Signs in the heavens and on the earth?

[louis]

In the Olivets, the Lord describes signs in the heavens, the earth, and the seas occurring during the end of the current age (Luke 21:25).
Men's hearts will fail them due to their perceiving that the environment is only going to get worse (Luke 21:26).
To me these signs appear like what is currently transpiring in the environment due to global warming, which is picking up speed, and according to the majority consensus will become significantly more severe.
The alternative perspective among many religious organizations is that the signs will be supernatural in nature.
So here is the question: If the current distress of nations with perplexity is due to increase as the environment continues to deteriorate as the scientific consensus claims; how then will we know the difference between any supposed supernatural signs in the heavens, the earth, and the sea, from those the scientific consensus already recognizes will occur due to mankind's destruction of the environment?

Luke 21:25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;
26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.

 

[TabinRivCA]

Also, there are those 'chem-trails' that are being spread all over the world. I notice them all over SoCal and when I asked the major in person what the white stuff was, (and we were standing right by a window watching a drone do this), he said 'he'd get back to me'. He didn't so when I called a long list of weather related places, they neither would give an answer. It makes me wonder who is behind it and what is the purpose that no one will say?
I've seen these white emissions online, just about all over the world. But, we should not be worried because Jesus warned us these things must happen and we have our prayers for protection, mercy, grace and favor.
It is sad to see the destruction and abuse going on but these things must happen for God's plan to play out. Faith in the Word helps big time. God bless.

 

[p_rehbein]

 

[JamOn]

Also, there are those 'chem-trails' that are being spread all over the world. I notice them all over SoCal and when I asked the major in person what the white stuff was, (and we were standing right by a window watching a drone do this), he said 'he'd get back to me'. He didn't so when I called a long list of weather related places, they neither would give an answer. It makes me wonder who is behind it and what is the purpose that no one will say?
I've seen these white emissions online, just about all over the world. But, we should not be worried because Jesus warned us these things must happen and we have our prayers for protection, mercy, grace and favor.
It is sad to see the destruction and abuse going on but these things must happen for God's plan to play out. Faith in the Word helps big time. God bless.

Chemtrails or contrails, chem trails is a conspiracy that the government is spraying chemicals.

 

[TabinRivCA]

Chemtrails or contrails, chem trails is a conspiracy that the government is spraying chemicals.

That's the conspiracy theory that nothing is happening. As I was driving into the next city, a drone that was right above me let out a brownish substance over a neighborhood. No one will tell anyone what it is. Brown exhaust fumes?
People might as well be oblivious to it since it keeps going. It's ridiculous to say they are exhaust fumes and usually they disperse clouds, greatly needed in CA.

 

[KJV1611]

Chemtrails or contrails, chem trails is a conspiracy that the government is spraying chemicals.

The government admits to chemtrails, they even say they are making the atmosphere more conductive for weather manipulation to control "global warming".

 

[JamOn]

The government admits to chemtrails, they even say they are making the atmosphere more conductive for weather manipulation to control "global warming".

Do you have any info on that, A site or something?

 

[JamOn]

That's the conspiracy theory that nothing is happening. As I was driving into the next city, a drone that was right above me let out a brownish substance over a neighborhood. No one will tell anyone what it is. Brown exhaust fumes?
People might as well be oblivious to it since it keeps going. It's ridiculous to say they are exhaust fumes and usually they disperse clouds, greatly needed in CA.

What kind of drone was it? Almost all most drones are electric, the military has some jet powered ones but kind of odd they would be flying over a neighborhood dumping brown fumes.

 

[JamOn]

Jets burning JP5 isn’t totally clean, but much of what you see about contrails is water vapor.

 

[iamsoandso]

There's 57,51 million acres of land on earth and then if they deduct whats mountains,desert,snow covered ect. there's about 16 million acres that is arable(arabilis,Latin/able to be plowed). Today there's about 7-8 billion people on earth at around 10 billion people there will not be enough arable land on earth to grow enough food to feed 10 billion people. In 1960 there were 3 billion in 1900 1.6 billion ect. https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/world-population-by-year/ ...

How much we destroy the planet with pollution is not a conspiracy I think in fact if one examined the world's population around 1919 about one third of the population died from pestilence,sword,famine and beast(fourth horseman) that is by war/ww1,illnesses/flu epidemic,HN51 swine flu,,starved because of not growing food because of war,,,beast hn51 mutated from humans to cattle to swine,birds ect. ,,,,,,,,,I'm surprised not many noticed the math and compared it to the fourth horseman.

 

[JamOn]

Study on cars vs jets. quote from the site.

In 1970, Sivak reports, it took 10,185 BTUs to move a person a mile in an airplane, compared with 5,067 BTUs to move a person a mile in a car—making flying twice as energy intensive as driving. But as the chart below shows, the ratio came down steadily. By 1985, airline travel consumed only 4,950 BTUs per passenger mile, less than half the 1970 amount. Car travel became more efficient, too, but not so dramatically. By 2000, airline travel (3,892 BTU per passenger mile) officially became greener than driving (3,926 BTU per person, per mile.) The trend has continued so that in 2010, flying burned just 2,691 BTU per passenger mile—an improvement of 74 percent since 1970. That was 43 percent better than driving the average car, which gets about 21.5 miles per gallon (4,218 BTU per passenger mile).* It was better than buses as well.

https://slate.com/business/2014/07/driving-vs-flying-which-is-more-harmful-to-the-environment.html

 

[JamOn]

There's 57,51 million acres of land on earth and then if they deduct whats mountains,desert,snow covered ect. there's about 16 million acres that is arable(arabilis,Latin/able to be plowed). Today there's about 7-8 billion people on earth at around 10 billion people there will not be enough arable land on earth to grow enough food to feed 10 billion people. In 1960 there were 3 billion in 1900 1.6 billion ect. https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/world-population-by-year/ ...

How much we destroy the planet with pollution is not a conspiracy I think in fact if one examined the world's population around 1919 about one third of the population died from pestilence,sword,famine and beast(fourth horseman) that is by war/ww1,illnesses/flu epidemic,HN51 swine flu,,starved because of not growing food because of war,,,beast hn51 mutated from humans to cattle to swine,birds ect. ,,,,,,,,,I'm surprised not many noticed the math and compared it to the fourth horseman.

The planet can’t sustain a 10 billion + population for ever, a possible sign could be when man starts eating man for food.

 

[KJV1611]

Do you have any info on that, A site or something?

Conspiracy websites probably have the info in a more searchable format but the CIA link and the Popular Science links below provides proof that the government is manipulating the weather and have been for a long time. Keep in mind this was released under the Freedom of Information Act so it is very old, probably from the '50s or '60s.

https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/search/site/weather modification

Here is another article from Popular Science.
https://www.popsci.com/operation-popeye-government-weather-vietnam-war/

Tons of information is available here:
https://carnicominstitute.org/wp/research-library-listing/

 

[iamsoandso]

The planet can’t sustain a 10 billion + population for ever, a possible sign could be when man starts eating man for food.

Sometime in the next 15 or so years earth wont sustain mankind at all...

 

[JamOn]

Conspiracy websites probably have the info in a more searchable format but the CIA link and the Popular Science links below provides proof that the government is manipulating the weather and have been for a long time. Keep in mind this was released under the Freedom of Information Act so it is very old, probably from the '50s or '60s.

https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/search/site/weather modification

Here is another article from Popular Science.
https://www.popsci.com/operation-popeye-government-weather-vietnam-war/

Tons of information is available here:
https://carnicominstitute.org/wp/research-library-listing/

That’s is interesting but isn’t that more about creating storms for military purposes than creating global warming or making the atmosphere unsuitable for humans.

 

[KJV1611]

That’s is interesting but isn’t that more about creating storms for military purposes than creating global warming or making the atmosphere unsuitable for humans.

This is what I said:

The government admits to chemtrails, they even say they are making the atmosphere more conductive for weather manipulation to control "global warming".

I didn't mean that they were creating global warming, I meant that they were trying to stop global warming with weather manipulation.

 

[JamOn]

This is what I said:

The government admits to chemtrails, they even say they are making the atmosphere more conductive for weather manipulation to control "global warming".

I didn't mean that they were creating global warming, I meant that they were trying to stop global warming with weather manipulation.

I see now my bust,

 

[JamOn]

Here’s a interesting take though the comparison was with a diesel car which the author didn’t state which does produce less co2 than a conventional gas. 336 diesel cars equal one plane co2 emissions but no doubt there is way more cars running than planes. but cars and planes are not at the top as far as emissions producers. Not at the top but deforestation also causes raise in co2.

https://www.sciencefocus.com/future-technology/how-many-cars-equal-the-co2-emissions-of-one-plane/

 

[TabinRivCA]

This is what I said:

The government admits to chemtrails, they even say they are making the atmosphere more conductive for weather manipulation to control "global warming".

I didn't mean that they were creating global warming, I meant that they were trying to stop global warming with weather manipulation.

Well, if that's the case, they've been doing it for yrs and I sure do 't see any signs of change for the better.
Also, there is an ex-govt lady who was in charge of checking toxins in the air, and she claims she tested and found some bad stuff on the foliage and soil. It's on YT. But who's going to believe someone putting themselves out there and who got fired.

 

[KJV1611]

Well, if that's the case, they've been doing it for yrs and I sure do 't see any signs of change for the better.
Also, there is an ex-govt lady who was in charge of checking toxins in the air, and she claims she tested and found some bad stuff on the foliage and soil. It's on YT. But who's going to believe someone putting themselves out there and who got fired.

The comment i made was the government reason for manipulating the weather. I don’t believe their doing it to stop global warming. I believe they are geo-engineering the atmosphere, the earth, the water and the food supply for their agenda. If what they do makes us sick or kills us they don’t care.

Who knows why they do what they do but they don’t have our best interest in mind and could care less what happens to us.