The Pictures of Redemption, Shed Blood, Faith and Salvation in the O.T. that Pointed to JESUS

[JamOn]

What is your point here? We are discussing Noah ... Noah didn't kill anyone.

Good lord another one forget it, it was a analogy,

later

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I said it seems, IT SEEEMS is not implying you are saying that, but it strange out of blue you make this strange statement completely out of context.

EG
God is supposed to not create creatures he knew would sin, and only create creatures he knew would follow him?

I asked you a question. (Notice the ? At the end?) Is that what you think?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

There is an implication in your statement that Noah ran around naked and drunk. That is not what is indicated in Scripture.

Noah drank wine, was drunken, and in his own tent.

Gen 9:21 And he drank of the wine, and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent.


This is all we read about Noah when he drank of the wine of his vineyard. Do you know of another record which indicates "he became a naked drunk"?

A person who is naked and drunk is a naked drunk..

 

[dcontroversal]

For the record, I haven’t seen you say you have learned from any post on this site no where, please show me a post that someone taught you something and you said thank you for teaching you.

I like raspberry jam thank you.

Go read every thread I have posted in for the last almost 6 years.....and you will find that I have indeed gleaned truth from some and even stood corrected a few times pal.........and for the record....I have MANY conversations ONE on ONE behind the scenes with NUMEROUS people when they are WILLING to actually discuss while being OPEN to the truth

 

[dcontroversal]

There is an implication in your statement that Noah ran around naked and drunk. That is not what is indicated in Scripture.

Noah drank wine, was drunken, and in his own tent.

Gen 9:21 And he drank of the wine, and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent.


This is all we read about Noah when he drank of the wine of his vineyard. Do you know of another record which indicates "he became a naked drunk"?

EXACTLY like I referenced above.....and even better yet....SHOW any place in scripture where GOD rebuked him.....and to up the ante....I can SHOW where GOD HONORED the curse that NOAH placed ON HAM dia HAM's SON for making light of his nakedness and being drunk.....

 

[JamOn]

Go read every thread I have posted in for the last almost 6 years.....and you will find that I have indeed gleaned truth from some and even stood corrected a few times pal.........and for the record....I have MANY conversations ONE on ONE behind the scenes with NUMEROUS people when they are WILLING to actually discuss while being OPEN to the truth

Good now work on the vocabulary to match, you are quite rude and potty mouthy. You dog out more people than the other.

And how much weed do you smoke in that photo of you you look stoned as hell lol. Jk but you do look stoned haha

Pal

 

[dcontroversal]

Good now work on the vocabulary to match, you are quite rude and potty mouthy. You dog out more people than the other.

And how much weed do you smoke in that photo of you you look stoned as hell lol. Jk but you do look stoned haha

Pal

Potty mouth.....I do not use cuss words....just heated pointed sarcasm and rhetoric.....grow some skin

 

[reneweddaybyday]

Good lord another one forget it, it was a analogy,

later

forgotten as requested ...

 

[reneweddaybyday]

EXACTLY like I referenced above.....and even better yet....SHOW any place in scripture where GOD rebuked him.....and to up the ante....I can SHOW where GOD HONORED the curse that NOAH placed ON HAM dia HAM's SON for making light of his nakedness and being drunk.....

Yes, in spite of Noah's having drunk too much wine and being naked in his own tent, God gave Noah great honor in mentioning him in the great cloud of witnesses (Heb 11).

 

[JamOn]

Potty mouth.....I do not use cuss words....just heated pointed sarcasm and rhetoric.....grow some skin

Well you like to treat people that way because you like to be treated that way, that is why I treat you that way because you like it that way. Grow some horns to match pal.

 

[JamOn]

And I’m going to test your theory of grow some skin. This should be fun.

 

[Guojing]

You can go read it and find out for yourself because you have consistently proven that you have no interest in the truth when presented to you......

I already have an opinion on that question from my interpretation of scripture.

However I am interested in hearing your opinion. Again don’t regard everything in black and white.

 

[Guojing]

You know why you believe that because you know the story from the beginning to the end you have read, if you only knew the beginning of the story you couldn't come to such a conclusion

Yes God even knew satan would fall but God created satan anyways. can you figure that one out?

You might be keen to know that they tend to have a circular way of arguing their point that "faith alone saves". There was a thread I started about salvation during the tribulation period and its the same circular argument that they used.

If someone who has faith in Jesus takes the mark of the beast, he is not saved in the first place since that proves he has no faith, so salvation is still by faith alone and not faith AND works.

And likewise, if someone who has faith does not "endure to the end", Matthew 24:13, it proves he was never saved in the first place, so salvation is still by faith alone.

Even though the layman understanding of the terms, "rejecting the mark of the beast" and "enduring to the end" are works, they will still insist its part of faith. There is no way to have a reasonable discussion based on such circular reasoning.

 

[dcontroversal]

Yes, in spite of Noah's having drunk too much wine and being naked in his own tent, God gave Noah great honor in mentioning him in the great cloud of witnesses (Heb 11).

AMEN....and never rebuked him for what he had done.......

 

[dcontroversal]

And how much weed do you smoke in that photo of you you look stoned as hell lol. Jk but you do look stoned haha

Pal

I actually just seen this.....hilarious....good thing I am not easily offended and can take a joke..........! Actually that pic is in my cousins cabinet shop and I was running a wide belt sander for him and was getting DUSTED and NOT ripped...... HAH

 

[reneweddaybyday]

I actually just seen this.....hilarious....good thing I am not easily offended and can take a joke..........! Actually that pic is in my cousins cabinet shop and I was running a wide belt sander for him and was getting DUSTED and NOT ripped...... HAH

Hey! I'm thinking of starting a new trend ...

Friend: "are you high"

Me: "no ... just a little dusted"

[heh]

 

[dcontroversal]

Hey! I'm thinking of starting a new trend ...

Friend: "are you high"

Me: "no ... just a little dusted"

[heh]

HAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHHAHHAHAHAH that was hilarious

 

[JamOn]

I actually just seen this.....hilarious....good thing I am not easily offended and can take a joke..........! Actually that pic is in my cousins cabinet shop and I was running a wide belt sander for him and was getting DUSTED and NOT ripped...... HAH

sawdust is like sandpaper in the eyes, I got a friend who has a cabinet shop as well to funny.

 

[garee]

My only problem with this is the fact that in the O.T. the word Anointed is used 39 times in the O.T. and is translated Messiah 39 times in the Septuagint.......

The Greek Septuagint version of the Old Testament renders all thirty-nine instances of the Hebrew word for "anointed" (Mašíaḥ) as Χριστός (Khristós). The New Testament records the Greek transliteration Μεσσίας, Messias twice in John

Khristós ... it would seem is used as a noun. The word as a verb anoint or anointed is used several time in the new testament.

It would seem to be the name used indicating that in the last days the Holy Spirit (Christ) would speak directly through the Son of man Jesus. It is like Jesus saying He is the truth personified. Or God is love. . not that he can but is the one source. Jesus was used as a demonstration of the unseen anointing work of the Holy Spirit (the father and son working together to establish the government of God.. . .as it is written

Christ is the anointing Holy Spirit of God. He does the anointing teaching, comforting, guiding and also brings to our memory that which he has taught us . He was active in the old testament as well as the new.

 

[garee]

didn’t it take Noah about 100 years to build the ark, kind of sounds like he had to build his salvation.

Sounds like the work of the Holy Spirit who began the good work of salvation in Noah and some of the family members. The spiritual seed Christ was still being developed and protected from the father of lies. That genealogy of the Son of man was fulfilled with Jesus.(Mathew 1)

God's love is long suffering (120 years) His patience is kind. . .(Noah was slow) teaching us the end of a matter can be better than the beginning. . . giving us a living hope that will not disappoint.. No need for him to boast in that which he does finish. He never starts something without...finishing

Its the kind of food being moved with a new desire to do the will of God unseen and finish it. .The kind of food that the disciples knew not of at first.

Philippians 1;6 King James Version (KJV) Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:

It all began long ago in a far away place. Not a cloud in the sky. There God spoke and said.

Make thee an ark of gopher wood; rooms shalt thou make in the ark, and shalt pitch it within and without with pitch. Genesis6 :4

We are informed in Philippians 2:12 it worked in Noah to both will and perform the good pleasure of God .( Imputed righteousness)

I am sure the neighbors had much dispute and murmured but the Holy Spirit continued his work of Emanuel (God with Noah ) .

For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure. Do all things without murmurings and disputings: Philippians 2:12

Hebrews 6 informs us that He will not forget the good works of Noah that Noah offered towards the name. . .as the authority of God that worked in Him. . it accompanied his salvation . Without it he could not believe God..

Who is working in us? Should be the same spirit of faith .the promise he will not forget our works that he works with us still applies.

9 But, beloved, we are persuaded better things of you, and things that accompany salvation, though we thus speak.


10 For God is not unrighteous to forget your work and labour of love, which ye have shewed toward his name, in that ye have ministered to the saints, and do minister.