BOMB thread.......sexual immorality!
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holy means to be set apart. it does not mean sinless perfection
holy means to be set apart. it does not mean sinless perfection
It is really mind boggling.
But i pondered off and on your statement earlier " he is able to keep us or not"...or something to that effect.
Then in deut 6 i saw this;
20 And when thy son asketh thee in time to come, saying, What mean the testimonies, and the statutes, and the judgments, which the Lord our God hath commanded you?
21 Then thou shalt say unto thy son, We were Pharaoh's bondmen in Egypt; and the Lord brought us out of Egypt with a mighty hand:
22 And the Lord shewed signs and wonders, great and sore, upon Egypt, upon Pharaoh, and upon all his household, before our eyes:
23 And he brought us out from thence, that he might bring us in, to give us the land which he sware unto our fathers.
""And he brought us out from thence, that he might bring us in, to give us the land""
We are going someplace
Someplace good
But beyond that ,He will see us to that place.
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Wait, feel how cuddly the puppy is, please, pay attention to the puppy
that was close
you can sleep peacefully tonight after all
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right
I was asking is He able to keep us or not?
this, is comforting:
35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
36 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.
37 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.
38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Romans 8:35-39
Some will believe they are only human, and are not perfect, and that they cannot abstain from sin.
But the Bible says by the Spirit we can abstain from sin, for it is the ways of the Spirit, and not of the flesh.
Although we still have the possibility to sin if want to sin, but we did it on purpose, and wanted to enjoy the sin, not that we cannot abstain from sin.
People should not make the excuse they cannot abstain from sins when they intentionally sin, and the world can even abstain from sins if they want, for they choose what sins they like, and what sins they do not like, but they sin because they are of the flesh.
There should be no excuse for a person that claims Christ, and they should admit that they like sinning, and enjoy it, for if they did not enjoy it they would not do it, instead of believing they cannot abstain from sins so they can believe they are right with God despite their sin.
God is not fooled, and I say this because many people will act like it is no big deal in our Christian walk if we engage in sins, which is not a Christlike attitude.
America has too much to offer concerning sin, and lusts, and many that claim Christ cannot keep their hands off of it, although I believe that they would not get too out of hand wanting to show some form of godliness, and would not engage in sexual immorality, and stealing, and heaping money, and material things to themselves, and fleshy pleasures, to the extent that the world does it.
But a little leaven leavens the whole bunch, and all sin is unrighteousness, even it is toned down.
Act 15:28 For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things;
Act 15:29 That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.
1Co 5:1 It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his father's wife.
1Co 5:2 And ye are puffed up, and have not rather mourned, that he that hath done this deed might be taken away from among you.
1Co 6:18 Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.
1Co 6:19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
1Co 6:20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.
1Th 4:2 For ye know what commandments we gave you by the Lord Jesus.
1Th 4:3 For this is the will of God, even your sanctification, that ye should abstain from fornication:
1Th 4:4 That every one of you should know how to possess his vessel in sanctification and honour;
1Th 4:5 Not in the lust of concupiscence, even as the Gentiles which know not God.
Fornication, which would also include all sexual immorality is one of the things that Paul told the Gentile saints to avoid, and is a sin that is against their own body, which if we are the temple of the Lord, then our body belongs to God to do good works, and present it holy before God, and His temple, which fornication would defile us to where that cannot be possible to be the temple of the Lord.
For us to be the temple of the Lord, and to commit fornication, would be like going to Church, the temple of the Lord where people gather, and painting graffiti all over the outside of the building, and doing the same inside the building, and ransacking it, and doing it for the purpose of defiling the Church, and not to better it.
Also people talk about sanctification, and believe we must be sanctified, but this is the will of God, even our sanctification, that we should abstain from fornication, that is how much fornication, and sexual immorality can affect our relationship with God.
So people can say it is not a big deal in their walk with God to engage in sins, for sin does not affect their relationship with God, but this is false, for the Bible, and Paul, and God, clearly lets us know how much God hates fornication, and sexual immorality, and wants us to abstain from it.
They can say sin does not affect their relationship with God, and we could give the benefit of the doubt that this could be true, but they are not going to pull the wool over anyone's eyes concerning fornication, and sexual immorality, for there is no denying that if a person holds unto that sin of sexual immorality they are not saved.
Will they listen to Paul on this one, for some will not but will still argue against it.
Amazing, mind boggling, how people want to enjoy sin so much that they will not face up to the truth.
2Ti 2:19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.
The Bible plainly states that the Lord knows them that are His, having this seal, for this is what seals the saints, and how they are led of the Spirit, that everyone that names the name of Christ depart from iniquity.
But fornication is a sin that tempts many people, and would appear as if it is the most difficult sin to beat, and the saints tempted the most by that sin.
Which sexual immorality being displayed in so many areas in society testifies that it is a sin that can affect many people, and generate a lot of money because of it.
Act 15:28 For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things;
Act 15:29 That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.
This is the burden that Paul gave to the Gentiles, to abstain from meats offered to idols, for of course for they should want nothing to do with idols, or the worship of idols, that is for sure a given, and abstain from blood, and things strangled, for of course for the life is in the blood so do not eat the blood, that is for sure a given.
But Paul also includes fornication as part of the burden to the Gentiles that is severe like the other 2 things Paul mentioned to abstain from.
For all sin is done without the body, but fornication is a sin against a person's own body, and defiles their body, which is the temple of the Lord, which we know we that it would be a grave sin for anyone to defile the temple of the LORD in the Old Testament times, and we have replaced that temple, for God now dwells in us.
Would a person think it is alright to defile the temple of the LORD in the Old Testament, and do it on purpose, and think it would not highly displease the LORD.
Or would they think it is alright to defile the Church where people gather, and do it on purpose, and think it would not highly displease the Lord.
Then we should not defile our body with fornication, and sexual immorality, for it is done on purpose.
But some people will still argue saying that it does not affect their relationship with God, for they can never fall, which they say that in general concerning sin, but many of them want to enjoy sin, and they sure want to enjoy the sin of fornication.
So they will not give heed lest they have to give up fornication, for there is many people who claim Christ that do not want to give up sin.
So they have 2 choices, give up sin, and believe that they are right with God by doing so.
Or hold unto sin, and believe that it does not affect their relationship with God.
But Paul is every clear that we have to abstain from the sin of fornication, and sexual immorality.
But many will not hear for they do not want to give up sin, but they still want to receive eternal life, so they have a belief system, and Church for those type of people.
Amazing.
1Co 9:26 I therefore so run, not as uncertainly; so fight I, not as one that beateth the air:
1Co 9:27 But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.
adokimos
ad-ok'-ee-mos
From G1 (as a negative particle) and G1384; unapproved, that is, rejected; by implication worthless (literally or morally): - castaway, rejected, reprobate.
Paul said if he did not abstain from sin that he would be a castway, which means unapproved, so how does God see Christ in them if they are unapproved.
And worthless, literally or morally, but the people that claim are supposed to be worthy of eternal life, and supposed to represent morality.
Castaway, rejected, reprobate, but how can those that claim Christ be a reprobate which is the same term for those of the world, and for those in Romans 1 that because they do not like to retain God in their knowledge that He turns them over to a reprobate mind.
Because sin does affect our relationship with God.
Heb 3:12 Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God.
Heb 3:13 But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.
The deceitfulness of sins means departing from the living God, which you are not retaining the knowledge of God, so you are reprobate.
2Ti 3:4 lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
2Ti 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
2Ti 3:7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
People that claim Christ, but do not want to give up sin, will not want to hear.
But the Bible says by the Spirit we can abstain from sin, for it is the ways of the Spirit, and not of the flesh.
Although we still have the possibility to sin if want to sin, but we did it on purpose, and wanted to enjoy the sin, not that we cannot abstain from sin.
People should not make the excuse they cannot abstain from sins when they intentionally sin, and the world can even abstain from sins if they want, for they choose what sins they like, and what sins they do not like, but they sin because they are of the flesh.
There should be no excuse for a person that claims Christ, and they should admit that they like sinning, and enjoy it, for if they did not enjoy it they would not do it, instead of believing they cannot abstain from sins so they can believe they are right with God despite their sin.
God is not fooled, and I say this because many people will act like it is no big deal in our Christian walk if we engage in sins, which is not a Christlike attitude.
America has too much to offer concerning sin, and lusts, and many that claim Christ cannot keep their hands off of it, although I believe that they would not get too out of hand wanting to show some form of godliness, and would not engage in sexual immorality, and stealing, and heaping money, and material things to themselves, and fleshy pleasures, to the extent that the world does it.
But a little leaven leavens the whole bunch, and all sin is unrighteousness, even it is toned down.
Act 15:28 For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things;
Act 15:29 That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.
1Co 5:1 It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his father's wife.
1Co 5:2 And ye are puffed up, and have not rather mourned, that he that hath done this deed might be taken away from among you.
1Co 6:18 Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.
1Co 6:19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
1Co 6:20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.
1Th 4:2 For ye know what commandments we gave you by the Lord Jesus.
1Th 4:3 For this is the will of God, even your sanctification, that ye should abstain from fornication:
1Th 4:4 That every one of you should know how to possess his vessel in sanctification and honour;
1Th 4:5 Not in the lust of concupiscence, even as the Gentiles which know not God.
Fornication, which would also include all sexual immorality is one of the things that Paul told the Gentile saints to avoid, and is a sin that is against their own body, which if we are the temple of the Lord, then our body belongs to God to do good works, and present it holy before God, and His temple, which fornication would defile us to where that cannot be possible to be the temple of the Lord.
For us to be the temple of the Lord, and to commit fornication, would be like going to Church, the temple of the Lord where people gather, and painting graffiti all over the outside of the building, and doing the same inside the building, and ransacking it, and doing it for the purpose of defiling the Church, and not to better it.
Also people talk about sanctification, and believe we must be sanctified, but this is the will of God, even our sanctification, that we should abstain from fornication, that is how much fornication, and sexual immorality can affect our relationship with God.
So people can say it is not a big deal in their walk with God to engage in sins, for sin does not affect their relationship with God, but this is false, for the Bible, and Paul, and God, clearly lets us know how much God hates fornication, and sexual immorality, and wants us to abstain from it.
They can say sin does not affect their relationship with God, and we could give the benefit of the doubt that this could be true, but they are not going to pull the wool over anyone's eyes concerning fornication, and sexual immorality, for there is no denying that if a person holds unto that sin of sexual immorality they are not saved.
Will they listen to Paul on this one, for some will not but will still argue against it.
Amazing, mind boggling, how people want to enjoy sin so much that they will not face up to the truth.
2Ti 2:19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.
The Bible plainly states that the Lord knows them that are His, having this seal, for this is what seals the saints, and how they are led of the Spirit, that everyone that names the name of Christ depart from iniquity.
But fornication is a sin that tempts many people, and would appear as if it is the most difficult sin to beat, and the saints tempted the most by that sin.
Which sexual immorality being displayed in so many areas in society testifies that it is a sin that can affect many people, and generate a lot of money because of it.
Act 15:28 For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things;
Act 15:29 That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.
This is the burden that Paul gave to the Gentiles, to abstain from meats offered to idols, for of course for they should want nothing to do with idols, or the worship of idols, that is for sure a given, and abstain from blood, and things strangled, for of course for the life is in the blood so do not eat the blood, that is for sure a given.
But Paul also includes fornication as part of the burden to the Gentiles that is severe like the other 2 things Paul mentioned to abstain from.
For all sin is done without the body, but fornication is a sin against a person's own body, and defiles their body, which is the temple of the Lord, which we know we that it would be a grave sin for anyone to defile the temple of the LORD in the Old Testament times, and we have replaced that temple, for God now dwells in us.
Would a person think it is alright to defile the temple of the LORD in the Old Testament, and do it on purpose, and think it would not highly displease the LORD.
Or would they think it is alright to defile the Church where people gather, and do it on purpose, and think it would not highly displease the Lord.
Then we should not defile our body with fornication, and sexual immorality, for it is done on purpose.
But some people will still argue saying that it does not affect their relationship with God, for they can never fall, which they say that in general concerning sin, but many of them want to enjoy sin, and they sure want to enjoy the sin of fornication.
So they will not give heed lest they have to give up fornication, for there is many people who claim Christ that do not want to give up sin.
So they have 2 choices, give up sin, and believe that they are right with God by doing so.
Or hold unto sin, and believe that it does not affect their relationship with God.
But Paul is every clear that we have to abstain from the sin of fornication, and sexual immorality.
But many will not hear for they do not want to give up sin, but they still want to receive eternal life, so they have a belief system, and Church for those type of people.
Amazing.
1Co 9:26 I therefore so run, not as uncertainly; so fight I, not as one that beateth the air:
1Co 9:27 But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.
adokimos
ad-ok'-ee-mos
From G1 (as a negative particle) and G1384; unapproved, that is, rejected; by implication worthless (literally or morally): - castaway, rejected, reprobate.
Paul said if he did not abstain from sin that he would be a castway, which means unapproved, so how does God see Christ in them if they are unapproved.
And worthless, literally or morally, but the people that claim are supposed to be worthy of eternal life, and supposed to represent morality.
Castaway, rejected, reprobate, but how can those that claim Christ be a reprobate which is the same term for those of the world, and for those in Romans 1 that because they do not like to retain God in their knowledge that He turns them over to a reprobate mind.
Because sin does affect our relationship with God.
Heb 3:12 Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God.
Heb 3:13 But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.
The deceitfulness of sins means departing from the living God, which you are not retaining the knowledge of God, so you are reprobate.
2Ti 3:4 lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
2Ti 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
2Ti 3:7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
People that claim Christ, but do not want to give up sin, will not want to hear.
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No flesh is justified in His sight. You may abstain from sex, but your old man, the flesh is still defiled. Nobody is holy on the outward.
Holy means pure, only the LORD is pure. Only Christ Jesus in us is pure. The righteousness of Christ is an inward life of the Holy Spirit alive in us. So long as our eyes are focused on Jesus, we can walk by faith and sin isn't even a thing.
Holy means pure, only the LORD is pure. Only Christ Jesus in us is pure. The righteousness of Christ is an inward life of the Holy Spirit alive in us. So long as our eyes are focused on Jesus, we can walk by faith and sin isn't even a thing.
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