No he died just like it says seven days later because the enemy's would have occasion to https://biblehub.com/interlinear/2_samuel/12-14.htm
Amillennialists...Here's a chance to state your case.
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No he died just like it says seven days later because the enemy's would have occasion to https://biblehub.com/interlinear/2_samuel/12-14.htm
None what so ever,,,Read 2 Samuel 12:14 he(their son) died because it gave occasion to Gods enemy's to blasphemy him(thats why according to the Scriptures).
I think you need to go back and show where I said God punishes the believer for their sin instead of putting words in my mouth.
What I said is that sin carries consequences and specifically in this life. If you steal from a bank, get caught, do you think you will be free to walk away because Jesus paid for your sins. Or do you think if you continually live in sexual promiscuity and whoredom that God will protect you from STDs?
lol,,,back up to the post several pages back where I ask you when, where and how Saul/Paul was saved and you'll see Ive been saying at the Cross and you have been saying that him and David were saved by everything and at different times other than the Cross.
How many times and in how many different ways will you deny that your salvation is any place and time other than the Cross?
As I have already stated, If you are willing to allegorize anyone of his many sons as Jesus, as and when it suits your purpose, then you can of course make any point you want.
lol,,, Hey take the floor and explain to us how David was saved by the works of the Law and not the Cross...
I realized you don't even read the post you are replying to. I have already stated that I agree with you in #1,356
If your point is that there are horizontal consequences of sins, I agree with you.
But my point to you is that David's son was taken away by the Lord himself. There is obviously no natural link between committing adultery and having that child born of that adultery having to die.
Scripture made it clear that God was the one that took away the Son's life
14 Howbeit, because by this deed thou hast given great occasion to the enemies of the Lord to blaspheme, the child also that is born unto thee shall surely die.
15 And Nathan departed unto his house. And the Lord struck the child that Uriah's wife bare unto David, and it was very sick.
That was a vertical consequence between God and man. God punished David for his sin of adultery. I am saying that God will never ever do that with us now under the grace dispensation. I am NOT saying that there are no horizontal consequences for sins.
If you agree with this point, we are done here.
A few post back you were talking about a word that meant that it(sin) was made as if it were not committed, what was that word again?
It is on this point we disagree. God has always dealt with sin. In this Dispensation His wrath is being withheld and people are mistaking it for a God that 'tolerates sin'. No, my God is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow, even when He delays Judgment.
So the point is you still believe that God will punish people for their sins, over and above the natural consequences?
Okay, we can agree to disagree on this point. You interpret scripture thru the lens of Covenant Theology even though you keep saying you are not.
An estimated one million Jews died in the war. Taking into consideration the relative population at the time I wouldn't
consider that a walk in the park.
You seem to confuse Amillennialism with Preterism when talking about the return of Jesus. What the war did was put an end to the
Old Covenant Temple System and everything that went with it. In the Gospels Jesus predicts this both in plain speech and in Parables
against the Jewish leadership. They ignored his warnings and paid the price. I suggest we read and understand what he said instead of ignoring him and historic facts because they don't fit our interpretations
on none, David's sin was imputed to him.
David was talking about us in the grace dispensation, and not himself.