Rich people out of touch

[Lanolin]

Something I noticed, which is only slightly starting to annoy me...wealthy people that dont have a clue how normal people live.

A few examples. Your treat, like going out or seeing a movie, is their cheap night.
Or they invite you somewhere far away and just assume you can get there.
They've never used public transport.
They make derogatory comments about homeless people but own three or more homes which stand empty half the time.
Constant talk about travel, consumer items and and property prices. Sorry I look at a house as roof over my head, not an investment or another addition to my property portfolio.

Maybe its true as Jesus showd in his parable of Lazarus and the rich man, theres a huge divide that cant be crossed. Sometimes it kinda makes you feel like you are a dog at the table of their conversations! The only relief is when they throw you some rich peoples crumbs.

 

[Lanolin]

The other day my sister, who lives on the other side of the world, and is probably way out of touch with my life, had just said to me what are you doing for your birthday and im like i dont know its next year. And she was like oh maybe we could meet somewhere (like have a holiday somehwere in the world) and im like nah (unless she wants to pay the airfare) she doesnt seem to understand the cost of travelling is not cheap from nz.

Whenever she comes over its like we have to drop everything and drive her around everywhere too. Or go out to expensive restaurants and other events practically every day she visits. Like she just cant just hang out at home and chill.

Im not complaining but just observing that she seems to be a bit oblivious to all the expensive things she does and assumes everyone else can keep up with her lifestyle.

 

[RickyZ]

Be careful. There are lots of rich people here who DO NOT LIKE having their love for money exposed as a wrong.

You could put up NOTHING but scripture on it, and they'll STILL argue with you as if they were your words.

I know, I've done it and received it.

 

[Lanolin]

I dont think anyone here is that rich. I once posted a thread asking if anyone had help, like live in nannies, maids, gardeners ...you know, actual servants, and nobody answered. Or maybe they didnt want to admit they paid someone to work for them.

When Jesus said to sell all you have to the rich young ruler, he just walked away, cos he couldnt give up his possessions but who can say if he did in the end or not. He couldnt keep holding on to them.

The thing is rich people can be charming and have lots of friends but they just live in such a bubble. And thry worry about things that are not even worth worrying about, like if their second or third car gets stolen and how much they can insure it for. They may want to save and preserve things and their possessions and properties. But they dont seem to care so much about other peoples souls.

I find it all bit heartless. Yes its nice to have the finer things in life, but if thats all it is, its really missing the point. In revelation Chapter 18 mystery babylon is described in such a way that its full of luxury goods and people are weeping cos all that is destroyed in one day. Nobody is really weeping over anyone whos died, but that the city is destroyed and the merchants cant get their ships to trade and buy merchandise anymore.

 

[GaryA]

By any chance is your sister looking for a husband...?










HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Just kidding.

(couldn't resist)

 

[Lanolin]

No she dont want to share her money. Why are you looking for a wife?

 

[calibob]

I dont think anyone here is that rich. I once posted a thread asking if anyone had help, like live in nannies, maids, gardeners ...you know, actual servants, and nobody answered. Or maybe they didnt want to admit they paid someone to work for them.

When Jesus said to sell all you have to the rich young ruler, he just walked away, cos he couldnt give up his possessions but who can say if he did in the end or not. He couldnt keep holding on to them.

The thing is rich people can be charming and have lots of friends but they just live in such a bubble. And thry worry about things that are not even worth worrying about, like if their second or third car gets stolen and how much they can insure it for. They may want to save and preserve things and their possessions and properties. But they dont seem to care so much about other peoples souls.

I find it all bit heartless. Yes its nice to have the finer things in life, but if thats all it is, its really missing the point. In revelation Chapter 18 mystery babylon is described in such a way that its full of luxury goods and people are weeping cos all that is destroyed in one day. Nobody is really weeping over anyone whos died, but that the city is destroyed and the merchants cant get their ships to trade and buy merchandise anymore.

You missed an aspect that dawned on me recently. If wages go up and more money goes into circulation it will stimulate a healthy inflation, Right?

The problem that as prices will raise quickly which will be push or in other words it's a draw or a tie for folks that live paycheck to paycheck. The problem it creates is that the buying power of our money will be reduced. That's OK for most of us. However, the minority that have more than a years wages in savings, will suffer the loss of buying power of the money they have been storing. In essence it unofficially devaluates their savings.

That's the last thing that the rich, influential, people that are in charge want. How if they can somehow crash the system in a way that forces prices to go down like 1929 the buying power of the money stored will escalate exponentially, wages will flat line or decrease and they will win.

 

[Lanolin]

You missed an aspect that dawned on me recently. If wages go up and more money goes into circulation it will stimulate a healthy inflation, Right?

The problem that as prices will raise quickly which will be push or in other words it's a draw or a tie for folks that live paycheck to paycheck. The problem it creates is that the buying power of our money will be reduced. That's OK for most of us. However, the minority that have more than a years wages in savings, will suffer the loss of buying power of the money they have been storing. In essence it unofficially devaluates their savings.

That's the last thing that the rich, influential, people that are in charge want. How if they can somehow crash the system in a way that forces prices to go down like 1929 the buying power of the money stored will escalate exponentially, wages will flat line or decrease and they will win.

Huh? Sorry they will win.,,what? What do you mean. I have no idea what you are talking about or getting at. I wasnt talking about raising wages. Or winning anything, just that rich people are out of touch.

Rich people dont earn wages, or even really salaries. They dont need to!

 

[calibob]

Huh? Sorry they will win.,,what? What do you mean. I have no idea what you are talking about or getting at. I wasnt talking about raising wages. Or winning anything, just that rich people are out of touch.

Rich people dont earn wages, or even really salaries. They dont need to!

I was talking about Rothchilds, Koch brothers, Walton family level rich. They stand to gain if they can manipulate the economy to crash like it did in 1929. So they can buy up everything they can for pennies on the dollar and turn us into their slaves. I didn't say you said it, I said you missed it. How else do you think the Antichrist and the Beast will take over, by magic? I'm sorry if that sounds sarcastic. It's what I expect to happen within this century.

 

[jb]

Walton family...

"John boy" Walton has always portrayed the Walton family as being poor!

 

[GaryA]

No she dont want to share her money. Why are you looking for a wife?

Only if it is the right one...!

My previous post was just an attempt at humor.

 

[calibob]

"John boy" Walton has always portrayed the Walton family as being poor!

The Wal Mart WALTONS.

 

[SpoonJuly]

I was talking about Rothchilds, Koch brothers, Walton family level rich. They stand to gain if they can manipulate the economy to crash like it did in 1929. So they can buy up everything they can for pennies on the dollar and turn us into their slaves. I didn't say you said it, I said you missed it. How else do you think the Antichrist and the Beast will take over, by magic? I'm sorry if that sounds sarcastic. It's what I expect to happen within this century.

In 1970 Sam Walton offered 300,000 shares of Walmart stock to the public at $16.50 a share.
If you had invested $1650 in this new Arkansas based retailer, that investment would be worth over $3,000,000,000 today.
I would bet that if anyone would have made that investment 49 years ago, their opinion of Walmart might be different.
A lot of folkes did invest and are rich as a result.

 

[SpoonJuly]

In 1970 Sam Walton offered 300,000 shares of Walmart stock to the public at $16.50 a share.
If you had invested $1650 in this new Arkansas based retailer, that investment would be worth over $3,000,000,000 today.
I would bet that if anyone would have made that investment 49 years ago, their opinion of Walmart might be different.
A lot of folkes did invest and are rich as a result.

I meant to add this---
Just because some made a small investment that made them rich does not necessarily make them evil people.
You might be surprised how many people you associate with are "rich".
You may never know how much that investment helps people to help others.
My point is that do not judge a person evil just because the Lord blessed him with riches.

 

[RickyZ]

But the lord didn't bless them with riches, the Waltons did

 

[SpoonJuly]

But the lord didn't bless them with riches, the Waltons did

The Waltons and other investers in Walmart got rich because they offered the consumer what they wanted at a price they could afford.
They also forced other retailers to become better.
They were forced to offer lower prices which helps low income folks.
I am not supporting the present Walton family, although most everyone who knew Sam Walton always spoke well of him.
But with any retailers, there are those who hate and those who love them.
There is good and bad.
If the consumer did not support them, they would not be the largest retailer in the world.

Just a question Ricky---
If a person invested in Walmart or any other company and got rich, does that make that person evil?

 

[Locoponydirtman]

Yea it's kind of weird how people just don't understand how for someone folks money is a bit shy.
So when you do travel to see folks, I don't want to go see every tourist trap in town or fancy eating establishment.
If I come to visit you, it's you I come to see. We can eat ham sandwiches and drink ice tea on your back porch.
If you come see me, likely we will cook on the grill, make stuff out of leather.
Back when I had horses, we would go trail riding out in the forest.

 

[Lanolin]

I dont have any idea who these people are am sorry. If they are in that statosphere of wealth, it doesnt automatically mean they out to make people their slaves, some just spend their money like water on frivolous things and arent really going all out to build empires. Or at least their spoilt children arent. Imagine growing up with a silver spoon in your mouth...you havent earned it, but you have it, so what are you going to do with it?

Its more those on their way up who are stomping on those below. But yea buying and selling is related to mark of the beast somehow as buying and selling is what pushes prices up or down and causes inflation.

I would just opt out of consumerism altogether. If all the banks closed tomorrow, Im sure that people could survive without money somehow if they had their heads screwed on correctly. It will only be those who have stake in their cashflow or markets that would be weeping, like all the people who you heard comitted suicide in the last crash.

 

[RickyZ]

The Waltons and other investers in Walmart got rich because they offered the consumer what they wanted at a price they could afford.
They also forced other retailers to become better.
They were forced to offer lower prices which helps low income folks.
I am not supporting the present Walton family, although most everyone who knew Sam Walton always spoke well of him.
But with any retailers, there are those who hate and those who love them.
There is good and bad.
If the consumer did not support them, they would not be the largest retailer in the world.

Just a question Ricky---
If a person invested in Walmart or any other company and got rich, does that make that person evil?

Depends on what they do with the money. Use it to help the less fortunate - an angel. Horde it and use it to make even more money - sinful.

 

[Lanolin]

I think if you have money then to show you dont love it, you give it away. It ought to be like a hot potato to pass it along to someone else.

The dog might get crumbs ok but the there are also rich people who spoil and pamper their dogs. Althougn there are probably the odd few that mistreat and abuse them as well. The only thing is when the wealthy treat their dogs better than people...

I dont know about the waltons I dont live in US. But its kinda like the way upper management treat their workers. There will always be the 'we're at the top' and youre below, upstairs, downstairs mentality.

Class distinctions might be abolished elswhere but theres always subtle ways in which the rich and priveliged just live in a world apart, totally oblivious to anyone who might be suffering or having a hard time making ends meet outside their world of comfort and ease.

I remember someone telling me that one time they forgot to bring their lunch and was out working and their boss was with them and it was lunchtime. So they stopped for a break and the worker of course had no lunch and there was nowhere nearby they could buy any. . And the boss was eating their own lunch but the coworker was going without. And their stomach was growling. But of course they didnt want to say anything or to beg, but the boss continued to eat his lunch and just not notice the co worker was not eating anything and hungry and probably couldnt work as hard for the rest of the afternoon cos they had no lunch.