Why I now believe that salvation can be lost.

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dcontroversal

dcontroversal

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UnderGrace said:
I thought you did not like to argue??

The Gospel is we are saved .... not quasi- saved.

It is irrevocable, it is a gift to those who believe God for it, which cannot be forsaken, lost, revoked, taken back or undone, that is not the God I serve ... He is not a God of half-measures.
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Look you quote scripture and the deceivers do not like it....kind of like the garden.....Satan disregarded the word as well and embellished.....
 
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@Nat2019 btw.... there is only one "grace" and it is not a license to sin.

Paul dealt with those same false accusations that you make, interesting how the same attacks occur on the gospel to this day.
 
Leastamongmany

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dcontroversal said:
Great minds and the bible does point us to the same truth.....these salvation losers on the other hand....their Jesus is very weak, inept and cannot keep his word I guess
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you are very near to blasphemy ,your arrogance will get you in the end!🙏🙏🙏
 
dcontroversal

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UnderGrace said:
@Nat2019 btw.... there is only one "grace" and it is not a license to sin.

Paul dealt with those same false accusations that you make, interesting how the same attacks occur on the gospel to this day.
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Amen...same bs charged laid to Paul's account.....deny the word and then accuse.....Satan's modus operandi
 
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dcontroversal said:
Look you quote scripture and the deceivers do not like it....kind of like the garden.....Satan disregarded the word as well and embellished.....
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And they never respond to said scripture.... they pull up a verse from Hebrews as their "trump card" not realizing Hebrews is all about the "security of the believer" apart from sacrifice and works.

It is quite ironic.
 
dcontroversal

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PennEd said:
We can all play the red X game if you like. Or you can just give your response!
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Amen....but coming from salvation losers and workers for...red x's just mean I am laying truth down and they are rejecting it
 
Leastamongmany

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I PUT YOU AND YOURS INTO THE LORD'S HANDS. HE DEALS JUSTLY!🙏🙏🙏
 
mailmandan

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Nat2019 said:
Where is the scripture that has the words "FINISHED WORK" of Christ?.
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Romans 3:24 - Being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus. Do you believe the redemption that is in Christ Jesus was FINISHED or UN-finished? Christ's finished work of redemption through His death, burial and resurrection is sufficient and complete to save believers. No supplements needed.

Where in the bible does it say we are justified by the term faith "ALONE". Not faith, but FAITH ALONE".
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The Bible clearly states in numerous passages of scripture that we are saved through belief/faith "apart from additions or modifications." (John 1:12; 3:15,16,18,36; 6:40,47; 11:25,26; Acts 10:43; 13:39; 16:31; 26:18; Romans 1:16; 3:22-28; 4:5; 5:1; 10:4; 1 Corinthians 1:21; Galatians 2:16; Ephesians 2:8; Philippians 3:9; 1 John 5:13 etc..). *You don't need to add the word "alone" next to "belief/faith" in each of these passages of scripture in order to figure out that the words, "belief/faith" stand alone in connection with receiving eternal life/salvation. Do these many passages of scripture say belief/faith "plus something else?" Plus works? NO. So then it's faith (rightly understood) IN CHRIST ALONE. (Ephesians 2:8,9) Do you believe that we are saved through faith in Christ alone or by faith plus works?

I read what's in the bible and DEMON faith- faith alone doesn't save according to the bible. Its Just believing a God exists.
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In James 2:19, we see that the demons believe "mental assent" that "there is one God" but they do not believe/have faith in/trust in/reliance in Jesus Christ for salvation. In other words, they do not believe on the Lord Jesus Christ (Acts 16:31) and are not saved. Their trust and reliance is in Satan, as demonstrated by their rebellion in heaven and continuous evil works.
 
dcontroversal

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Leastamongmany said:
you could do with some humbleness and probably forgiveness yourself!🙏🙏🙏
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You could use with a good course on biblical definitions....start with...

saved
justified
uttermost
irrevocable
kept
lose nothing
eternal life

just to name a few
 
PennEd

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mailmandan said:
Romans 3:24 - Being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus. Do you believe the redemption that is in Christ Jesus was FINISHED or UN-finished? Christ's finished work of redemption through His death, burial and resurrection is sufficient and complete to save believers. No supplements needed.

The Bible clearly states in numerous passages of scripture that we are saved through belief/faith "apart from additions or modifications." (John 1:12; 3:15,16,18,36; 6:40,47; 11:25,26; Acts 10:43; 13:39; 16:31; 26:18; Romans 1:16; 3:22-28; 4:5; 5:1; 10:4; 1 Corinthians 1:21; Galatians 2:16; Ephesians 2:8; Philippians 3:9; 1 John 5:13 etc..). *You don't need to add the word "alone" next to "belief/faith" in each of these passages of scripture in order to figure out that the words, "belief/faith" stand alone in connection with receiving eternal life/salvation. Do these many passages of scripture say belief/faith "plus something else?" Plus works? NO. So then it's faith (rightly understood) IN CHRIST ALONE. (Ephesians 2:8,9) Do you believe that we are saved through faith in Christ alone or by faith plus works?

In James 2:19, we see that the demons believe "mental assent" that "there is one God" but they do not believe/have faith in/trust in/reliance in Jesus Christ for salvation. In other words, they do not believe on the Lord Jesus Christ (Acts 16:31) and are not saved. Their trust and reliance is in Satan, as demonstrated by their rebellion in heaven and continuous evil works.
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Oh boy! The mailman is here! And that means the judaizers are about to get a special delivery of Gospel Truth!
 
PennEd

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Leastamongmany said:
Your arrogance is astounding,may God forgive you! Red xxx xxx means I disagree! Nothing ekse!🙏🙏🙏
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Yes. Those red X's are pretty to look at and receive aren't they!

BTW, didn't you say "GOOD DAY!" about 10 posts ago?
 
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