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J
I don't think he does...
What is strange is he is focused on videos games!! What about TV, the internet, and millions of other things that people spend to much timing doing that don't involve God? You can literally take anything a person does for a hobby, and turn it into an unhealthy addiction that is like idol worship--moderation is the key.
What is strange is he is focused on videos games!! What about TV, the internet, and millions of other things that people spend to much timing doing that don't involve God? You can literally take anything a person does for a hobby, and turn it into an unhealthy addiction that is like idol worship--moderation is the key.
J
While spending every second of every day worshiping Jesus sounds great in theory, it is just completely unrealistic. You have to work, eat, sleep, and many other obligations in life-- taking care of children, keeping house, and ect. Honestly, God doesn't want to consume a persons life; he just wants to be at the center, and the most important part.
However, I think it is great that you want to pull people towards serving God, though. But, I just don't agree with how you are going about, and your logic.
However, I think it is great that you want to pull people towards serving God, though. But, I just don't agree with how you are going about, and your logic.
B
Ramon, you do make me wonder since you do seem to judge easily all who play video games to not entering heaven. If you are the kinda person you truly say you are, as we are not to get distracted playing video games, and do other things one likes to do in real life for own enjoyment. As we can't watch movies either, since that is also a lot of wasted time, we can't read other books if not being the bible, we can't do sports, etc... Same as the pc, a lot of wasted time is used on here checking whatever things you are interested in, easily to getting addicted even to the pc in general, not always needed being a game at all. I would beleive you should be living as you talk, and then you wouldn't even have a pc, nor a tv, nor books, nor anything else that might waste your time during a day.
If you want to have good Christian examples in front of you, start looking at the way persecuted Christians live their lives. Some of them might not even have time for spending time on the pc because they are too busy with doing what God has in mind for them, many of them are flaming so much for Jesus that they wants to tell everyone about it.
Yet, God has also different plans for each one of us. And yes, we are to be doing what God has in mind for each one of us. Yet, it is also something between us and God. If God sees that the way we spend our days is a form of waste and He wishes us to use it differently, I personally beleive He will tell us through our consciousness, and make us feeling aware and guilty about the wrong time spending. And this way to make us focuse more on whatever He puts in our hearts as missions and for own growth in God.
Though, I do also think it is a bit too harsh saying all that play games will go to hell. God knows what is in every heart, and if a person might be in a form of comfort zone because of having a really difficult time with him/herself, but still being a Beleiver, still seeking God in short terms, and then decides playing some video games 'cause a way of getting off bad focuses etc... God might allow this, and still keep on looking at this guy/girl as His precious and loved child.
If you want to have good Christian examples in front of you, start looking at the way persecuted Christians live their lives. Some of them might not even have time for spending time on the pc because they are too busy with doing what God has in mind for them, many of them are flaming so much for Jesus that they wants to tell everyone about it.
Yet, God has also different plans for each one of us. And yes, we are to be doing what God has in mind for each one of us. Yet, it is also something between us and God. If God sees that the way we spend our days is a form of waste and He wishes us to use it differently, I personally beleive He will tell us through our consciousness, and make us feeling aware and guilty about the wrong time spending. And this way to make us focuse more on whatever He puts in our hearts as missions and for own growth in God. Though, I do also think it is a bit too harsh saying all that play games will go to hell. God knows what is in every heart, and if a person might be in a form of comfort zone because of having a really difficult time with him/herself, but still being a Beleiver, still seeking God in short terms, and then decides playing some video games 'cause a way of getting off bad focuses etc... God might allow this, and still keep on looking at this guy/girl as His precious and loved child.
R
My words will condemn no one, but the words of Jesus WILL judge you on the last day. And are you in Christ? Anyone that is in Christ does not sin. Do you take up your cross and follow him DAILY? Do you seek FIRST his kingdom and HIS righteousness? Do you love this life? If you love this life and the pleasures of this life, then you have no life in you. Because Jesus said that if you love this life you will loose it and if you hate this life you will gain life, and that life is eternal. Do you worship God? Or do you worship your games? Is he the first thing on your mind every day? The last thing at night?
I am spending time in front of this screen to tell you to get from in front of that game screen and spend time with Jesus. He will come quick, and then he will judge, and his words will judge us on that day.
I am spending time in front of this screen to tell you to get from in front of that game screen and spend time with Jesus. He will come quick, and then he will judge, and his words will judge us on that day.
R
I eat sleep drink, and live Jesus Christ. I breathe Jesus Christ. Do you? God does want to consume a persons life. And we should be consumed in his life. And have you made him the center, the most important part, or do you keep your children and your house before him and HIS HOUSE. I tell you what Christ said that anyone who loves Wife, Husband, Parents, Brothers, his house, and his children MORE than JESUS is NOT WORTHY to enter his kingdom.
R
Ramon, you do make me wonder since you do seem to judge easily all who play video games to not entering heaven. If you are the kinda person you truly say you are, as we are not to get distracted playing video games, and do other things one likes to do in real life for own enjoyment. As we can't watch movies either, since that is also a lot of wasted time, we can't read other books if not being the bible, we can't do sports, etc... Same as the pc, a lot of wasted time is used on here checking whatever things you are interested in, easily to getting addicted even to the pc in general, not always needed being a game at all. I would beleive you should be living as you talk, and then you wouldn't even have a pc, nor a tv, nor books, nor anything else that might waste your time during a day.
If you want to have good Christian examples in front of you, start looking at the way persecuted Christians live their lives. Some of them might not even have time for spending time on the pc because they are too busy with doing what God has in mind for them, many of them are flaming so much for Jesus that they wants to tell everyone about it. Yet, God has also different plans for each one of us. And yes, we are to be doing what God has in mind for each one of us. Yet, it is also something between us and God. If God sees that the way we spend our days is a form of waste and He wishes us to use it differently, I personally beleive He will tell us through our consciousness, and make us feeling aware and guilty about the wrong time spending. And this way to make us focuse more on whatever He puts in our hearts as missions and for own growth in God.
Though, I do also think it is a bit too harsh saying all that play games will go to hell. God knows what is in every heart, and if a person might be in a form of comfort zone because of having a really difficult time with him/herself, but still being a Beleiver, still seeking God in short terms, and then decides playing some video games 'cause a way of getting off bad focuses etc... God might allow this, and still keep on looking at this guy/girl as His precious and loved child.
If you want to have good Christian examples in front of you, start looking at the way persecuted Christians live their lives. Some of them might not even have time for spending time on the pc because they are too busy with doing what God has in mind for them, many of them are flaming so much for Jesus that they wants to tell everyone about it.
Yet, God has also different plans for each one of us. And yes, we are to be doing what God has in mind for each one of us. Yet, it is also something between us and God. If God sees that the way we spend our days is a form of waste and He wishes us to use it differently, I personally beleive He will tell us through our consciousness, and make us feeling aware and guilty about the wrong time spending. And this way to make us focuse more on whatever He puts in our hearts as missions and for own growth in God. Though, I do also think it is a bit too harsh saying all that play games will go to hell. God knows what is in every heart, and if a person might be in a form of comfort zone because of having a really difficult time with him/herself, but still being a Beleiver, still seeking God in short terms, and then decides playing some video games 'cause a way of getting off bad focuses etc... God might allow this, and still keep on looking at this guy/girl as His precious and loved child.
W
That scripture you mentioned is incomplete and the way you posted it becomes just plain wrong!
It says: Rom 8:1 KJV
"There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit."
That is a totally different issue here. ONLY for those that DO NOT walk after the flesh but after the Spirit there is no condemnation, for all others there is!
Danger of leaving out scripture can twist the entire context!
It says: Rom 8:1 KJV
"There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit."
That is a totally different issue here. ONLY for those that DO NOT walk after the flesh but after the Spirit there is no condemnation, for all others there is!
Danger of leaving out scripture can twist the entire context!
W
Paul also says:
Coll 1:21-23
And you, who once were alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now He has reconciled 22 in the body of His flesh through death, to present you holy, and blameless, and above reproach in His sight— 23 if indeed you continue in the faith, grounded and steadfast, and are not moved away from the hope of the gospel which you heard, which was preached to every creature under heaven, of which I, Paul, became a minister.
2 Cor 13:5-6
5 Examine yourselves as to whether you are in the faith. Test yourselves. Do you not know yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you?—unless indeed you are disqualified. 6 But I trust that you will know that we are not disqualified.
Titus 1:15-16
15 To the pure all things are pure, but to those who are defiled and unbelieving nothing is pure; but even their mind and conscience are defiled. 16 They profess to know God, but in works they deny Him, being abominable, disobedient, and disqualified for every good work.
24 Do you not know that those who run in a race all run, but one receives the prize? Run in such a way that you may obtain it. 25 And everyone who competes for the prize is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a perishable crown, but we for an imperishable crown. 26 Therefore I run thus: not with uncertainty. Thus I fight: not as one who beats the air. 27 But I discipline my body and bring it into subjection, lest, when I have preached to others, I myself should become disqualified.
This seems to me along the line what Ramon is saying and a warning that we can become disqualified, if we don't stay in the "race" and do not test to see if we really are in the faith... by the fruits you will know!
And even if one makes it into heaven but their "works" are all burned up so they have nothing to show for, this would be sad enough!
Coll 1:21-23
And you, who once were alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now He has reconciled 22 in the body of His flesh through death, to present you holy, and blameless, and above reproach in His sight— 23 if indeed you continue in the faith, grounded and steadfast, and are not moved away from the hope of the gospel which you heard, which was preached to every creature under heaven, of which I, Paul, became a minister.
2 Cor 13:5-6
5 Examine yourselves as to whether you are in the faith. Test yourselves. Do you not know yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you?—unless indeed you are disqualified. 6 But I trust that you will know that we are not disqualified.
Titus 1:15-16
15 To the pure all things are pure, but to those who are defiled and unbelieving nothing is pure; but even their mind and conscience are defiled. 16 They profess to know God, but in works they deny Him, being abominable, disobedient, and disqualified for every good work.
24 Do you not know that those who run in a race all run, but one receives the prize? Run in such a way that you may obtain it. 25 And everyone who competes for the prize is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a perishable crown, but we for an imperishable crown. 26 Therefore I run thus: not with uncertainty. Thus I fight: not as one who beats the air. 27 But I discipline my body and bring it into subjection, lest, when I have preached to others, I myself should become disqualified.
This seems to me along the line what Ramon is saying and a warning that we can become disqualified, if we don't stay in the "race" and do not test to see if we really are in the faith... by the fruits you will know!
And even if one makes it into heaven but their "works" are all burned up so they have nothing to show for, this would be sad enough!
K
There is nothing wrong with clean entertainment. Jesus went to a wedding in John chapter 2; I'm pretty sure that he was entertained. Since God created this world with many forms of pleasures for man to enjoy, entertainment is only God given (at least good, clean entertainment is. Bad entertainment was created by man and his sinfulness).
1 John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us.
Maybe you should re-evaluate that bro. Coming onto a Christian site spreading your hate. Telling people they are going to burn in hell for playing video games. Trying to evangelize to the saved. That's called legalism and it has no place around here. Jesus also talks about wolves that try and come in.
Maybe you should re-evaluate that bro. Coming onto a Christian site spreading your hate. Telling people they are going to burn in hell for playing video games. Trying to evangelize to the saved. That's called legalism and it has no place around here. Jesus also talks about wolves that try and come in.
6 Now these things, brethren, I have figuratively transferred to myself and Apollos for your sakes, that you may learn in us not to think beyond what is written, that none of you may be puffed up on behalf of one against the other. (1 Corinthians 4:6)
2 You shall not add to the word which I command you, nor take from it, that you may keep the commandments of the Lord your God which I command you. (Deuteronomy 4:2)
32 Whatever I command you, be careful to observe it; you shall not add to it nor take away from it. (Deuteronomy 12:32)
5 Every word of God is pure; He is a shield to those who put their trust in Him. 6 Do not add to His words, Lest He rebuke you, and you be found a liar. (Proverbs 30:5-6)
18 For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book; 19 and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. (Revelation 22:18-19)
We are not to add to the word of God. Despite your continual repetition that playing video games is a sin, I have yet to see you reference a single verse which shows this to be the case. You're just making it up and claiming it's from God.
8 'These people draw near to Me with their mouth, And honor Me with their lips, But their heart is far from Me. 9 And in vain they worship Me, Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.' " (Matthew 15:8-9)
12 All things are lawful for me, but all things are not helpful. All things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any. (1 Corinthians 6:12)
23 All things are lawful for me, but not all things are helpful; all things are lawful for me, but not all things edify. (1 Corinthians 10:23)
15 To the pure all things are pure, but to those who are defiled and unbelieving nothing is pure; but even their mind and conscience are defiled. (Titus 1:15)
17 Command those who are rich in this present age not to be haughty, nor to trust in uncertain riches but in the living God, who gives us richly all things to enjoy. (1 Timothy 6:17)
22 Do you have faith? Have it to yourself before God. Happy is he who does not condemn himself in what he approves. (Romans 14:22)
Being addicted to video games is certainly a sin, because it is a lack of self-control (Galatians 5:23). But to claim that it is a sin in and of itself, that to play a video game on any occasion is a sin, is pure fiction.
2 You shall not add to the word which I command you, nor take from it, that you may keep the commandments of the Lord your God which I command you. (Deuteronomy 4:2)
32 Whatever I command you, be careful to observe it; you shall not add to it nor take away from it. (Deuteronomy 12:32)
5 Every word of God is pure; He is a shield to those who put their trust in Him. 6 Do not add to His words, Lest He rebuke you, and you be found a liar. (Proverbs 30:5-6)
18 For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book; 19 and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. (Revelation 22:18-19)
We are not to add to the word of God. Despite your continual repetition that playing video games is a sin, I have yet to see you reference a single verse which shows this to be the case. You're just making it up and claiming it's from God.
8 'These people draw near to Me with their mouth, And honor Me with their lips, But their heart is far from Me. 9 And in vain they worship Me, Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.' " (Matthew 15:8-9)
12 All things are lawful for me, but all things are not helpful. All things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any. (1 Corinthians 6:12)
23 All things are lawful for me, but not all things are helpful; all things are lawful for me, but not all things edify. (1 Corinthians 10:23)
15 To the pure all things are pure, but to those who are defiled and unbelieving nothing is pure; but even their mind and conscience are defiled. (Titus 1:15)
17 Command those who are rich in this present age not to be haughty, nor to trust in uncertain riches but in the living God, who gives us richly all things to enjoy. (1 Timothy 6:17)
22 Do you have faith? Have it to yourself before God. Happy is he who does not condemn himself in what he approves. (Romans 14:22)
Being addicted to video games is certainly a sin, because it is a lack of self-control (Galatians 5:23). But to claim that it is a sin in and of itself, that to play a video game on any occasion is a sin, is pure fiction.
R
Amen to the scriptures you posted. They are all very true. Sin is disobedience to his commands. When he says seek first his kingdom and his righteousness he means it. When he says draw closer to me and I will draw closer to you, he means it. Yes to the pure all things are pure, but to the unbelieving not one thing is pure. Even their minds and conscience are seared. And who is pure? Are you? Have you heard my testimony? Do you judge me correctly? Jesus will judge us all. He will judge us, even our own words will condemn us.
Many people are going to hell playing video games. Even now their consciences are seared with a hot iron. My message is to go to Jesus Christ and not to your games. The more we focus on other things be it games or anything that distracts us from obedience to Jesus Christ, the more subject we are to lies, and deceit. Yes, many people are on that wide road to hell, because they have traded life for games, righteousness for pleasure.
Many people are going to hell playing video games. Even now their consciences are seared with a hot iron. My message is to go to Jesus Christ and not to your games. The more we focus on other things be it games or anything that distracts us from obedience to Jesus Christ, the more subject we are to lies, and deceit. Yes, many people are on that wide road to hell, because they have traded life for games, righteousness for pleasure.
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I'm just pointing out that video games are not inherently sinful, such as, for example, lying, which is explicitly stated in scripture to always be a sin, no more than any other secular activity. Seek first the kingdom of God, but that doesn't mean that now and then we can't play a game, read a book, or jump on a trampoline (a dangerous past-time).
R
What is inherently sinful is deliberately disobeying Jesus Christ. Yes liars will have their part in the lake also, but so will idle servants. Many people will come from all over to sit with Abraham and Isaac and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven. But the children of the kingdom will be cast into outer darkness. There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth. Are you occupied with Jesus? Or are you preoccupied with games, and the such? Hell is not a story, it is an eternal burning, night and day, tearing away of flesh, where the worm does not die, and thirst is never quenched. Anyone who rejects Jesus Christ, rejects Life, and rejects his words. It was Jesus said that if you go to him he will give you water that will make it so that you never thirst again. He will give you that manna from heaven, which is his body. He died for our sins, his blood was poured out for our transgressions. We owe him our breathe, and he becomes our breathe. In him we live and move and have our being.
Satan is the god of this System, a system that was good but is now corrupt. Do not think it strange that he also has power over games, books and anything else.
2Thess 2:7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
2Thess 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
2Thess 2:9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
Yet greater is he who is in those who are in Christ, than he that is in the world. Don't be afraid, he has overcome the world. Jesus has overcome it all. That is why I say go to Jesus, not to your games. Be occupied with Jesus, not pre-occupied with games.
Satan is the god of this System, a system that was good but is now corrupt. Do not think it strange that he also has power over games, books and anything else.
2Thess 2:7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
2Thess 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
2Thess 2:9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
Yet greater is he who is in those who are in Christ, than he that is in the world. Don't be afraid, he has overcome the world. Jesus has overcome it all. That is why I say go to Jesus, not to your games. Be occupied with Jesus, not pre-occupied with games.
L
Well we are going to have to agree to disagree I am a Gamer, always have always will be till I am dead or Rapture eather way I will be playing them been gaming since the Atari 2600
I think if a person who is mature and knows its fake other people may not be but I am and I enjoy them do not tell me im going to hell cause I am a gamer...
I think if a person who is mature and knows its fake other people may not be but I am and I enjoy them do not tell me im going to hell cause I am a gamer...