Amen! Yes my sister, he does give us the understanding of ''Action or Punishment.'' This is why wisdom and understanding come from the fear of God, to keep his commands. And to hate evil. Amen! Just as the Holy Spirit teaches us to educate them on the path they Should follow, as he also teaches us on the path we should follow Which is the Way of Jesus Christ!!
My mother has never whipped me.
But I HAVE Been
Spanked
Had Vinegar In My Mouth
Time Out
And Being Grounded
That along with everything else that has happened to me has made me a very consiencous (or how ever you spell it) and good person.
You are, by many standards still a child yourself Ramon (yeah, sorry, I don't count being older than 18 as being adult)
glad im not a christian im not whippig my child and leaving scars on them if you ever do have children and you whip them i hope that when there older they will whip you back
by that logic God should chasten our children, not us
Being a Christian doesn't get you into heaven. Obedience to Jesus Christ does. Do not boast in the fact that you follow hard after sin. God will judge sinners, but he will spare the righteous. It is better that a child be chastised NOW than to spend eternity in hell. Will you be saved? Are you following Christ? The Lord will judge sinners with great justice. His wrath is being stored up for them. It is better to prune a tree that produces fruit, but any tree that will not produce fruit will be chopped down and thrown into the fire, the eternal fire.
it was YOU who compared adults to spoiled little children and said it is up to God to punish
besides, in most cultures, whipping, as you refered to it, is torture, and illegal
dont care honestly out of the choice of not harming a child to whipping a child to go to heaven i rather go to hell
Not harming a child will not save you from hell. Obedience will. And it is Obedience to Jesus Christ that will spare us on that day, when we are judged. But anyone disobedient to Jesus Christ will have no part with him. God never harms his children. Job was not harmed at all. Would you say also that God is not just who chastises his children? Would you say Jesus is not the good shepherd who also is the Rod of God? There is no wonder so many people are disobedient to parents. No wonder why so many parents have no control over their children. Following the standards of man who say spare the Rod, rather than the standards of God, who is just in EVERYTHING he does. Who do you follow? Jesus or man?
I know I won't be a fan of physically disciplining my kids in the future. Some psychological tests have shown that people who were physically disciplined (not abused) as children are more likely to be physically abusive, aggressive or violent in adulthood.
If you HAVE TO do so, do it with care and only in the utmost necessary moments. Always or almost always using physical discipline can give your child the impression that hitting/slapping is the only way to deal with being upset.
I don't know my mom hit me and i'm not a violent person. I was a very stubborn kid, and I've grown to be a very stubborn adult. my kids take after me. IF you don't get through to them then they will wander down the wrong paths. sometimes God and parents have to get physical to get our attention. there is a difference between abuse and discipline: it is what inside your heart when you do the action. the action can be the same but if you do it out of love and not anger then I think you are acting as God treats us. I wouldn't spank anyone else's kids (thats their parents job) but I would do it to my own.
I think its better to punish their bodies now then have their souls thrown into Hell because they believe the lie that God love you too much to send you to Hell.
Crosses which line?i think theres a difference to useing a hand where a spank can be just a tap but that guy ramon saying to use whips and rods just crosses the line
What these tests show is only that Satan is abusive aggressive and violent. Tests have nothing to do with God. You can't fight Satan with mind games. As the rod is for the chastening of the flesh unto obedience, so is The Rod for chastening of the Spirit unto obedience. If you spare the Rod you spoil the child. And God does not deal with spoiled people.
The only one Good is God. Goodness will not get you into heaven. Obedience to Jesus Christ will.