Not By Works

[theanointedwinner]

We can even blunder without even realizing it,

Even if we realize, most of the time, we are not even sure why we make mistakes

There could be many factors we neglected, and we are not in control

If you claim to be without sin you deceived yourself 1 John 1:10

And "he who is without sin, let him be the first to cast a stone" (John 8:7)

 

[theanointedwinner]

For James 4:7 - submit to God, resist the devil, and satan will flee from you

Say for example Satan can assault us with wide variety of discouragement, what would applying James 4:7 look like?

 

[UnderGrace]

I am talking about the reality of becoming Sinless, as we strive towards that GOAL,

No we strive to grow in Grace

 

[corazondeldei]

NIV1984 2 John 1:5-11
And now, dear lady, I am not writing you a new command but one we have had from the beginning. I ask that we love one another. And this is love: that we walk in obedience to his commands. As you have heard from the beginning, his command is that you walk in love. Many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is the deceiver and the antichrist. Watch out that you do not lose what you have worked for, but that you may be rewarded fully. Anyone who runs ahead and does not continue in the teaching of Christ does not have God; whoever continues in the teaching has both the Father and the Son. If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not take him into your house or welcome him. Anyone who welcomes him shares in his wicked work.

 

[dcontroversal]

Tell me, if a man is lying half dead on the street and a man walks by and ignores him, is he sinning or not?

That has nothing to do with how ONE is saved.....and works do not help save, keep saved or top off salvation.....nice twist.......was JESUS sinning when he told hi

So many Jesus + + false gospels, there is something wrong with the preachers behind the pulpits these days or something

Fully agree.....this corruption started with Cain offering his works and continues this day with ALL that blend faith plus anything to get saved, stay saved or top off salvation....the "many grouping" <----MOST fit this group--->LORD LORD have we not done blah, blah, blah in your name........

 

[cgneustar]

That has nothing to do with how ONE is saved.....and works do not help save, keep saved or top off salvation.....nice twist.......was JESUS sinning when he told hi


Fully agree.....this corruption started with Cain offering his works and continues this day with ALL that blend faith plus anything to get saved, stay saved or top off salvation....the "many grouping" <----MOST fit this group--->LORD LORD have we not done blah, blah, blah in your name........

Clearly you cannot answer the question because you know it is sin to ignore the need of someone else. This is why doing good works is a requirement, not something optional. Whoever ignores the cry of his brother will not be heard by God.

 

[theanointedwinner]

If we have sin on our hit list

The only competent assassin we "hire" to "get it out of our sight" is Jesus

On the cross, "it is finished"

Just have faith

And James 4:7

 

[dcontroversal]

My wife was witnessing to an elderly rich lady on her death bed, one day, and she asked, "What must I do to be SAVED." My wife said, "Just believe in JESUS CHRIST, receiving HIM as LORD of YOUR LIFE, and You will be SAVED." The elderly lady said, "I will never believe that, BECAUSE IT IS TOO SIMPLE." A few hours later she passed away. No indication that She had ever received Jesus Christ. How sad!

True story that is similar and equally tragic.....I had two granddads on my step dads side....One was a self righteous Pharisee and member of the Local Assembly of God church that taught a works based vanilla cafe dogma for salvation....the other a truck driver that was a drunk and loved his "Olympia" beer....both got cancer and died from it....My brother led the drunk to the Lord and he went out easy, with a smile and praising JESUS.......the other argued his works based dogma with my brother and when he died was whipping around on his bed screaming that he was catching fire and for someone to please help him........true story..........tragic

 

[dcontroversal]

Clearly you cannot answer the question because you know it is sin to ignore the need of someone else. This is why doing good works is a requirement, not something optional. Whoever ignores the cry of his brother will not be heard by God.

Stupid high school games like this does nothing pal......and I did answer........your works based drivel sames no one......never has, never will

 

[dcontroversal]

Deliverance can be lost, both now, and even when a man inherits the kingdom of God. Why else do you think Satan lost his position in heaven if not by sin, even though he was made perfect? Obedience to God will always be required, and if you disobey, you will but cut off. Satan is not only an example of this, but even the sons of Israel who disobeyed after they were delivered from the Egyptians. Anyone who thinks he can be delivered while living a lawless life is in complete error and understands nothing.

HAHHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAH we have another cake taker here folks....a working for salvation losing JESUS devaluing Cainologist.............listen Star child.......so far it is obvious that you do not understand much.....

 

[dcontroversal]

I have News for YOU, FRUIT is what you produce AFTER you have been BORN AGAIN. Just like our natural birth, YOU HAVE TO BE BORN FIRST, before YOUR Tree can ever PRODUCE FRUIT (WALK). And for your information, Obedience is NOT PART OF SALVATION, IT IS PART OF THE LOVE THAT GOD had the Holy Spirit Pour into our Human Spirit (HEART), Rom 5:5. So where is your LOVE?

Romans 11:6 (NASB)
6 But if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of works, otherwise grace is no longer grace.

Give him beans VCO......a cainologist that does not believe in JESUS........................

 

[cgneustar]

Stupid high school games like this does nothing pal......and I did answer........your works based drivel sames no one......never has, never will

You may continue believing whatever little fantasies you want to believe in, that you are not obligated to do good works, but in the end I will be proven right but what I told you, because it is the truth. And I have satisfaction in that truth, because any man that says he is not obligated to help his brother in need deserves to be thrown into aeonial fire,

Whoever closes his ear to the cry of the poor will himself call out and not be answered.
Proverbs 21:13

 

[dcontroversal]

The Messiah did not die to excuse lawlessness, he died to perfect his people by his blood, which the blood of animals waver able to do.

You obviously do not even believe what you write...........your working for blather contradicts the bolded......either JESUS perfects us by his blood or we do it by works......GRACE or WORKS.....both = a lie

 

[theanointedwinner]

Give him beans VCO......a cainologist that does not believe in JESUS........................

The c-word

I have a button to press

 

[cgneustar]

HAHHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAH we have another cake taker here folks....a working for salvation losing JESUS devaluing Cainologist.............listen Star child.......so far it is obvious that you do not understand much.....

The truth is folly to those who are perishing.

 

[dcontroversal]

well, we have a self-deceived sinless perfectionist. have not ha one in a while, guess we were do.

Exactly.....another deceiver that does not have the truth dwelling in him.........He will make the "plenteous in number group" according to his dogma.....

 

[dcontroversal]

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Morning and EVENING BLUE...........

 

[dcontroversal]

You may continue believing whatever little fantasies you want to believe in, that you are not obligated to do good works, but in the end I will be proven right but what I told you, because it is the truth. And I have satisfaction in that truth, because any man that says he is not obligated to help his brother in need deserves to be thrown into aeonial fire,

Whoever closes his ear to the cry of the poor will himself call out and not be answered.
Proverbs 21:13

The scripture already proves you wrong pal.............

He that believes on the SON is having everlasting life pal....and GOD eternally saves all that have genuine faith.............

 

[dcontroversal]

The truth is folly to those who are perishing.

BLAH BLAH BLAH.......I trust JESUS pal.....he saves by faith...you should try it before you miss the boat

 

[dcontroversal]

I could care less about what some website says. I do care about this- the Biblical definition of sin is missing the mark, falling short of a standard , knowing to do good and not doing so,

so, do you live up to these? do you uphold the Sermon on the Mount 24/7.

if you cannot truthfully say yes to these things, then you are not sinless.

He has been peddling that rigmarole since he joined.....just another sinless, perfectionist, cainologist that devalues JESUS while trampling his power, work and promises under his feet