Did Jesus ever tell us that we no longer need to keep the law of Moses?
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I repeated your own words back to you in sentence form. So you're not consistent.
But we can take your correction also.
So based on what you've said, aren't you now contradicting your entire argument regarding gentiles trying to keep even one of the laws "under their own power and understanding" (even though they have the Holy Spirit as a teacher) based on your understanding of galatians?
There are pages of posts here where you made it clear that's what you meant.
But we can take your correction also.
So based on what you've said, aren't you now contradicting your entire argument regarding gentiles trying to keep even one of the laws "under their own power and understanding" (even though they have the Holy Spirit as a teacher) based on your understanding of galatians?
There are pages of posts here where you made it clear that's what you meant.
I'm like Paul, I find those things difficult, they are still a burden for me... well not really a burden because I delight in the law, I just know I'm not capable of it nor am I expected to be capable of it.
This is why I question your abilities, I find it hard to believe that anyone can say they're able to obey all the commandments with ease when no one else outside of Jesus has been able to do so.
I would just like a straight answer, do you obey all the ten commandments every day of your life?
This is why I question your abilities, I find it hard to believe that anyone can say they're able to obey all the commandments with ease when no one else outside of Jesus has been able to do so.
I would just like a straight answer, do you obey all the ten commandments every day of your life?
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It's not matching the context of what Paul is saying, Post. Paul is saying, DON'T be quick to ask the condition of the food from folks who aren't where the reader is in faith yet. DON'T judge them or cause them to stumble.
If this what the intention of the council they would've said the same thing: DONT judge the gentiles who aren't where you are just yet in meat.
But that wasn't the intention of the council, as we read it's about performing works FOR SALVATION. The pharisees were putting an obstacle in front of SALVATION. An unnecessary burden.
The council ruled on the matter telling the gentiles "no physical circumcision", but what else they ARE to critically follow day by day as they learn more about Moses every Sabbath.
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Now I'm not sure if you received the notification but I'll ask it again here...
Is the law "not to eat meat with blood in it" - one of the laws the apostles instructed the gentiles to follow at that council - in the law of Moses?
If this what the intention of the council they would've said the same thing: DONT judge the gentiles who aren't where you are just yet in meat.
But that wasn't the intention of the council, as we read it's about performing works FOR SALVATION. The pharisees were putting an obstacle in front of SALVATION. An unnecessary burden.
The council ruled on the matter telling the gentiles "no physical circumcision", but what else they ARE to critically follow day by day as they learn more about Moses every Sabbath.
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Now I'm not sure if you received the notification but I'll ask it again here...
Is the law "not to eat meat with blood in it" - one of the laws the apostles instructed the gentiles to follow at that council - in the law of Moses?
See, there again, "like Paul" Brother, you have to put your walk between you and the Holy Spirit who will lead you to follow Jesus.
Even Paul says:
1Co 1:10-13 NIV I appeal to you, brothers, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all of you agree with one another so that there may be no divisions among you and that you may be perfectly united in mind and thought. (11) My brothers, some from Chloe's household have informed me that there are quarrels among you. (12) What I mean is this: One of you says, "I follow Paul"; another, "I follow Apollos"; another, "I follow Cephas"; still another, "I follow Christ." (13) Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Were you baptized into the name of Paul?
Follow Jesus' example, not Paul's.
Even Paul says:
1Co 1:10-13 NIV I appeal to you, brothers, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all of you agree with one another so that there may be no divisions among you and that you may be perfectly united in mind and thought. (11) My brothers, some from Chloe's household have informed me that there are quarrels among you. (12) What I mean is this: One of you says, "I follow Paul"; another, "I follow Apollos"; another, "I follow Cephas"; still another, "I follow Christ." (13) Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Were you baptized into the name of Paul?
Follow Jesus' example, not Paul's.
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Ya see Yahshua, these, and ones like these? Haven't grown spiritually, in over 2,000 YEARS! They are just as "barbaric" NOW, as "the gentiles" to whom the gospel was presented to 2,000 years ago!
They were "babes" 2,000 years ago? They are "babes" NOW!
It would "appear", they resist any "guidance" from the Father, as well, as the "gift" of the Holy spirit, which was "given" them by the Father!
Revelation 2
12 And to the angel of the church in Pergamos write; These things saith he which hath the sharp sword with two edges;
14 But I have a few things against thee, because thou hast there them that hold the doctrine of Balaam (mo money, mo money, mo money), who taught Balac to cast a stumblingblock before the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed unto idols, and to commit fornication.
15 So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the *Nicolaitanes, which thing I hate.
16 Repent; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth.
*The doctrine of the Nicolaitans appears to have been a form of antinomianism, which makes the fatal mistake that man can freely partake in sin because the Law of God is no longer binding. It held the truth on the gratuitous reckoning of righteousness; but supposed that a mere intellectual "belief" in this truth had a saving power.
I believe one may be more correct then not, in referring to these "churches of stone", as not Christ's Church.
Rather, the "Church of the Paulene Epistles."
They were "babes" 2,000 years ago? They are "babes" NOW!
It would "appear", they resist any "guidance" from the Father, as well, as the "gift" of the Holy spirit, which was "given" them by the Father!
Revelation 2
12 And to the angel of the church in Pergamos write; These things saith he which hath the sharp sword with two edges;
14 But I have a few things against thee, because thou hast there them that hold the doctrine of Balaam (mo money, mo money, mo money), who taught Balac to cast a stumblingblock before the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed unto idols, and to commit fornication.
15 So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the *Nicolaitanes, which thing I hate.
16 Repent; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth.
*The doctrine of the Nicolaitans appears to have been a form of antinomianism, which makes the fatal mistake that man can freely partake in sin because the Law of God is no longer binding. It held the truth on the gratuitous reckoning of righteousness; but supposed that a mere intellectual "belief" in this truth had a saving power.
I believe one may be more correct then not, in referring to these "churches of stone", as not Christ's Church.
Rather, the "Church of the Paulene Epistles."
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