"I am He"
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No one 'instantly knows who Jesus is', it takes a work of God's Spirit illuminating their understanding...
Matthew 16:16-17 NASBS
[16] Simon Peter answered, "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God." [17] And Jesus said to him, "Blessed are you, Simon Barjona, because flesh and blood did not reveal this to you, but My Father who is in heaven.
...even now, we are still learning.
Matthew 16:16-17 NASBS
[16] Simon Peter answered, "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God." [17] And Jesus said to him, "Blessed are you, Simon Barjona, because flesh and blood did not reveal this to you, but My Father who is in heaven.
...even now, we are still learning.
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This is an interesting proposition. But if Jesus was God the Father in human form, who was speaking on the mountain
of transfiguration?
John the baptist was filled with the Holy Spirit inside his mother, yet he baptised Jesus, which according to your
proposition is impossible.
John described Jesus as being Gods word, His message, His commands, His creative action.
The Holy Spirit is the essence of God, His heart, His presence, His communion.
So they are one in being yet 3 in separate expressions.
They are not 3 Gods, but 1 God, who expresses himself in 3 different ways.
Jesus describes that only the Father knows the appointed times for the ending of the world and
who will sit on which throne and why. Now if Jesus was actually the Father, then there would be
no distinction.
Jesus describes having to learn the ways of the Father and to listen and obey. So He was fully human
and restricted though His heart and Spirit were eternal. Jesus's Spirit was the Holy Spirit, but in a
different way than we experience it. For whatever reason the Holy Spirit could not be fully expressed
while Jesus was on earth, which I have never heard someone suggest why this was a problem.
Maybe the sense of intercession and standing before the Father to talk about the church was Jesus's
ministry, while the Holy Spirits ministry was to convey the Heart of Jesus and the Father to His people.
of transfiguration?
John the baptist was filled with the Holy Spirit inside his mother, yet he baptised Jesus, which according to your
proposition is impossible.
John described Jesus as being Gods word, His message, His commands, His creative action.
The Holy Spirit is the essence of God, His heart, His presence, His communion.
So they are one in being yet 3 in separate expressions.
They are not 3 Gods, but 1 God, who expresses himself in 3 different ways.
Jesus describes that only the Father knows the appointed times for the ending of the world and
who will sit on which throne and why. Now if Jesus was actually the Father, then there would be
no distinction.
Jesus describes having to learn the ways of the Father and to listen and obey. So He was fully human
and restricted though His heart and Spirit were eternal. Jesus's Spirit was the Holy Spirit, but in a
different way than we experience it. For whatever reason the Holy Spirit could not be fully expressed
while Jesus was on earth, which I have never heard someone suggest why this was a problem.
Maybe the sense of intercession and standing before the Father to talk about the church was Jesus's
ministry, while the Holy Spirits ministry was to convey the Heart of Jesus and the Father to His people.
GOD IS ONE AND ALSO THREE. THAT IS THE MYSTERY OF GOD.
Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name [SINGULAR] of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost (Mt 28:19)
For the sake of reverence for the name of God (not taking His name in vain) devout Jews substitute HA SHEM for "God" and "Adonai" (lORD) for YHWH. HA SHEM means "THE NAME". And that is what we find above.
But there are a multitude of Scriptures which show that the Father is YHWH and the Son is also YHWH. God told Moses that His name was also " I AM" (or I AM THAT I AM). But Jesus told the Jews that He is also "I AM". In fact this is very plainly revealed in Exodus 3.
Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name [SINGULAR] of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost (Mt 28:19)
For the sake of reverence for the name of God (not taking His name in vain) devout Jews substitute HA SHEM for "God" and "Adonai" (lORD) for YHWH. HA SHEM means "THE NAME". And that is what we find above.
But there are a multitude of Scriptures which show that the Father is YHWH and the Son is also YHWH. God told Moses that His name was also " I AM" (or I AM THAT I AM). But Jesus told the Jews that He is also "I AM". In fact this is very plainly revealed in Exodus 3.
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Thank you. Here is another
Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God. (Isa 44:6)
One God in two persons. The LORD is the King of Israel, and his redeemer is the LORD of hosts. I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God. (Singular)
Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God. (Isa 44:6)
One God in two persons. The LORD is the King of Israel, and his redeemer is the LORD of hosts. I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God. (Singular)
The Jews properly thought that to be the Son of the living God, was to make a claim to if deity itself. (David Guzik) Hence Simon Peter's response. 
What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin; As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one. Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips: Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness: Their feet are swift to shed blood: Destruction and misery are in their ways: And the way of peace have they not known: There is no fear of God before their eyes. Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God. (Rom 3:9-19 KJV)
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i. The Jews properly thought that to be the Son of the living God, in a unique sense, was to make a claim to deity itself. (David Guzik exactly as written.)
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Mat_16:16
And Simon Peter answered ... - Peter, expressing the views of the apostles, with characteristic forwardness answered the question proposed to them by Jesus: “Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.”
The Christ - The Messiah, the “Anointed” of God. See the notes at Mat_1:1.
The Son - That is, the Son by way of eminence - in a special sense. See the notes at Mat_1:17. This appellation was understood as implying divinity, Joh_10:29-36.
Of the living God - The term “living” was given to the true God to distinguish him from idols, that are dead, or lifeless blocks and stones. He is also the Source of life, temporal, spiritual, and eternal. The word “living” is often given to him in the Old Testament, Jos_3:10; 1Sa_17:26, 1Sa_17:36; Jer_10:9-10, etc. In this noble confession Peter expressed the full belief of himself and of his brethren that he was the long-expected Messiah. Other people had very different opinions of him, but they were satisfied, and were not ashamed to confess it.
Mat_16:17
And Jesus answered, Blessed art thou ... - Simon Bar-jona is the same as Simon son of Jona. Bar is a Syriac word signifying son. The father of Peter, therefore, was Jona, or Jonas, Joh_1:42; Joh_21:16-17.
Blessed - That is, happy, honored, evincing a proper spirit, and entitled to the approbation of God.
(Albert Barnes)
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Mat_16:16
And Simon Peter answered ... - Peter, expressing the views of the apostles, with characteristic forwardness answered the question proposed to them by Jesus: “Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.”
The Christ - The Messiah, the “Anointed” of God. See the notes at Mat_1:1.
The Son - That is, the Son by way of eminence - in a special sense. See the notes at Mat_1:17. This appellation was understood as implying divinity, Joh_10:29-36.
Of the living God - The term “living” was given to the true God to distinguish him from idols, that are dead, or lifeless blocks and stones. He is also the Source of life, temporal, spiritual, and eternal. The word “living” is often given to him in the Old Testament, Jos_3:10; 1Sa_17:26, 1Sa_17:36; Jer_10:9-10, etc. In this noble confession Peter expressed the full belief of himself and of his brethren that he was the long-expected Messiah. Other people had very different opinions of him, but they were satisfied, and were not ashamed to confess it.
Mat_16:17
And Jesus answered, Blessed art thou ... - Simon Bar-jona is the same as Simon son of Jona. Bar is a Syriac word signifying son. The father of Peter, therefore, was Jona, or Jonas, Joh_1:42; Joh_21:16-17.
Blessed - That is, happy, honored, evincing a proper spirit, and entitled to the approbation of God.
(Albert Barnes)
The Jews properly thought that to be the Son of the living God, was to make a claim to deity itself. (David Guzik) Hence Simon Peter's response.
My point is is that people don't naturally think that God has a Son...it must be revealed to them.
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Sorry, you are right. I particularly like these two passages with regard to Jesus:
Col 1:15-18
(15) Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
(16) For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
(17) And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
(18) And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.
1Ti 1:17
(17) Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen.
Col 1:15-18
(15) Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
(16) For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
(17) And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
(18) And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.
1Ti 1:17
(17) Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen.
