Gods Word - for a certain type surely

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DeighAnn

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#41
Not sure
but there are hierarchies of thrones and dominions and powers
whether this was in the Third Heaven before the presence of God I am not sure.
But given that Satan was in the Garden (trespassing?) and spoke deceitfully to Eve and Adam I surmise that the fall - angels
trespassing their roles and authority - and as in Genesis 6 copulating with the daughters of men (pre-Adamic women not the daughters
of Adam and Seth, etc.) happened before the forming of Adam and placing him in the Garden.
If you are ever looking for some scriptures that would back all that up let me know. I could point in the right direction.
 

DeighAnn

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#43
Go for it - keen to learn :geek:
I am sure as you have studied, you have found that God uses "the details" to separate multiple events that seem the same, but are really just similar. These details are important especially when we already possess "our own beliefs" and to open up to any changes of knowledge just feels wrong. So before you discount anything, CHECK it out in THE WORD. If it is of God you will find it there. I try to always use at least 3 verses, and always try to give 2nd witnesses when I can.

We already started off with the "problem" of Satan "already being bad" in the garden. Common Sense tells us that God didn't create him like that. so something had to happen for him to become bad, so there had to be a time before the garden. Now remember, Noahs flood comes AFTER the garden, so it can't come before. I just need you to keep the Truths of Gods Word straight.

2 Peter 3:5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water

6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:

2 Peter 3:7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

What does Gen 1:2 say And the earth was (go look up this word "was" and you will find it should have been translated BECAME) without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

The bible reads in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth and He created the earth without form and void and darkness was upon the face of the deep.

Does anything in your head tell you "NO, that isn't right" God doesn't create things without form and void. Didn't I read somewhere He created it to be inhabited? without form and void is not inhabitable.

Isaiah 45:18 For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; He hath established it, He created it not in vain, He formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else.
Isaiah 45:19 I have not spoken in secret, in a dark place of the earth: I said not unto the seed of Jacob, Seek ye me in vain: I the LORD speak righteousness, I declare things that are right.
Isaiah 45:20 Assemble yourselves and come; draw near together, ye that are escaped of the nations: they have no knowledge that set up the wood of their graven image, and pray unto a god that cannot save.
Isaiah 45:21 Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me.
Isaiah 45:22 Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else.
Isaiah 45:23 I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.

I MIGHT get a little carried away on verses, I love it when God speaks from the heart like this. Fear and Revere yes I do.
So and look at the phrasing God Himself that formed the earth and made it, He hath established it, He created it not in vain, He formed it to be inhabited.

We are searching for WHEN Satan went Bad. We know it had to be before the Garden. We now know that when God first created the earth it was to be inhabited. So who inhabited it? I know a verse that has always stood out like a sore thumb and that is in Job. Not to worry. It is in 38 and not before.


Job 38:1 Then the LORD answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said,
Job 38:2 Who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge?
Job 38:3 Gird up now thy loins like a man; for I will demand of thee, and answer thou me.
Job 38:4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.
Job 38:5 Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?
Job 38:6 Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;
Job 38:7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
Job 38:8 Or who shut up the sea with doors, when it brake forth, as if it had issued out of the womb?
Job 38:9 When I made the cloud the garment thereof, and thick darkness a swaddlingband for it,
Job 38:10 And brake up for it my decreed place, and set bars and doors,

God finally addressing Job. God knows "secrets" that we have yet to learn. Yet when He is speaking you know He is telling Truth. So what is He asking and telling at the same time? He is speaking of laying the foundations of the earth. Laying the measures of. "Stretched the line upon it" (Think latitude and longitude). The foundations, the corner stone (yeah) And He wasn't alone. I love how He does this right here "When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?" And without missing a beat it is back to creating. Just takes the breath away. If you aren't looking, if you aren't searching your are not going to find. These treasure are all through out. They are always found in the details. God created the languages. He knew exactly how this story was to be told. And it is for those who are seeking HIM. That is where He is found.

I hope you don't mind me writing this way. All of my previous work is gone. My fault. I should have had back up. So anyway I am starting from scratch, so this is for you but not just for you, so please be patient. It is hard for me to pull this all together. You know when you know something really well it is hard to tell without leaving out really important parts. Anyway, I have gotten very tired so I will continue on later. Shoot you probably wont even read it until tomorrow. Anyway till then...God Bless
 

DeighAnn

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Ezekiel 28:1 The word of the LORD came again unto me, saying,
Ezekiel 28:2 Son of man, say unto the prince of Tyrus, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Because thine heart is lifted up, and thou hast said, I am a God, I sit in the seat of God, in the midst of the seas; yet thou art a man, and not God, though thou set thine heart as the heart of God:
Tyre 6865 Tsor same as tsor a rock, a place in Palestine (not our rock)
is lifted up 1361 gabahh exalt
He is full of himself, full of Pride
Ezekiel 28:3 Behold, thou art wiser than Daniel; there is no secret that they can hide from thee:
Satan is super smart, he knows scripture and he will be waiting to use it
Ezekiel 28:4 With thy wisdom and with thine understanding thou hast gotten thee riches, and hast gotten gold and silver into thy treasures:
He knows this world and how it works and he is working it. His kenites are and have been for along time setting up the system for his "but a short time", he is coming to take as many souls as he can.
Ezekiel 28:5 By thy great wisdom and by thy traffick hast thou increased thy riches, and thine heart is lifted up because of thy riches:
They are very proud, and cunning, and wealthy
Ezekiel 28:6 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Because thou hast set thine heart as the heart of God;
He doesn't want to protect the Mercy seat, he wants to sit on it
Ezekiel 28:7 Behold, therefore I will bring strangers upon thee, the terrible of the nations: and they shall draw their swords against the beauty of thy wisdom, and they shall defile thy brightness.
the terrible of the nations = a terror striking people to Satan, Gods Elect
Ezekiel 28:8 They shall bring thee down to the pit, and thou shalt die the deaths of them that are slain in the midst of the seas.
The pit and the sea = the abyss and the lake of fire Isa and Rev
Ezekiel 28:9 Wilt thou yet say before him that slayeth thee, I am God? but thou shalt be a man, and no God, in the hand of him that slayeth thee.
Satan had Christ crucified. And now Christ will slay him.
Ezekiel 28:10 Thou shalt die the deaths of the uncircumcised by the hand of strangers: for I have spoken it, saith the Lord GOD.
UN-godly death
Ezekiel 28:11 Moreover the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
This is a switch in Dispensations
Ezekiel 28:12 Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty.
Description of Satan in first earth age
Ezekiel 28:13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.
THERE IS NOTHING NEW UNDER THE SUN Satan was created the full pattern. Actually the most capable of going up against God
Ezekiel 28:14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.
The anointed cherub, he was protecting the mercy seat, Gods Throne
Ezekiel 28:15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.
He stopped loving God and started loving himself
Ezekiel 28:16 By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.
Notice in verse 2 he is a prince, by the time we get to Verse 12 he is a king, working his way up.
Ezekiel 28:17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.
He is going to be cast to the earth with his angels and at the end of the millennium it will be the end. When he is cast down to earth he will still be very wise, very beautiful, know the scriptures, and very very deceiving to all who do not have on the gospel armor.
Ezekiel 28:18 Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.
He is ruining the houses of God, he is using them to make money and spread false doctrine, he is going to be set on fire from within, he is the only one sentenced to death in the lake of fire by name, hence the son of perdition.
If you have a Moffatt Bible I really like the way he renders this. It really gives a solid description of how much life then was as it is now. Society-wise. Just like you said "but there are hierarchies of thrones and dominions and powers" And it was all perfect for how long we don't know. The animals were flesh but the sons of God were in spiritual bodies But were do know that ALL were together and singing and shouting for joy.

Does it seem like a lot? Not really. We have no problem knowing when we die we receive our spiritual body. We have no problem knowing life goes on after this. Why would believing there was life before this be hard. When you have the solid foundation of the beginning, the bible all falls right into place. Rightly dividing is becomes so much easier because the questions answer themselves. God created us and heaven and earth. Satan who was created best, went bad and when he did, he turned 1/3 of Gods sons away from God. Instead of just killing off the entire project and starting over, because of His love of us, He figured out a way to give us another chance.
Couldn't sleep
 

DeighAnn

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Revelation 12:3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.7-10-7
Revelation 12:4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.
Did cast them to the earth-to this age in the flesh. And from the get-go in the garden, Satan was out the gate and running. The mystery of iniquity already at work. The kenites. What did the 2 churches God approve of teach? Good fig, Bad fig, Begin and End, Good vs Evil

Notice the 7-10-7 this will become important, not now, but for later study in Revelation because of Satan setting up on earth his system and it will explain why he has to get rid of 3. Just put it away for a later time.

Isaiah 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
Lucifer, tells us we are still in 1st earth age
Isaiah 14:13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
Isaiah 14:14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
Isaiah 14:15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.
Isaiah 14:16 They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;
Isaiah 14:17 That made the world as a wilderness, and destroyed the cities thereof; that opened not the house of his prisoners?
Isaiah 14:18 All the kings of the nations, even all of them, lie in glory, every one in his own house.
Isaiah 14:19 But thou art cast out of thy grave like an abominable branch, and as the raiment of those that are slain, thrust through with a sword, that go down to the stones of the pit; as a carcase trodden under feet.
A second witness.

So how did God end that world? Does He tell us Before you read this Go write down EVERY DETAIL YOU CAN ABOUT NOAHS FLOOD. YOU WILL NEVER HAVE THIS CHANCE TO DO IT AGAIN.


PLEASE, PLEASE READ THIS SLOW, DON'T JUST READ THIS FEEL THIS. THIS IS OUR GOD SHARING HIS FEELINGS WITH US
Jeremiah 4:19 My bowels, my bowels! I am pained at my very heart; my heart maketh a noise in me; I cannot hold my peace, because thou hast heard, O my soul, the sound of the trumpet, the alarm of war.
The war with Satan. The war for HIS sons is on, Satan is the best God created for good, now turned bad and the deception is just to much. The decision has been made, pained at His very heart, have you ever felt that pain that your heart actually hurts, it is hard to breath, it is hard to stand, it is hard to move,

Jeremiah 4:20 Destruction upon destruction is cried; for the whole land is spoiled: suddenly are my tents spoiled, and my curtains in a moment.
God has decided.
Jeremiah 4:21 How long shall I see the standard, and hear the sound of the trumpet?

Jeremiah 4:22 For my people is foolish, they have not known me; they are sottish children, and they have none understanding: they are wise to do evil, but to do good they have no knowledge.
Freewill. Free to chose good. Free to chose evil.
Jeremiah 4:23 I beheld the earth, and, lo, it was without form, and void; and the heavens, and they had no light.

Jeremiah 4:24 I beheld the mountains, and, lo, they trembled, and all the hills moved lightly.

Jeremiah 4:25 I beheld, and, lo, there was no man, and all the birds of the heavens were fled.

Jeremiah 4:26 I beheld, and, lo, the fruitful place was a wilderness, and all the cities thereof were broken down at the presence of the LORD, and by his fierce anger.

Jeremiah 4:27 For thus hath the LORD said, The whole land shall be desolate; yet will I not make a full end.

Jeremiah 4:28 For this shall the earth mourn, and the heavens above be black; because I have spoken it, I have purposed it, and will not repent, neither will I turn back from it.

I BEHELD the earth, and lo, it was without form and void. Remember the 3 and 4 verses before. This is not random. There is NO MAN, no bird, no boat. EVERY THING has been in the path of the LORDS anger. The whole land is desolate, this age has come to an end yet not a full end. The earth will mourn, the heavens will be black.







Genesis 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep.

And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
 

DeighAnn

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Psalm 104:1 Bless the LORD, O my soul. O LORD my God, thou art very great; thou art clothed with honour and majesty.

Psalm 104:2 Who coverest thyself with light as with a garment: who stretchest out the heavens like a curtain:

Psalm 104:3 Who layeth the beams of his chambers in the waters: who maketh the clouds his chariot: who walketh upon the wings of the wind:

Psalm 104:4 Who maketh his angels spirits; his ministers a flaming fire:

Psalm 104:5 Who laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not be removed for ever.

Psalm 104:6 Thou coveredst it with the deep as with a garment: the waters stood above the mountains.

Psalm 104:7 At thy rebuke they fled; at the voice of thy thunder they hasted away.

Psalm 104:8 They go up by the mountains; they go down by the valleys unto the place which thou hast founded for them.

Psalm 104:9 Thou hast set a bound that they may not pass over; that they turn not again to cover the earth.

Psalm 104:10 He sendeth the springs into the valleys, which run among the hills.

Psalm 104:11 They give drink to every beast of the field: the wild asses quench their thirst.

Psalm 104:12 By them shall the fowls of the heaven have their habitation, which sing among the branches.

Psalm 104:13 He watereth the hills from his chambers: the earth is satisfied with the fruit of thy works.

Psalm 104:14 He causeth the grass to grow for the cattle, and herb for the service of man: that he may bring forth food out of the earth;

Psalm 104:15 And wine that maketh glad the heart of man, and oil to make his face to shine, and bread which strengtheneth man's heart.

Psalm 104:16 The trees of the LORD are full of sap; the cedars of Lebanon, which he hath planted;

Psalm 104:17 Where the birds make their nests: as for the stork, the fir trees are her house.

Psalm 104:18 The high hills are a refuge for the wild goats; and the rocks for the conies.

Psalm 104:19 He appointed the moon for seasons: the sun knoweth his going down.

Psalm 104:20 Thou makest darkness, and it is night: wherein all the beasts of the forest do creep forth.

Psalm 104:21 The young lions roar after their prey, and seek their meat from God.

Psalm 104:22 The sun ariseth, they gather themselves together, and lay them down in their dens.

Psalm 104:23 Man goeth forth unto his work and to his labour until the evening.

Psalm 104:24 O LORD, how manifold are thy works! in wisdom hast thou made them all: the earth is full of thy riches.

Psalm 104:25 So is this great and wide sea, wherein are things creeping innumerable, both small and great beasts.

Psalm 104:26 There go the ships: there is that leviathan, whom thou hast made to play therein.

Psalm 104:27 These wait all upon thee; that thou mayest give them their meat in due season.

Psalm 104:28 That thou givest them they gather: thou openest thine hand, they are filled with good.

Psalm 104:29 Thou hidest thy face, they are troubled: thou takest away their breath, they die, and return to their dust.

Psalm 104:30 Thou sendest forth thy spirit, they are created: and thou renewest the face of the earth.

Psalm 104:31 The glory of the LORD shall endure for ever: the LORD shall rejoice in his works.

Psalm 104:32 He looketh on the earth, and it trembleth: he toucheth the hills, and they smoke.

Psalm 104:33 I will sing unto the LORD as long as I live: I will sing praise to my God while I have my being.

Psalm 104:34 My meditation of him shall be sweet: I will be glad in the LORD.

Psalm 104:35 Let the sinners be consumed out of the earth, and let the wicked be no more. Bless thou the LORD, O my soul. Praise ye the LORD.
 

PennEd

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The short of it.

There was an "age" before this age. God created all souls and they or we were all together. NO, we do not get to remember any of it, that is for our protection and by Gods design, so for the most part you are as old as you are today and the rest doesn't come into play till after this "flesh, also called terrestrial" body dies. I am sure you know, to be absent from the body is to be with God so it is just the flesh that we leave behind and seeing as that has no real effect for right now, put it on the shelf and get to things that matter.

So God made the heaven and the earth, we were made for His pleasure. Remember the saying there is nothing new under the sun? Well true. So there was, just like here is society. Lucifer/Satan was at the top of that society as a cherub that protected the Mercy Seat, Gods Throne. Full of wisdom, and beauty, and made the full pattern, at some point went from loving God to loving himself and the higher you are the farther you fall and he fell all the way into believing he could be God himself. He drew 1/3 of Gods children away and long story short, God destroyed that age. Now for the scriptures that back these things up. Next time, the beginning of "this age"


God tells us in Isaiah 45:17 But Israel shall be saved in the LORD with an everlasting salvation: ye shall not be ashamed nor confounded world without end.
Isaiah 45:18 For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else.
Isaiah 45:19 I have not spoken in secret, in a dark place of the earth: I said not unto the seed of Jacob, Seek ye me in vain: I the LORD speak righteousness, I declare things that are right.
Isaiah 45:20 Assemble yourselves and come; draw near together, ye that are escaped of the nations: they have no knowledge that set up the wood of their graven image, and pray unto a god that cannot save.
Isaiah 45:21 Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside me;


So what do we know of what happened there?

Talking of how God created Satan, how high up in office he was (I think he was his best friend)
Ezekiel 28:11 Moreover the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
Ezekiel 28:12 Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty.
Ezekiel 28:13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.
Ezekiel 28:14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.
Ezekiel 28:15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.
Ezekiel 28:16 By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.
Ezekiel 28:17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.
Ezekiel 28:18 Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.

I keep telling everyone that "lake of fire" will go away before the New Jerusalem comes and eternity starts………ashes, smoke goes up forever, shalt thou be any more, this age gone…but people want people to scream and burn forever, I don't get it. Couple hours is all I need.
Ezekiel 28:19 All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt thou be any more.

From <http://www.blgwd.com/iyohi/Copy_Paste_Bible/ezekiel.htm>

Revelation 12:1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:
Revelation 12:2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.
Revelation 12:3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.
(TOOK ME FOREVER TO SEE THE DIFFERENCE IN STRUCTURE OF AND/OR BETWEEN THE FIRST EARTH AGE REBELLION OF "SEVEN HEADS, TEN HORNS, SEVEN CROWNS AND THE ONE COMING AND EXPLAINED SOMETHING I WAS ASKING BUT CANT REMEMBER ANYMORE, I DIGRESS)

Revelation 12:4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth:
THIS IS WHY WE ALL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS FLESH AGE SO THAT GOD CAN GET AS MANY OF HIS CHILDREN BACK AS POSSIBLE, SOME TIMES I WONDER IF WE ARE ALL GOING THROUGH THIS FOR JUST A COUPLE BECAUSE THERE DOESN'T SEEM TO BE MUCH CHANGE FOR THE GOOD GOING ON, AND WE DO HAVE ETERNITY TO DO STUFF SO WHATS THE REAL BIG HURRY.

and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.

CAIN, FALLEN ANGELS, NEPHALIM???

Isaiah 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
STILL LUCIFER SO WE KNOW 1ST AGE
Isaiah 14:13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: 2ND???
Isaiah 14:14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
Isaiah 14:15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit. MILLENNIUM

THIS IS GOD TELLING US HOW HE FELT WHEN HE CHOSE TO SHAKE THE EARTH AND RENDER IT NULL AND VOID, YOU WILL SEE WHEN YOU COMPARE WITH GEN 1;2 DARKNESS OVER FACE
Jeremiah 4:19 My bowels, my bowels! I am pained at my very heart; my heart maketh a noise in me; I cannot hold my peace, because thou hast heard, O my soul, the sound of the trumpet, the alarm of war.
Jeremiah 4:20 Destruction upon destruction is cried; for the whole land is spoiled: suddenly are my tents spoiled, and my curtains in a moment.
NO LONGER NORTH POLE REALLY NORTH, CONTINENTS SPLIT,
Jeremiah 4:21 How long shall I see the standard, and hear the sound of the trumpet?
Jeremiah 4:22 For my people is foolish, they have not known me; they are sottish children, and they have none understanding: they are wise to do evil, but to do good they have no knowledge.
Jeremiah 4:23 I beheld the earth, and, lo, it was without form, and void; and the heavens, and they had no light.
Jeremiah 4:24 I beheld the mountains, and, lo, they trembled, and all the hills moved lightly.
Jeremiah 4:25 I beheld, and, lo, there was no man, and all the birds of the heavens were fled.
NOT LIKE NOAHS FLOOD WHERE THERE WERE MEN AND WOMEM AND BIRDS
Jeremiah 4:26 I beheld, and, lo, the fruitful place was a wilderness, and all the cities thereof were broken down at the presence of the LORD, and by his fierce anger.
Jeremiah 4:27 For thus hath the LORD said, The whole land shall be desolate; yet will I not make a full end.
HE DIDN'T MAKE A FULL END AND WE WILL REPLENISH THE EARTH WHEN HE STARTS IT UP AGAIN. THERE WAS NO MALE AND FEMALE IN FIRST AGE, THERE HAD TO BE IN THE FLESH AND THERE WONT BE FOR THE ETERNAL AGE CAUSE ALL WHO "MADE IT" IS ALL THERE IS.
Jeremiah 4:28 For this shall the earth mourn, and the heavens above be black; because I have spoken it, I have purposed it, and will not repent, neither will I turn back from it.
AND HE DIDN'T
Jeremiah 4:29 The whole city shall flee for the noise of the horsemen and bowmen; they shall go into thickets, and climb up upon the rocks: every city shall be forsaken, and not a man dwell therein.
Jeremiah 4:30 And when thou art spoiled, what wilt thou do? Though thou clothest thyself with crimson, though thou deckest thee with ornaments of gold, though thou rentest thy face with painting, in vain shalt thou make thyself fair; thy lovers will despise thee, they will seek thy life.
Jeremiah 4:31 For I have heard a voice as of a woman in travail, and the anguish as of her that bringeth forth her first child, the voice of the daughter of Zion, that bewaileth herself, that spreadeth her hands, saying, Woe is me now! for my soul is wearied because of murderers.
2Peter 3:4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.

AND THE EARTH BECAME NULL AND VOID.

Am I to understand that you think we were Angels, that were children of God at one time, and He wiped our memories of that time, made us human, and is trying to get us back, presumably as Angels again?

Do I have that right, or am I misunderstanding you?
 

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Am I to understand that you think we were Angels, that were children of God at one time, and He wiped our memories of that time, made us human, and is trying to get us back, presumably as Angels again?

Do I have that right, or am I misunderstanding you?
No, you pretty much got the jist of it. Before you decide on your own, please go to God in prayer and meditation. We have had this conversation before I think ? If I am wrong I apologize. Just some points to ponder

What does God say about the end times? things that have been hidden...

By no means is it a read and accept or reject. It is a study. No the quick kind. The talk to God kind.
It will open doors no man can close.

Before you decide on your own, please go to God in prayer and meditation. Remind Him of his promises.


Satan was there and drew 1/3 of Gods children to the earth.
Jacob I loved, Esau I hated
I knew you was that to Jeremiah?
Whom He did call
Fore knew
PRE Destined
Re Plenish

for this they are willingly ignorant that .....Was, is, and is to come.

When we die, we don't die we take on a new body, we are promised eternal life. Is this really in anyway far out? No.
The Lords Day is 1000 years at the end of that is the 2nd death.


No we are not given the information of the past as we are of the future but if I am wrong, Please, you put all of that into proper context.
 

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Revelation 22:10 And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand.

Revelation 22:11 He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.

Revelation 22:12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.

Revelation 22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

Revelation 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

Revelation 22:15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
 

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Am I to understand that you think we were Angels, that were children of God at one time, and He wiped our memories of that time, made us human, and is trying to get us back, presumably as Angels again?
Do I have that right, or am I misunderstanding you?
No, you pretty much got the jist of it.
Well thankyou for helping me out here.
I must admit I was starting to go cross-eyed reading so much material on a PC monitor ...

my two shillings worth is as follows
because one third of the angels trespassed and were cast down to Earth and imprisoned here, this loss will be replaced
by human beings who with the help of the indwelling Holy Spirit are overcomers and withstand the wiles of such spiritual
wickedness > our spiritual rebirth and faithfulness over all our tribulations and the deceitfulness of worldly desires has the
promise that we shall become transformed into glorious new spiritual beings and take the place of these lost angels.

For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven.
Mark 12:25
Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection.
Luke 20:36
Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?
1Corinthians 6:3
 

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Hello! I would tell you this,there are many hidden in plain sight truths in God's word....proverbs,parables,allegories,symbols,figures of speech...ect ect. Know this ....ONLY THRU THE GUIDANCE OF THE HOLY SPIRIT is the word of God revealed unto us. We can become side tracked with much learning,The fear of the Lord is the BEGINNING of wisdom,along with wisdom get knowledge and UNDERSTANDING! God gives good gifts unto His children! Some of your learning is erroneous,and will cause you and others to stumble. We should always ASK GOD" DO I PUT FORTH MY OWN INTERPETATION AND THERORY? " Let the word speak for itself under the revealing of the Holy Spirit!🙏🙏🙏
 

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Hello! I would tell you this,there are many hidden in plain sight truths in God's word....proverbs,parables,allegories,symbols,figures of speech...ect ect. Know this ....ONLY THRU THE GUIDANCE OF THE HOLY SPIRIT is the word of God revealed unto us. We can become side tracked with much learning,The fear of the Lord is the BEGINNING of wisdom,along with wisdom get knowledge and UNDERSTANDING! God gives good gifts unto His children! Some of your learning is erroneous,and will cause you and others to stumble. We should always ASK GOD" DO I PUT FORTH MY OWN INTERPETATION AND THERORY? " Let the word speak for itself under the revealing of the Holy Spirit!🙏🙏🙏
ABSOLUTELY, if it isn't in the Word, it isn't of God.
 

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ABSOLUTELY, if it isn't in the Word, it isn't of God. If the Word isn't rightly divided, it will lead to errors. I know this has not been up for even 24 hours, You are only giving your opinion because you have not had even a moment to check it out. What will you do when standing before God explain how you felt your thoughts were more important than studying His Word. I see none of Gods Scripture here on your part. How is that? What if your thoughts and ideas turn away one of Gods Children from the truth? I am positive that GODS JUDGMENT STARTS AT THE PULPIT, which is what we have here. EVERYTHING I have written has come from hours and hours of prayer, and study and meditation, and more of the same. And you come and read it and say such things, Judge not....
Not passing judgement! Just stating my thoughts!🙏🙏🙏
 

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And what do you base those thoughts on? Where is the erroneous thinking?
Hey! I'm not one for arguing the word but just above PennEd asked if you believed at one time we were angels? You affirmed this. If you don't want everyones opinion or thoughts maybe.....🙏🙏🙏
 

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And what do you base those thoughts on? Where is the erroneous thinking?
Hello! I would tell you this,there are many hidden in plain sight truths in God's word....proverbs,parables,allegories,symbols,figures of speech...ect ect. Know this ....ONLY THRU THE GUIDANCE OF THE HOLY SPIRIT is the word of God revealed unto us. We can become side tracked with much learning,The fear of the Lord is the BEGINNING of wisdom,along with wisdom get knowledge and UNDERSTANDING! God gives good gifts unto His children! Some of your learning is erroneous,and will cause you and others to stumble. We should always ASK GOD" DO I PUT FORTH MY OWN INTERPETATION AND THERORY? " Let the word speak for itself under the revealing of the Holy Spirit!🙏🙏🙏
Are you accusing me of putting forth just my thoughts
Hey! I'm not one for arguing the word but just above PennEd asked if you believed at one time we were angels? You affirmed this. If you don't want everyones opinion or thoughts maybe.....🙏🙏🙏
You stated erroneous thinking. Tell me where please include scripture
 

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Are you accusing me of putting forth just my thoughts

You stated erroneous thinking. Tell me where please include scripture
I AM NOT GOING TO ARGUE WITH YOU! IF THIS STICKS IN YOUR CRAW SO BE IT! ASK GOD WHAT HE THINKS ABOUT WHAT I SAID. IF I'M IN ERROR THE SPIRIT WILL CORRECT ME! I'M ACCUSING ...NO ONE OF ANYTHING...🙏🙏🙏BTW I'M DONE!
 

DeighAnn

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I AM NOT GOING TO ARGUE WITH YOU! IF THIS STICKS IN YOUR CRAW SO BE IT! ASK GOD WHAT HE THINKS ABOUT WHAT I SAID. IF I'M IN ERROR THE SPIRIT WILL CORRECT ME! I'M ACCUSING ...NO ONE OF ANYTHING...🙏🙏🙏BTW I'M DONE!
You are accusing me