Not By Works

[dcontroversal]

In my opinion, salvation should be so simple, even a child can understand it

Jesus offer gift, child takes
simple!

It is that simple....

Be not removed from the simplicity found in Christ <--bible states this.....

 

[DeighAnn]

Ezekiel 18:23 Have I any pleasure at all that the wicked should die? saith the Lord GOD: and not that he should return from his ways, and live
Ezekiel 18:24 But when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and doeth according to all the abominations that the wicked man doeth, shall he live? All his righteousness that he hath done shall not be mentioned in his trespass that he hath trespassed, and in his sin that he hath sinned, in them shall he die

but when turns away a righteous man from his righteousness and commits iniquity according to all the abominations that does the wicked {man} and does

 

[Defenderofgrace]

I wish people stop making the gospel so complicated

 

[Defenderofgrace]

Mr. @dcontroversal

please PM me about information regarding the_eternal_microsecond,

thank you

 

[UnderGrace]

Be not removed from the simplicity found in Christ

I love this, I wish I had always understood this with the clarity I have now!!

So important.

 

[garee]

I wish people stop making the gospel so complicated

Yes grace alone through the work of Christ's faith alone. Simple work for him surpassing any human understanding . We must dig for the hidden gospel in the good ground .We might find a pearl or honey .

 

[DJ3]

The following is a comparison between the bible and salvation losers......and make no mistake...this is exactly what they peddle and or how they butcher the word of God by their losable salvation....

Bible -->I will never leave thee or forsake thee
Salvation Losers ---->Jesus is a liar and will leave us and forsake us

Bible --->We are saved to the uttermost and kept by the power of God through faith
Salvation losers --->The power of God is weak and inept, we are not saved to the uttermost and GOD does not keep us

Bible -->Jesus begins, finishes and completes the work of faith in us
Salvation losers --->WE must maintain our faith because JESUS does not finish and complete the work of faith in us

Bible -->He that believes on the SON is having everlasting/eternal life
Salvation losers --->He that believes and MAINTAINS his belief on the SON is having temporal life based upon what he does or does not do

Bible -->Therefore we conclude a man is justified by faith without the deeds/works of the law
Salvation losers -->James out of context tells us we are justified by our works before God

Bible -->It pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe
Salvation losers --->It pleased God by works, church membership, baptism, pew jumping, speaking in tongues, back flipping down the isle, saying 57 hail Mary's, taking the Lord's supper, keeping the sacraments and a dozen other religiously zealous man made efforts to save them

Bible -->NOTHING can separate us from the love of GOD
Salvation losers -->Numerous things can separate us from the love of GOD

Bible--->We are in the Son's hand, the Father's hand and NO AN can remove us from that position
Salvation losers -->The above is false, we can remove ourselves because God is weak and inept

Bible -->We are sealed unto the day of redemption
Salvation losers-->The seal of God can be broken because God is weak and inept

Bible --->Where sin abounds, grace abounds the more
Salvation losers--> We qualify, quantify sin and God's grace only covers those small sins when we mess up and for sure we have never lost it, but eternal security believers lose it because they believe they can live any way they want and live like the devil

Bible --->He that believes on the Son is not condemned
Salvation losers --> Believers are condemned all the time and returned to being goats after becoming sheep

Bible --> I will lose nothing, but raise it up the last day
Salvation losers -->God loses people all the time because he is too weak to keep them saved

Bible--> We are born again from above by INCORRUPTIBLE SEED
Salvation losers --> We are not born of incorruptible seed, because that seed can be corrupted and one die lost after being born again

Bible --> The gifts and calling of God are irrevocable
Salvation losers -->God's free GIFT of salvation can be revoked because GOD will break ALL the above promises and send one to hell after being saved

ETC.............I dare to say that salvation losers are false.....and what they peddle is not of GOD and as blasphemous as it comes......the above is a SMALL sample of scriptural promises that MUST BE DENIED, REJECTED and or SWEPT UNDER THE TABLE to peddle a dime store salvation that cannot be found in the bible and or a dime store salvation that devalues the work, promises and ministry of CHRIST!!!!!!!

The following is a fair comparison between the bible and faith alone regeneration theology. The verses that dc has presented are quite true and if this was all that the bible spoke on this subject he would be correct. But the following verses tell a more complete story of the good news of Jesus Christ. Verses that cannot be ignored or filtered through our own sensibilities of what it should mean.

I will try to be as fair as I can be.

Bible--> If you keep my commands, you will remain in my love, just as I have kept my Father’s commands and remain in his love. (John 15:10)
Faith Alone--> Keeping commands are works, we cannot lose the love of Jesus.

Bible--> For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother. (Matthew 12:50)
Faith Alone--> We are brothers and sister in Christ regardless if we do the will of the Father.

Bible--> He replied, “My mother and brothers are those who hear God’s word and put it into practice.” (Luke 8:21)
Faith Alone--> There is nothing to put into practice, God does all the practicing.

Bible--> I have fought the good fight, I have finished the race, I have kept the faith. Now there is in store for me the crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous Judge, will award to me on that day—and not only to me, but also to all who have longed for his appearing. (2nd Tim. 4:7-8)
Faith Alone--> God does all the fighting, God runs the race and God protects our faith. Salvation is not an award but a gift that we have no part in acquiring.

Bible--> You were running a good race. Who cut in on you to keep you from obeying the truth? (Galatians 5:7)
Faith Alone--> There is no race to run because Jesus ran it for us. Obeying the truth is but an act of merit.

Bible--> "Now that you know these things, you will be blessed if you do them" (John 13:17)
Faith Alone--> We can do nothing to get God's blessing they are a gift. If you do something for it then it is not a gift.

Bible--> You are my friends if you do what I command. (John 15:14)
Faith Alone--> There is nothing we can do to get closer to God.

Bible--> Then Peter began to speak: “I now realize how true it is that God does not show favoritism but accepts from every nation the one who fears him and does what is right. (Acts 10:34-35)
Faith Alone--> God accepts us not because we fear Him or because we do what is right.

Bible--> God will repay each person according to what they have done. To those who by persistence in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality, he will give eternal life.
Faith Alone--> We can do nothing to please God. Our persistence in doing good is for nothing. God gives eternal life to who He wishes.

Bible--> Therefore, my dear friends, as you have always obeyed—not only in my presence, but now much more in my absence—continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling, (Philippians 2:12)
Faith Alone--> You can do nothing to work on your salvation, God does all the work.

Bible--> See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition and the elemental spiritual forces of this world rather than on Christ. (Colossians 2:8)
Faith Alone--> God gives you salvation and no one hold you captive. This warning is moot.

Bible--> He that overcometh, I will give to him to sit down with me in my throne, as I also overcame, and sat down with my Father in his throne. (Rev. 3:21)
Faith Alone--> We cannot overcome, so God will never ask us to.

This is but a small sample of just the general verses in the NT on obedience and its blessings. There are many more that deal with the more detailed commands and blessings in both the Old and New Testament.

I do not deny or ignore any of the verses presented by dc but they do not make void the rest of the bible. The flow and form of the bible is one of God offering His blessings and man either accepting or rejecting His offer. There is no merit is simply complying with the directions of God. The Hebrews were not righteous because they applied the blood to the door post but blessed because they did.

Jesus is not devalued because of our compliance to His instructions. That is an absurd idea.

 

[Defenderofgrace]

DJ3 goes to the ignore list

he willfully accuses grace theology something grace is not

 

[DJ3]

My question for those who think that Jesus failed to pay the full penalty for sin, past present and future: after reading 1 John 1:10 do you believe that you are still saved? if so, why?

Your comment is but hyperbole. No one here thinks such a thing.

Jesus did not "fail". Mankind has failed. They fail by not coming to Him on His terms. It is these terms that is at issue not the power of God to grant salvation.

 

[dcontroversal]

The following is a fair comparison between the bible and faith alone regeneration theology. The verses that dc has presented are quite true and if this was all that the bible spoke on this subject he would be correct. But the following verses tell a more complete story of the good news of Jesus Christ. Verses that cannot be ignored or filtered through our own sensibilities of what it should mean.

I will try to be as fair as I can be.

Bible--> If you keep my commands, you will remain in my love, just as I have kept my Father’s commands and remain in his love. (John 15:10)
Faith Alone--> Keeping commands are works, we cannot lose the love of Jesus.

Bible--> For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother. (Matthew 12:50)
Faith Alone--> We are brothers and sister in Christ regardless if we do the will of the Father.

Bible--> He replied, “My mother and brothers are those who hear God’s word and put it into practice.” (Luke 8:21)
Faith Alone--> There is nothing to put into practice, God does all the practicing.

Bible--> I have fought the good fight, I have finished the race, I have kept the faith. Now there is in store for me the crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous Judge, will award to me on that day—and not only to me, but also to all who have longed for his appearing. (2nd Tim. 4:7-8)
Faith Alone--> God does all the fighting, God runs the race and God protects our faith. Salvation is not an award but a gift that we have no part in acquiring.

Bible--> You were running a good race. Who cut in on you to keep you from obeying the truth? (Galatians 5:7)
Faith Alone--> There is no race to run because Jesus ran it for us. Obeying the truth is but an act of merit.

Bible--> "Now that you know these things, you will be blessed if you do them" (John 13:17)
Faith Alone--> We can do nothing to get God's blessing they are a gift. If you do something for it then it is not a gift.

Bible--> You are my friends if you do what I command. (John 15:14)
Faith Alone--> There is nothing we can do to get closer to God.

Bible--> Then Peter began to speak: “I now realize how true it is that God does not show favoritism but accepts from every nation the one who fears him and does what is right. (Acts 10:34-35)
Faith Alone--> God accepts us not because we fear Him or because we do what is right.

Bible--> God will repay each person according to what they have done. To those who by persistence in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality, he will give eternal life.
Faith Alone--> We can do nothing to please God. Our persistence in doing good is for nothing. God gives eternal life to who He wishes.

Bible--> Therefore, my dear friends, as you have always obeyed—not only in my presence, but now much more in my absence—continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling, (Philippians 2:12)
Faith Alone--> You can do nothing to work on your salvation, God does all the work.

Bible--> See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition and the elemental spiritual forces of this world rather than on Christ. (Colossians 2:8)
Faith Alone--> God gives you salvation and no one hold you captive. This warning is moot.

Bible--> He that overcometh, I will give to him to sit down with me in my throne, as I also overcame, and sat down with my Father in his throne. (Rev. 3:21)
Faith Alone--> We cannot overcome, so God will never ask us to.

This is but a small sample of just the general verses in the NT on obedience and its blessings. There are many more that deal with the more detailed commands and blessings in both the Old and New Testament.

I do not deny or ignore any of the verses presented by dc but they do not make void the rest of the bible. The flow and form of the bible is one of God offering His blessings and man either accepting or rejecting His offer. There is no merit is simply complying with the directions of God. The Hebrews were not righteous because they applied the blood to the door post but blessed because they did.

Jesus is not devalued because of our compliance to His instructions. That is an absurd idea.

Nothing you said in the drivel above even comes close to being true.....show how much you don't know about what we believe.......and also shows how dishonest you really are

 

[dcontroversal]

DCONTROVERSAL'S replies in yellow and one thing people FORGET or DENY is that the comments of JESUS must be understood in light of the fact that he was born, lived and died under the law which ratified the NEW Covenant.......YOU have proven beyond a doubt that you have NO HONESTY or INTEGRITY by this POST of YOURS....and it does NOT even come close to being fair with what we believe

The following is a fair comparison between the bible and faith alone regeneration theology. The verses that dc has presented are quite true and if this was all that the bible spoke on this subject he would be correct. But the following verses tell a more complete story of the good news of Jesus Christ. Verses that cannot be ignored or filtered through our own sensibilities of what it should mean.

I will try to be as fair as I can be.

Bible--> If you keep my commands, you will remain in my love, just as I have kept my Father’s commands and remain in his love. (John 15:10)
Faith Alone--> Keeping commands are works, we cannot lose the love of Jesus.

FALSE......they have been condensed to two then one and JESUS LOVED US before HE SAVED US it is stupid to say we lose the love of JESUS

Bible--> For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother. (Matthew 12:50)
Faith Alone--> We are brothers and sister in Christ regardless if we do the will of the Father.

FALSE.......We have consistently said that two must be agreed to walk together and only those truly born again are considered brothers and sisters

Bible--> He replied, “My mother and brothers are those who hear God’s word and put it into practice.” (Luke 8:21)
Faith Alone--> There is nothing to put into practice, God does all the practicing.

FALSE....NONE of us have said or implied this = a lie

Bible--> I have fought the good fight, I have finished the race, I have kept the faith. Now there is in store for me the crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous Judge, will award to me on that day—and not only to me, but also to all who have longed for his appearing. (2nd Tim. 4:7-8)
Faith Alone--> God does all the fighting, God runs the race and God protects our faith. Salvation is not an award but a gift that we have no part in acquiring.

The bible states clearly that is it the GIFT of GOD and NOT of works lest any man should BOAST...are you really that dense or obstinate? AND PAUL was speaking to the reward (PAY or WAGES for service rendered)

Bible--> You were running a good race. Who cut in on you to keep you from obeying the truth? (Galatians 5:7)
Faith Alone--> There is no race to run because Jesus ran it for us. Obeying the truth is but an act of merit.

FALSE.......We are all commanded to run the race to obtain REWARD not SALVATION.....NO ONE can run the race unless they are SAVED

Bible--> "Now that you know these things, you will be blessed if you do them" (John 13:17)
Faith Alone--> We can do nothing to get God's blessing they are a gift. If you do something for it then it is not a gift.

FALSE......SOME blessings are freely given and some are rewarded for service rendered....SALVATION is a free gift the bible is clear

Bible--> You are my friends if you do what I command. (John 15:14)
Faith Alone--> There is nothing we can do to get closer to God.

FALSE.....FELLOWSHIP, NOT SALVATION, is based upon walking in the light as he is in the light.....and we are called to DRAW closer to GOD

Bible--> Then Peter began to speak: “I now realize how true it is that God does not show favoritism but accepts from every nation the one who fears him and does what is right. (Acts 10:34-35)
Faith Alone--> God accepts us not because we fear Him or because we do what is right.

FALSE.....1st speaking on a NATIONAL level...SECOND fear is the beginning of KNOWLEDGE to be supplanted WITH LOVE which casts out all fear

Bible--> God will repay each person according to what they have done. To those who by persistence in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality, he will give eternal life.
Faith Alone--> We can do nothing to please God. Our persistence in doing good is for nothing. God gives eternal life to who He wishes.

FALSE....We can please GOD by our walk, FALSE Christ does GOOD through us for MISTHOS pay or wages rendered reward, ABSOLUTELY HE GIVE ETERNAL LIFE to those who have genuine faith and he calls WHOM HE PLEASES

Bible--> Therefore, my dear friends, as you have always obeyed—not only in my presence, but now much more in my absence—continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling, (Philippians 2:12)
Faith Alone--> You can do nothing to work on your salvation, God does all the work.

Absolutely.....JESUS begins and completes the work of faith in us.....SALVATION is based upon CHRIST, HIS work, his power.......NO ONE works on their salvation and or even comes close to completing that which is already complete in CHRIST

Bible--> See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition and the elemental spiritual forces of this world rather than on Christ. (Colossians 2:8)
Faith Alone--> God gives you salvation and no one hold you captive. This warning is moot.

ABSOLUTELY..........GOD gives salvation as a GIFT and NO ONE can remove it.......get that through your head pal


Bible--> He that overcometh, I will give to him to sit down with me in my throne, as I also overcame, and sat down with my Father in his throne. (Rev. 3:21)
Faith Alone--> We cannot overcome, so God will never ask us to.

IDIOTIC.....THIS IS THE VICTORY that overcomes the world EVEN OUR FAITH

This is but a small sample of just the general verses in the NT on obedience and its blessings. There are many more that deal with the more detailed commands and blessings in both the Old and New Testament.

I do not deny or ignore any of the verses presented by dc but they do not make void the rest of the bible. The flow and form of the bible is one of God offering His blessings and man either accepting or rejecting His offer. There is no merit is simply complying with the directions of God. The Hebrews were not righteous because they applied the blood to the door post but blessed because they did.

Jesus is not devalued because of our compliance to His instructions. That is an absurd idea.

 

[Defenderofgrace]

JESUS must be understood in light of the fact that he was born, lived and died under the law which ratified the NEW Covenant

End of story?

And ratify means "to make valid"

 

[DJ3]

If you can lose salvation, then it must be earned.

You can not say you do not believe you can earn salvation, then in the next breath say if you do not do something, you will lose salvation.

its like me telling you I will give you 1 million doloars. As a grace gift, then impose requirments for you to keep that million dollars. And failure to do so will cause me to take back what I said I freely gave you.

1. I led to you by saying it was free
2. I am not trustworthy, I have decieved you into thinking it was free
3. I gave you what I called a gift, then tried to make you earn it, which makes it a reward or wage, not a gift.

A gift is paid in full by the giver. And is freely received by the receiver. Or rejected by the receiver.

A reward or wage must be earned by the receiver.

I think paul said it best, in warning the galation church who said openly salvation was originally received by grace, But after your saved, if you do not do these works. You will lose that salvation.

“Are you so foolish, havign begiun in the spirit, are you now trying to perfect it in the flesh. “

its like me telling you I will give you 1 million doloars. As a grace gift, then impose requirments for you to keep that million dollars. And failure to do so will cause me to take back what I said I freely gave you.

You mean like in Matthew 18:21-35

 

[DJ3]

DCONTROVERSAL'S replies in yellow and one thing people FORGET or DENY is that the comments of JESUS must be understood in light of the fact that he was born, lived and died under the law which ratified the NEW Covenant.......YOU have proven beyond a doubt that you have NO HONESTY or INTEGRITY by this POST of YOURS....and it does NOT even come close to being fair with what we believe

My post was much fairer and civil then yours. Your rebuttals are mostly generalities with little substance. My defense of Faith Alone was more convincing then your yellow words.

You seem to mostly mock and bully, you will not do this with me.

 

[VCO]

The following is a fair comparison between the bible and faith alone regeneration theology. The verses that dc has presented are quite true and if this was all that the bible spoke on this subject he would be correct. But the following verses tell a more complete story of the good news of Jesus Christ. Verses that cannot be ignored or filtered through our own sensibilities of what it should mean.

I will try to be as fair as I can be.

Bible--> If you keep my commands, you will remain in my love, just as I have kept my Father’s commands and remain in his love. (John 15:10)
Faith Alone--> Keeping commands are works, we cannot lose the love of Jesus.

Bible--> For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother. (Matthew 12:50)
Faith Alone--> We are brothers and sister in Christ regardless if we do the will of the Father.

Bible--> He replied, “My mother and brothers are those who hear God’s word and put it into practice.” (Luke 8:21)
Faith Alone--> There is nothing to put into practice, God does all the practicing.

Bible--> I have fought the good fight, I have finished the race, I have kept the faith. Now there is in store for me the crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous Judge, will award to me on that day—and not only to me, but also to all who have longed for his appearing. (2nd Tim. 4:7-8)
Faith Alone--> God does all the fighting, God runs the race and God protects our faith. Salvation is not an award but a gift that we have no part in acquiring.

Bible--> You were running a good race. Who cut in on you to keep you from obeying the truth? (Galatians 5:7)
Faith Alone--> There is no race to run because Jesus ran it for us. Obeying the truth is but an act of merit.

Bible--> "Now that you know these things, you will be blessed if you do them" (John 13:17)
Faith Alone--> We can do nothing to get God's blessing they are a gift. If you do something for it then it is not a gift.

Bible--> You are my friends if you do what I command. (John 15:14)
Faith Alone--> There is nothing we can do to get closer to God.

Bible--> Then Peter began to speak: “I now realize how true it is that God does not show favoritism but accepts from every nation the one who fears him and does what is right. (Acts 10:34-35)
Faith Alone--> God accepts us not because we fear Him or because we do what is right.

Bible--> God will repay each person according to what they have done. To those who by persistence in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality, he will give eternal life.
Faith Alone--> We can do nothing to please God. Our persistence in doing good is for nothing. God gives eternal life to who He wishes.

Bible--> Therefore, my dear friends, as you have always obeyed—not only in my presence, but now much more in my absence—continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling, (Philippians 2:12)
Faith Alone--> You can do nothing to work on your salvation, God does all the work.

Bible--> See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition and the elemental spiritual forces of this world rather than on Christ. (Colossians 2:8)
Faith Alone--> God gives you salvation and no one hold you captive. This warning is moot.

Bible--> He that overcometh, I will give to him to sit down with me in my throne, as I also overcame, and sat down with my Father in his throne. (Rev. 3:21)
Faith Alone--> We cannot overcome, so God will never ask us to.

This is but a small sample of just the general verses in the NT on obedience and its blessings. There are many more that deal with the more detailed commands and blessings in both the Old and New Testament.

I do not deny or ignore any of the verses presented by dc but they do not make void the rest of the bible. The flow and form of the bible is one of God offering His blessings and man either accepting or rejecting His offer. There is no merit is simply complying with the directions of God. The Hebrews were not righteous because they applied the blood to the door post but blessed because they did.

Jesus is not devalued because of our compliance to His instructions. That is an absurd idea.

Look at the paragraph that I changed to RED.
LOOK HOW YOU INSERTED YOUR OPINION and THEN INSERT the word Bible--> just to give your opinion some FAKE CREDIBILITY.

What do you call someone that gives you his opinion and pretends it is the word of God ? ? ?


YOU FORGOT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING.

The MOST IMPORTANT COMMANDMENT, and without it, HE will say, "I NEVER KNEW YOU!"

You don't seem to have LOVE for HIM as your most important commandment, in your THEORY. You only mention HIS LOVE for you. THAT KIND OF INTERPERSONAL LOVE FOR HIM, happens ONLY when you are BORN AGAIN. Are you Born Again ? ? ?

OBEDIENCE is PART OF YOUR LOVE FOR HIM.

What did JESUS say about THAT KIND OF LOVE FOR GOD!

Matthew 22:36-40 (NIV)
36 "Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?"
37 Jesus replied: "'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.'
[Strange you leave out the GREATEST Commandment in your list of YOUR THEORIES. Very Strange Indeed.]
38 This is the first and greatest commandment.
39 And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.'
40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments."

 

[VCO]

its like me telling you I will give you 1 million doloars. As a grace gift, then impose requirments for you to keep that million dollars. And failure to do so will cause me to take back what I said I freely gave you.

You mean like in Matthew 18:21-35

YOU WANT PROOF that YOU CANNOT LOSE YOUR SALVATION:

2 John 1:2 (HCSB)
2 because of the truth that remains in us and will be with us forever.

John 10:28 (HCSB)
28 I give them eternal life, and they will never perish—ever! No one will snatch them out of My hand.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

its like me telling you I will give you 1 million doloars. As a grace gift, then impose requirments for you to keep that million dollars. And failure to do so will cause me to take back what I said I freely gave you.

You mean like in Matthew 18:21-35

Matt 18 makes no such claim..

 

[Smooth]

I wish people stop making the gospel so complicated

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[Smooth]

The following is a fair comparison between the bible and faith alone regeneration theology. The verses that dc has presented are quite true and if this was all that the bible spoke on this subject he would be correct. But the following verses tell a more complete story of the good news of Jesus Christ. Verses that cannot be ignored or filtered through our own sensibilities of what it should mean.

I will try to be as fair as I can be.

Bible--> If you keep my commands, you will remain in my love, just as I have kept my Father’s commands and remain in his love. (John 15:10)
Faith Alone--> Keeping commands are works, we cannot lose the love of Jesus.

Bible--> For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother. (Matthew 12:50)
Faith Alone--> We are brothers and sister in Christ regardless if we do the will of the Father.

Bible--> He replied, “My mother and brothers are those who hear God’s word and put it into practice.” (Luke 8:21)
Faith Alone--> There is nothing to put into practice, God does all the practicing.

Bible--> I have fought the good fight, I have finished the race, I have kept the faith. Now there is in store for me the crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous Judge, will award to me on that day—and not only to me, but also to all who have longed for his appearing. (2nd Tim. 4:7-8)
Faith Alone--> God does all the fighting, God runs the race and God protects our faith. Salvation is not an award but a gift that we have no part in acquiring.

Bible--> You were running a good race. Who cut in on you to keep you from obeying the truth? (Galatians 5:7)
Faith Alone--> There is no race to run because Jesus ran it for us. Obeying the truth is but an act of merit.

Bible--> "Now that you know these things, you will be blessed if you do them" (John 13:17)
Faith Alone--> We can do nothing to get God's blessing they are a gift. If you do something for it then it is not a gift.

Bible--> You are my friends if you do what I command. (John 15:14)
Faith Alone--> There is nothing we can do to get closer to God.

Bible--> Then Peter began to speak: “I now realize how true it is that God does not show favoritism but accepts from every nation the one who fears him and does what is right. (Acts 10:34-35)
Faith Alone--> God accepts us not because we fear Him or because we do what is right.

Bible--> God will repay each person according to what they have done. To those who by persistence in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality, he will give eternal life.
Faith Alone--> We can do nothing to please God. Our persistence in doing good is for nothing. God gives eternal life to who He wishes.

Bible--> Therefore, my dear friends, as you have always obeyed—not only in my presence, but now much more in my absence—continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling, (Philippians 2:12)
Faith Alone--> You can do nothing to work on your salvation, God does all the work.

Bible--> See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition and the elemental spiritual forces of this world rather than on Christ. (Colossians 2:8)
Faith Alone--> God gives you salvation and no one hold you captive. This warning is moot.

Bible--> He that overcometh, I will give to him to sit down with me in my throne, as I also overcame, and sat down with my Father in his throne. (Rev. 3:21)
Faith Alone--> We cannot overcome, so God will never ask us to.

This is but a small sample of just the general verses in the NT on obedience and its blessings. There are many more that deal with the more detailed commands and blessings in both the Old and New Testament.

I do not deny or ignore any of the verses presented by dc but they do not make void the rest of the bible. The flow and form of the bible is one of God offering His blessings and man either accepting or rejecting His offer. There is no merit is simply complying with the directions of God. The Hebrews were not righteous because they applied the blood to the door post but blessed because they did.

Jesus is not devalued because of our compliance to His instructions. That is an absurd idea.

God’s command is that we believe in Jesus. His will is that we believe in Jesus. All the “do’s” regarding works pertains to having faith in Jesus.

Having faith is the doing/works. The works come naturally but it is for God’s glory, not for our salvation. Jesus teaches us that it is God’s good pleasure to give us the Kingdom. In essence, it is God’s works that give us salvation.

 

[dcontroversal]

Ezekiel 18:23 Have I any pleasure at all that the wicked should die? saith the Lord GOD: and not that he should return from his ways, and live
Ezekiel 18:24 But when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and doeth according to all the abominations that the wicked man doeth, shall he live? All his righteousness that he hath done shall not be mentioned in his trespass that he hath trespassed, and in his sin that he hath sinned, in them shall he die

but when turns away a righteous man from his righteousness and commits iniquity according to all the abominations that does the wicked {man} and does

How can you not understand.........WE ARE NOT UNDER THE LAW.....we are UNDER GRACE and quoting VERSES that are applicable unto the OLD COVENANT does NOT make them APPLICABLE to the NEW..................

JESUS RATIFIED the NEW COVENANT by HIS DEATH.............read HEBREWS.....and BE HONEST