around 325AD you have had STATE and CHURCH. This strategy of Satan's was disrupted by the Protestant Reformation and the formation of the greatest country this world has ever seen: The United States of America.

USA gave us separation of CHURCH and STATE. Aka the beast “now is not”.
The formation, the extraordinary growth, and dominance of the United States as #1 superpower keeps the beast as not.

Each time the beast has tried to rise again i.e. Germany (Hitler), the USSR (Stalin)... but each time the beast was put down – put down by the USA. During this time (1800s – 2000s) the false Prophet (Roman Church) changed its tactics, it stopped the inquisition, it created the vatican, became very rich, and spread itself across the globe (across many waters). During this time The Roman Church morphed into the Whore of Babylon. At our current time the whore (Roman Church) is riding on the beast that “now is not”.

But the USA is and has been in decline and China continues its rise. We see that China epitomizes STATE and CHURCH (aka government controlled Christianity, which is no Christianity at all). We see the Roman Church supporting the immigrant invasion (attack) of USA. We see the Roman Church (false prophet) beginning to cozy with China (beast)... Will the continual rise of China and the decline of the USA (and by default western democracy) be the beast that "yet will come" [Rev 17:8]?

We live in a time where the beast "now is not” [Rev 17:8]. How blessed we are, but we do not realize!

Now this is a work in progress.

Rev 17:8 says,
"The beast, which you saw, once was, now is not, and yet will come up out of the Abyss and go to its destruction.

Rev 17:8 to me sounds the same as Rev 20:3

Rev 20:3 says,
He threw him into the Abyss, and locked and sealed it over him, to keep him from deceiving the nations anymore until the thousand years were ended. After that, he must be set free for a short time.

If Rev 17:8 and 20:3 are the same thing then my analysis of USA could be off. But Roman Church as the Whore of Babylon would still be correct.

If Rev 17:8 and 20:3 are same thing then here is alternative analsys of Rev 17: 10
They are also seven kings. Five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet come; but when he does come, he must remain for only a little while.

king 1 = 1st beast of Daniel (Babylonian empire)
king 2 = 2nd beast of Daniel (Medo-Persian Empire)
king 3 = 3rd beast of Daniel (Greek Empire)
king 4 = 4th beast of Daniel (Roman Republic)
king 5 = 1st beast of revelation (Roman Empire) --> rise of the man of lawlessness
king 6 = 2nd beast of revelation (Medieval Roman Church) --> continuation of the man of lawlessness
king 7= whore of babylon (Modern-Era Roman Church) --> continuation of the man of lawlessness

Rev 17:11 says,
The beast who once was, and now is not, is an eighth king. He belongs to the seven and is going to his destruction.

King 8 = satan's last deception of the nations and his defeat Rev 20:7-10

 

[Nebuchadnezzer]

I do enjoy a good fictional read!

I do too sometimes. Sorry for my bloviating... I'm just trying to figure it out.

 

[iamsoandso]

The United States of America = the beast “now is not” [Rev 17:8]
------------------------------------------
Beast = STATE
False Prophet = CHURCH

Since the legalization and controlling of Chrisitanity by the Roman Empire around 325AD you have had STATE and CHURCH. This strategy of Satan's was disrupted by the Protestant Reformation and the formation of the greatest country this world has ever seen: The United States of America.

USA gave us separation of CHURCH and STATE. Aka the beast “now is not”.
The formation, the extraordinary growth, and dominance of the United States as #1 superpower keeps the beast as not.

Each time the beast has tried to rise again i.e. Germany (Hitler), the USSR (Stalin)... but each time the beast was put down – put down by the USA. During this time (1800s – 2000s) the false Prophet (Roman Church) changed its tactics, it stopped the inquisition, it created the vatican, became very rich, and spread itself across the globe (across many waters). During this time The Roman Church morphed into the Whore of Babylon. At our current time the whore (Roman Church) is riding on the beast that “now is not”.

But the USA is and has been in decline and China continues its rise. We see that China epitomizes STATE and CHURCH (aka government controlled Christianity, which is no Christianity at all). We see the Roman Church supporting the immigrant invasion (attack) of USA. We see the Roman Church (false prophet) beginning to cozy with China (beast)... Will the continual rise of China and the decline of the USA (and by default western democracy) be the beast that "yet will come" [Rev 17:8]?

We live in a time where the beast "now is not” [Rev 17:8]. How blessed we are, but we do not realize!

The beast that was not at the time Revelation 17:8 was written had received it's deadly wound in ad70 and was in the pit at that time. About as many Jews live in the US as in Israel and it is clear that the military forces of the US as well could be considered another branch of the Israeli military in fact their main defense. Now not that I am against the Israel God will restore the kingdom to but,, the one the earth said let us make an image of that God removed because it will surly be in the way of the one God restores the kingdom to.

 

[SimpleGardner]

The United States of America = the beast “now is not” [Rev 17:8]
------------------------------------------
Beast = STATE
False Prophet = CHURCH

Since the legalization and controlling of Chrisitanity by the Roman Empire around 325AD you have had STATE and CHURCH. This strategy of Satan's was disrupted by the Protestant Reformation and the formation of the greatest country this world has ever seen: The United States of America.

USA gave us separation of CHURCH and STATE. Aka the beast “now is not”.
The formation, the extraordinary growth, and dominance of the United States as #1 superpower keeps the beast as not.

Each time the beast has tried to rise again i.e. Germany (Hitler), the USSR (Stalin)... but each time the beast was put down – put down by the USA. During this time (1800s – 2000s) the false Prophet (Roman Church) changed its tactics, it stopped the inquisition, it created the vatican, became very rich, and spread itself across the globe (across many waters). During this time The Roman Church morphed into the Whore of Babylon. At our current time the whore (Roman Church) is riding on the beast that “now is not”.

But the USA is and has been in decline and China continues its rise. We see that China epitomizes STATE and CHURCH (aka government controlled Christianity, which is no Christianity at all). We see the Roman Church supporting the immigrant invasion (attack) of USA. We see the Roman Church (false prophet) beginning to cozy with China (beast)... Will the continual rise of China and the decline of the USA (and by default western democracy) be the beast that "yet will come" [Rev 17:8]?

We live in a time where the beast "now is not” [Rev 17:8]. How blessed we are, but we do not realize!

Interesting observation. Is it possible that just the opposite is true? I'm thinking of the rule of Israel during the days of David and Solomon when the Laws of God and the State were united.

I certainly recognize the horrors of uniting the State and the Babylonian order. It is interesting to consider that Nebuchadnezzar staffed many of Babylons offices with Kingdom of Heaven minded men like Daniel, Hananiah, Mishael, and Azariah. Probably indicative of why the dream figure had a head of Gold. Not gold any more as the respect of Gods Kingdom principals have been replaced with Satanic principals. I think of the the Church of Rome/ The Papacy and how corrupt the entire organization is and how this influence has infiltrated all of the States since 325. I think it would be interesting to find out how many Catholics are within the halls of State power both elected and bureaucrats.

Perhaps the view we should have is that the State must be subject to the Laws of God which are maintained by the "priesthood". Essentially the priesthood were the directors and guardians of the State in the times of Solomon and David.


Thinking further on this theme, perhaps the USA has seemed above the fray due to the severance of the State from the latter day evil influences from the prevailing moral authority; the morally deminished iron model of the Babylonian doctrinal order or more appropriately "chaos". So while the USA was initially protected from overwhelming Babylonian influence and Papal jurisdiction which opened the opportunities for Christian men to prevail in their influence, those days are behind us. Obviously, we were subdued in the 1800's and overwhelmed in the early 1900's with the MYSTERY BABYLON takeover.

 

[Lanolin]

Arent global/multinational corporations and conglomerates now 'the beast'?
I dont think its anything to do with religious system as such, it would be entirely secular, with money being worshipped as God. Didnt Jesus warn about loving money, or God but you cant have both. And love of money is the root of all evil.

Notice the descriptions of mystery babylon arent about religion, but describe a city that is luxurious and worldly and full of precious and luxury goods.

Many religions have an asceticism to them eg buddhism, hinduism, even catholicism and islam. Funnly enough a religion that claims to worship both God and money is prosperity heal and wealth gospel! And that originated, where else, the USA.

 

[SimpleGardner]

Arent global/multinational corporations and conglomerates now 'the beast'?
I dont think its anything to do with religious system as such, it would be entirely secular, with money being worshipped as God. Didnt Jesus warn about loving money, or God but you cant have both. And love of money is the root of all evil.

Notice the descriptions of mystery babylon arent about religion, but describe a city that is luxurious and worldly and full of precious and luxury goods.

Many religions have an asceticism to them eg buddhism, hinduism, even catholicism and islam. Funnly enough a religion that claims to worship both God and money is prosperity heal and wealth gospel! And that originated, where else, the USA.

Greeings Lanolin,

Perhaps anything that involves "worship" is a religion. One definition for religion is: a pursuit or interest to which someone ascribes supreme importance.

Babylon is a system of Commerce system that thrives on materialism. This is the essence of Babylonian cultures. They cannot emerge without the prominence of money. It takes money to build systems and have vast governments and infastructure. Note that Cain built cities! The rest of Adams peoples were shepherds and Horticulturists.

Scripture tells us
Pro 21:4 KJV An high look, and a proud heart, and the plowing of the wicked, is sin.

So even if the wicked plow the earth it's wicked! Why? Because they do it for money and to support cities not for personal food.

An interesting quote, I forget who said it, but it goes; "Man was created a gardener but by way of sin he became a farmer."

 

[Nebuchadnezzer]

Interesting observation. Is it possible that just the opposite is true? I'm thinking of the rule of Israel during the days of David and Solomon when the Laws of God and the State were united.

I certainly recognize the horrors of uniting the State and the Babylonian order. It is interesting to consider that Nebuchadnezzar staffed many of Babylons offices with Kingdom of Heaven minded men like Daniel, Hananiah, Mishael, and Azariah. Probably indicative of why the dream figure had a head of Gold. Not gold any more as the respect of Gods Kingdom principals have been replaced with Satanic principals. I think of the the Church of Rome/ The Papacy and how corrupt the entire organization is and how this influence has infiltrated all of the States since 325. I think it would be interesting to find out how many Catholics are within the halls of State power both elected and bureaucrats.

Perhaps the view we should have is that the State must be subject to the Laws of God which are maintained by the "priesthood". Essentially the priesthood were the directors and guardians of the State in the times of Solomon and David.


Thinking further on this theme, perhaps the USA has seemed above the fray due to the severance of the State from the latter day evil influences from the prevailing moral authority; the morally deminished iron model of the Babylonian doctrinal order or more appropriately "chaos". So while the USA was initially protected from overwhelming Babylonian influence and Papal jurisdiction which opened the opportunities for Christian men to prevail in their influence, those days are behind us. Obviously, we were subdued in the 1800's and overwhelmed in the early 1900's with the MYSTERY BABYLON takeover.

Yeah, I am not beholden to the USA factoring anywhere specifically. I did just kind of throwed that one out there as I was and am still trying to get my head around this "beast was, and is not, and is yet to come"

But I do feel strongly that the Whore of Babylon represents the Modern Era Roman Catholic Church.

Now I question does the Whore of Babylon also encompass many of the other erroneous christian denominations as well such orthodox catholic churches, and the mainline protestant denominations?

I see the mainline protestant denominations, which broke away from the Roman Church during the reformation, as trending back toward to the Roman church, (and moving away from Evangelical Christianity.)

 

[Nebuchadnezzer]

Arent global/multinational corporations and conglomerates now 'the beast'?
I dont think its anything to do with religious system as such, it would be entirely secular, with money being worshipped as God. Didnt Jesus warn about loving money, or God but you cant have both. And love of money is the root of all evil.

Notice the descriptions of mystery babylon arent about religion, but describe a city that is luxurious and worldly and full of precious and luxury goods.

Many religions have an asceticism to them eg buddhism, hinduism, even catholicism and islam. Funnly enough a religion that claims to worship both God and money is prosperity heal and wealth gospel! And that originated, where else, the USA.

Good point, Revelation does not describe religion anywhere specifically with Babylon.

I content that the 1st beast is government (Roman empire) , 2nd beast is government controlled religion, which then takes control (Roman Catholic Church medieval)
Then they are succeeded by various other governments (beast) and other worldly religious institutions (Whore of Babylon)
Now the way the Whore of Babylon is described, she is not controlled by the governments, but she does have a cozy/corrupt relationship at times and at times is at odds with them; this seems to match the Roman Catholic Church and others as well.

 

[SimpleGardner]

Yeah, I am not beholden to the USA factoring anywhere specifically. I did just kind of throwed that one out there as I was and am still trying to get my head around this "beast was, and is not, and is yet to come"

But I do feel strongly that the Whore of Babylon represents the Modern Era Roman Catholic Church.

Now I question does the Whore of Babylon also encompass many of the other erroneous christian denominations as well such orthodox catholic churches, and the mainline protestant denominations?

I see the mainline protestant denominations, which broke away from the Roman Church during the reformation, as trending back toward to the Roman church, (and moving away from Evangelical Christianity.)

Here's an interesting one to throw in the mix. in 1929 the Lateran Treaty forced the Papacy and vatacan city to become a Nation. The popes then became the "kings" of Vatican City. They issue their own passports...Well pope Benedict was the 6th King of the Papacy/Vatican City. Francis the 7th. If Benedict takes the Papacy again he will be the 6th and the 8th. Something to keep in mind.

 

[Nebuchadnezzer]

Here's an interesting one to throw in the mix. in 1929 the Lateran Treaty forced the Papacy and vatacan city to become a Nation. The popes then became the "kings" of Vatican City. They issue their own passports...Well pope Benedict was the 6th King of the Papacy/Vatican City. Francis the 7th. If Benedict takes the Papacy again he will be the 6th and the 8th. Something to keep in mind.

Very interesting. Thanks for sharing.

 

[Lanolin]

Very interesting. Thanks for sharing.

Its kinda hard to keep track of all these kings and empires.
Theres no point in asking me about any of the popes though. I have no idea what they really do, cos Im not catholic, all I understand is that catholics look up to them, but do popes have any real power over non catholic folk? I dont think they do. What a pope has said has never actually affected me.

 

[SimpleGardner]

Its kinda hard to keep track of all these kings and empires.
Theres no point in asking me about any of the popes though. I have no idea what they really do, cos Im not catholic, all I understand is that catholics look up to them, but do popes have any real power over non catholic folk? I dont think they do. What a pope has said has never actually affected me.

Greetings Lanolin,

Your comments and questions sum up the essence of it all regarding the Papacy which is what they call the Catholic Government, the pope being the head.

What we do know is that the Papacy emerged and seized control of the Christians of the early church while seizing control of the Roman government in around 325 ad. They did this by crowning one man as both emperor of Roman while simultaneously crowning him "Pontifex Maximus" a title giving him supreme authority over the "church" they were fashioning.

So, think of the early Christians, still under the influence of the teachings of Jesus via the apostles and their disciples being swept up by this pagan emperor who essentially took all of the complaints of all the religions; pagan and Christian as well as all the political unrest and merged them all in such a fashion that they could all be happy. The final result produced a "State" religion. The pagan Babylonian worshipers saw enough of their religion in the new state religion, Catholicism, to go along with it. The Christians who disagreed with the new state religion, which was MANDATORY. either acquiesced or were killed. The ones left nodded, convinced themselves there was enough of their old "Christian" faith given them by Jesus through the apostles to "go along" with the crowd so they became Catholic! Many original "Christians" who escaped Constantine's transformations fled to the wilderness where for over a thousand years they were hunted and systematically killed by the Papacy's (Constantines Religious/Governmental order) thugs.

Fast forward to the printing of the first Bibles and many of the Catholics begin to read it and see that they have been duped! They see that there is something amiss with this pope guy and his cardinals, bishops and priests besides their lust for money and pretty little boys! And so it began, people began to "Protest" the Catholic religion and its govornment! They called these protesters "Protestants"! and the Pope HATED/still HATES them!

So, this Protestant reformation tool Constantine's organization down a notch or two and the power mongering, gold lusting Papacy sought revenge. Hundreds of thousands/millions would die for their desire to serve God and not the Pope!

Fast forward to today, The Papacy is still in hot pursuit of their lost power over the masses. Partly because they desire to regain the worship of the Christians who used to worship their Pagan gods instead of the one true God that they do now and partly because they love the money and power they get from them!

So to your statement/question; "but do popes have any real power over non catholic folk? I dont think they do."

Over 70 percent of the Protestant religions who fought and died to escape the pagan Catholic religion have rejoined them!

Many estimate that the Papal state has enormous wealth that many have no clue about. The Rothschild family were created by the papacy and given the title; "Guardians of the Papal Treasure" How can anyone know how much that is? I don't think we can, but when i drilled down on that little fact the closest I got to knowing the sum was over 400 Trillion dollars! HOW? WHAT? Let this one go, it's too hard to get ones head around, but in this evil world, money is power and the Papacy has a lot of money! So the question is "who can't they control"? We must make sure that is us.

 

[Lanolin]

Greetings Lanolin,

Your comments and questions sum up the essence of it all regarding the Papacy which is what they call the Catholic Government, the pope being the head.

What we do know is that the Papacy emerged and seized control of the Christians of the early church while seizing control of the Roman government in around 325 ad. They did this by crowning one man as both emperor of Roman while simultaneously crowning him "Pontifex Maximus" a title giving him supreme authority over the "church" they were fashioning.

So, think of the early Christians, still under the influence of the teachings of Jesus via the apostles and their disciples being swept up by this pagan emperor who essentially took all of the complaints of all the religions; pagan and Christian as well as all the political unrest and merged them all in such a fashion that they could all be happy. The final result produced a "State" religion. The pagan Babylonian worshipers saw enough of their religion in the new state religion, Catholicism, to go along with it. The Christians who disagreed with the new state religion, which was MANDATORY. either acquiesced or were killed. The ones left nodded, convinced themselves there was enough of their old "Christian" faith given them by Jesus through the apostles to "go along" with the crowd so they became Catholic! Many original "Christians" who escaped Constantine's transformations fled to the wilderness where for over a thousand years they were hunted and systematically killed by the Papacy's (Constantines Religious/Governmental order) thugs.

Fast forward to the printing of the first Bibles and many of the Catholics begin to read it and see that they have been duped! They see that there is something amiss with this pope guy and his cardinals, bishops and priests besides their lust for money and pretty little boys! And so it began, people began to "Protest" the Catholic religion and its govornment! They called these protesters "Protestants"! and the Pope HATED/still HATES them!

So, this Protestant reformation tool Constantine's organization down a notch or two and the power mongering, gold lusting Papacy sought revenge. Hundreds of thousands/millions would die for their desire to serve God and not the Pope!

Fast forward to today, The Papacy is still in hot pursuit of their lost power over the masses. Partly because they desire to regain the worship of the Christians who used to worship their Pagan gods instead of the one true God that they do now and partly because they love the money and power they get from them!

So to your statement/question; "but do popes have any real power over non catholic folk? I dont think they do."

Over 70 percent of the Protestant religions who fought and died to escape the pagan Catholic religion have rejoined them!

Many estimate that the Papal state has enormous wealth that many have no clue about. The Rothschild family were created by the papacy and given the title; "Guardians of the Papal Treasure" How can anyone know how much that is? I don't think we can, but when i drilled down on that little fact the closest I got to knowing the sum was over 400 Trillion dollars! HOW? WHAT? Let this one go, it's too hard to get ones head around, but in this evil world, money is power and the Papacy has a lot of money! So the question is "who can't they control"? We must make sure that is us.

What, they rejoined the catholics. How.

I was once offered a job interview at a boys catholic school but had a few qualms about going there. If I was offered the job (i wasnt) I probably would have had some issues about working there. I only applied because mum saw it was a job I was qualified to do. But I was like really, a catholic school...I dont quite know about that. I did find out that the boys have to do some special duties that might include bowing and scraping or is it genuflecting to the pope. I dont know if the catholic schools are funded by the papacy.

But I do know that some christians who used to belong to RCC but left actually consider sending their children there, because they get special education subsisdies or something like that.

Catholic schools are the only ones who dont allow volunteers to teach Bible there why because they claim anyone who teaches Bible is wrong they only want it taught their way. I can handle a secular school that would accept any child more than a catholic one that says everyone needsto conform to catholicism.

People say they are good to work in, even if you not catholic...but I suspect some things wont sit well if you say anything about some of their practices that arent biblical.

 

[Lanolin]

The rothschilds..can someone explain who they are. I know they are a rich family, but what is their influence.

Another thing is, what about the orthodox, were they under RCC at one time or did they split later, I thought that was around 1000 BC there was a 'great schism' even before the protestant reformation. So how do RCC regard orthodox christians?

I think its unlikely that many christians who know their Bible well will go back to RCC although I have heard of the odd fundamentalist type joining the catholics and getting into Mary worship. But I think the abuses of the RCc are too well known for anyone who investigates why they would want to join them and be caught up with all that religion and dogma is anyones guess.

Unless they pay people to be catholic? Would it be like joining the military, you get all these material benefits and subsidies but BTW we want you to kill people too.

 

[SimpleGardner]

The rothschilds..can someone explain who they are. I know they are a rich family, but what is their influence.

Another thing is, what about the orthodox, were they under RCC at one time or did they split later, I thought that was around 1000 BC there was a 'great schism' even before the protestant reformation. So how do RCC regard orthodox christians?

I think its unlikely that many christians who know their Bible well will go back to RCC although I have heard of the odd fundamentalist type joining the catholics and getting into Mary worship. But I think the abuses of the RCc are too well known for anyone who investigates why they would want to join them and be caught up with all that religion and dogma is anyones guess.

Unless they pay people to be catholic? Would it be like joining the military, you get all these material benefits and subsidies but BTW we want you to kill people too.

Greetings Lanolin,

Imagine a pastor of a small church, struggling financially, or imagine a branch of protestant church and its leader being approached by the RCC. The RCC offers to subsidize their finances and properties if they simply agree to unite with the RCC. No need to change names, just pledge fealty to the RCC. Do you know very many Ministers, pastors, priests who do their ministry without being paid? God set up the priests in the Kingdom of Israel so that the priest couldn't own property but worked for food. Their inheritance was God. This prevented bribes, greed or avarice from becoming part of the priesthood! Today ministers are just businessmen who talk about God!

So, the RCC, havind what every businessman loves, money, would certainly have their ear! Would the scenarios that lead to these pastors/ministers acquiesing appear sinister? Not at all, it would all seem to be done in the name of promoting the ministry of Christ! And everyone would believe it, even the pastors and ministers!

 

[SimpleGardner]

Good point, Revelation does not describe religion anywhere specifically with Babylon.

I content that the 1st beast is government (Roman empire) , 2nd beast is government controlled religion, which then takes control (Roman Catholic Church medieval)
Then they are succeeded by various other governments (beast) and other worldly religious institutions (Whore of Babylon)
Now the way the Whore of Babylon is described, she is not controlled by the governments, but she does have a cozy/corrupt relationship at times and at times is at odds with them; this seems to match the Roman Catholic Church and others as well.

Greetings Nebuchadnezzer, Actually, Nebuchadnezzars dream dealt with beast governments from his time forward, BUT! it is important to know for the sake of understanding prophecy that Egypt and Assyria were the first two beast governments, Babylon was the third.

 

[Lanolin]

Greetings Lanolin,

Imagine a pastor of a small church, struggling financially, or imagine a branch of protestant church and its leader being approached by the RCC. The RCC offers to subsidize their finances and properties if they simply agree to unite with the RCC. No need to change names, just pledge fealty to the RCC. Do you know very many Ministers, pastors, priests who do their ministry without being paid? God set up the priests in the Kingdom of Israel so that the priest couldn't own property but worked for food. Their inheritance was God. This prevented bribes, greed or avarice from becoming part of the priesthood! Today ministers are just businessmen who talk about God!

So, the RCC, havind what every businessman loves, money, would certainly have their ear! Would the scenarios that lead to these pastors/ministers acquiesing appear sinister? Not at all, it would all seem to be done in the name of promoting the ministry of Christ! And everyone would believe it, even the pastors and ministers!

Wazza? So how can you really tell if a protestant church has joined with the rcc? Im just a 'layman' i suppose I dont know that much about church politics it gives me headache trying to figure it out.

 

[SimpleGardner]

Wazza? So how can you really tell if a protestant church has joined with the rcc? Im just a 'layman' i suppose I dont know that much about church politics it gives me headache trying to figure it out.

N

Not nearly as obvious as we might prefer. Here's an article from 1 1/2 years ago:

Protestants are Returning to Rome

October 17, 2017 by Andy Roman

We are seeing the final act of the drama develop before our eyes. The union of all the churches is an event of the end-times that will happen only one time – unlike wars, earthquakes and famines which are events that repeat themselves throughout history. Protestants are becoming absorbed into the Roman Catholic Church and this significant act on the part of Protestantism will lay the foundation for setting up the image of the beast in America.
“And his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.” Revelation 13:3.
A new poll has come out confirming that Catholics and Protestants have become indistinguishable from each other. Pew Research Center conducted a survey on the eve of the 500 Anniversary of the Protestant Reformation that states that both Protestants and Catholics in Europe and in the U.S. “now overwhelmingly express a willingness to accept each other as neighbors and even as family members.”
According to the new poll, in Protestant Germany, the birthplace of Martin Luther’s Reformation, 78% of Protestants believe that their distinctive faith is more similar and more in common to Roman Catholicism and only 19% of Protestants believe the two faiths are actually “different.” These feelings that Protestants and Catholics have more similarities than differences is also shared by Roman Catholics and Protestants all throughout Europe and even in America. This is what 50 years of ecumenism will do to you; it will bring you back to Rome.
Rome’s agents have used the ecumenical movement to first bring the Protestant Churches to the table, and now after 50 years of “dialog” they have come to view matters in the same light. Protestantism is now converting over to Roman Catholicism and is “wondering after the beast.” All of Europe is going over to Rome and Protestant America is next in the agenda:
“The Protestants of the United States will be foremost in stretching their hands across the gulf to grasp the hand of Spiritualism; they will reach over the abyss to clasp hands with the Roman power; and under the influence of this threefold union, this country will follow in the steps of Rome in trampling on the rights of conscience” (Great Controversy, 588).
The image of the beast is forming before our eyes as we see these words being fulfilled. When this prophetic statement was written over 100 years ago, at that time any hopes of reconciliation between Catholics and Protestants seemed impossible to everyone. But look at the situation today – Protestants can’t seem to compromise their faith fast enough! They are running to Rome for reconciliation and are shedding the image of being a “rebellious daughter.” They are returning by and large, collectively, to their “mother church.”
The overwhelming majority today see these previously irreconcilable faiths as identical in almost every way. When Rome looks at the Protestant churches she sees an image of herself. This is scary when you think about it because Rome never changes. The goal of Rome has almost been complete, which is to totally abolish the Reformation’s “protest.” The old, long-standing, historical, Protestant faith with its protest has been an obstacle in preventing Rome from regaining her supremacy in both spiritual and political matters. However, every obstacle that is standing in the way must be removed as Rome achieves her ultimate objective. The Reformation’s protest has been silenced all thanks to the disastrous results of the Vatican-Protestant interfaith dialog and cooperation. May this be a warning sign to every church and to every Christian believer.
“It was by associating with idolaters and joining in their festivities that the Hebrews were led to transgress God’s law and bring His judgments upon the nation. So now it is by leading the followers of Christ to associate with the ungodly and unite in their amusements that Satan is most successful in alluring them into sin. ‘Come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean.’ 2 Corinthians 6:17” (Patriarchs and Prophets, 458).

http://adventmessenger.org/protestants-are-returning-to-rome/

 

[UnderGrace]

Protestants are Returning to Rome

Some would argue, mainline Protestant churches never really left....ie "controlled opposition"

 

[SimpleGardner]

Some would argue, mainline Protestant churches never really left....ie "controlled opposition"

Agree completly. Even Martin Luther, after defiantly nailing a copy of his 95 Theses to the door of the Wittenberg Castle church went back to his church and held mass!