Did Jesus ever tell us that we no longer need to keep the law of Moses?
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It may not be all inclusive in detail, yet Moses said what he gave is the standard of morality and that it is objective, not subjective.
If Jesus is the Word of God (law and the testimony) manifested in the flesh, and the Word of God is the standard of morality, then to be freed unto Jesus/Word of God is to be freed from the bondage of evil, regardless.
If Jesus is the Word of God (law and the testimony) manifested in the flesh, and the Word of God is the standard of morality, then to be freed unto Jesus/Word of God is to be freed from the bondage of evil, regardless.
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It would make sense to do a clarification. But if I said they did not reject first advent, people would criticize saying Israel rejected when He went to the cross. In a way that assertion would be correct and most Christians think Israel was toast as soon as Jesus was crucified so trying to add that detail would just muddy the waters. I prefer to try and move the ball downfield and jump to the book of Acts. It`s all an effort to break through the cloud of indoctrination and get somebody to see what is going on as the New Testament unfolds.
“But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel; And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams: And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy: And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke: The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and notable day of the Lord come: And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved. “ (Acts 2:16-21)
"Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord. And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you: Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.” (Acts 3:19-21)
“But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel; And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams: And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy: And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke: The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and notable day of the Lord come: And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved. “ (Acts 2:16-21)
"Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord. And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you: Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.” (Acts 3:19-21)
Well, I guess we would disagree that keeping the spirit of the law means you automatically keep the letter of the law.
I'm not sure if the spirit of the law about eating pigs is to take care of your temple, as in to be physically healthy. The spirit of the law may be to be separate from the ravenous, greedy people around you. A reasonable amount of pork probably won't hurt you, but a large amount of milk, especially if you are lactose intolerant as much of the world is, probably will hurt you.
I've mentioned marrying your dead brother's widow. I think part of the reason for that his to take care people who need help, as a widow would need in ancient Israel. But a single adult woman in the USA might not be helpless, in many cases she might be able to earn more money than the average man.
I'm not sure if the spirit of the law about eating pigs is to take care of your temple, as in to be physically healthy. The spirit of the law may be to be separate from the ravenous, greedy people around you. A reasonable amount of pork probably won't hurt you, but a large amount of milk, especially if you are lactose intolerant as much of the world is, probably will hurt you.
I've mentioned marrying your dead brother's widow. I think part of the reason for that his to take care people who need help, as a widow would need in ancient Israel. But a single adult woman in the USA might not be helpless, in many cases she might be able to earn more money than the average man.
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I like to remain clear on the details concerning where Israel was when Yahshua walked the earth. They were scattered and only a remnant of Judah and Benjamin were in Palestine. So to say "Israel" rejected Him is to call Judah and Benjamin Israel and they were not referred to as Israel. Don't want to confuse anything, just clarify.
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I'm wondering about the idea of not eating scavenger animals based on the dietary laws. I believe chickens are a clean food, but I think they are scavengers, too. So what's happening?
"Chickens left to their own devices will just as happily nibble on grasses , weeds , herbs , flowers , grains, seeds, nuts, veggies, berries and fruit as they will gobble up all the bugs and insects, larvae, spiders, worms, grubs, and even small rodents, birds, snakes, lizards and frogs they can catch.
It's important to note that chickens will eat both "live" and dead meat. While some carnivores only eat fresh meat that they kill, and some like vultures, hyenas, and other scavengers mainly eat carrion, chickens will eat both."
https://www.fresheggsdaily.com/2017/11/chickens-are-omnivores-not-vegetarians.html?m=1
So for my own experiences, I used to eat mostly vegetarian. That was partly because if you don't cook meat, keeping the kitchen clean is a lot easier. but also I didn't like the general way that animals were treated in the meat industry.
But then about 8 years ago, I developed some kind of digestion issue. Many kinds of foods brought on tummy aches. One of the few foods that didn't cause any problems was beef.
Out of respect for the cow, which in part I see in the commandment about not muzzling an ox while it is to threshing, I often eat the fat along with the rest of the meat. I think that's probably contrary to the dietary laws, which talk about not eating the fatty portions.
But if I don't eat a good bit of the fat, it's hard to get enough calories throughout the day eating just the lean meat.
Did you want more details?
"Chickens left to their own devices will just as happily nibble on grasses , weeds , herbs , flowers , grains, seeds, nuts, veggies, berries and fruit as they will gobble up all the bugs and insects, larvae, spiders, worms, grubs, and even small rodents, birds, snakes, lizards and frogs they can catch.
It's important to note that chickens will eat both "live" and dead meat. While some carnivores only eat fresh meat that they kill, and some like vultures, hyenas, and other scavengers mainly eat carrion, chickens will eat both."
https://www.fresheggsdaily.com/2017/11/chickens-are-omnivores-not-vegetarians.html?m=1
So for my own experiences, I used to eat mostly vegetarian. That was partly because if you don't cook meat, keeping the kitchen clean is a lot easier. but also I didn't like the general way that animals were treated in the meat industry.
But then about 8 years ago, I developed some kind of digestion issue. Many kinds of foods brought on tummy aches. One of the few foods that didn't cause any problems was beef.
Out of respect for the cow, which in part I see in the commandment about not muzzling an ox while it is to threshing, I often eat the fat along with the rest of the meat. I think that's probably contrary to the dietary laws, which talk about not eating the fatty portions.
But if I don't eat a good bit of the fat, it's hard to get enough calories throughout the day eating just the lean meat.
Did you want more details?
Like so many "teachers" of the law before you there are so many errors in your original premise it is hard to know where to start in explaining how badly
I know I wasn't mean. But I was about to be.
And I stopped. Because I know that you and DeighAnn don't comprehend what you are saying.
In a way you are kind of correct. No one can come to Christ unless the Father draws them.
But in a way you are totally wrong. Israel has been ready for Christ for thousands and thousands of years.
Its funny that you use the word ignorant. Either you haven't looked in a mirror or you don't know what that word means...
I know I wasn't mean. But I was about to be.
And I stopped. Because I know that you and DeighAnn don't comprehend what you are saying.
In a way you are kind of correct. No one can come to Christ unless the Father draws them.
But in a way you are totally wrong. Israel has been ready for Christ for thousands and thousands of years.
Its funny that you use the word ignorant. Either you haven't looked in a mirror or you don't know what that word means...
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Do you have any suggestions as to why Acts 3 says the following? [see also Acts 2:36,22,10,14; 3:17,19; 4:10-11, etc] :
12 But having seen it, Peter answered to the people: “Men of Israel, why do you wonder at this? Or why do you look intently on us as if by our own power or godliness we have made him to walk?
13 The God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified His servant Jesus, whom indeed you betrayed and disowned in the presence of Pilate, that one having adjudged to release Him. 14 But you denied the Holy and Righteous One and requested a murderer to be granted to you. 15 And you killed the Author of life, whom God has raised up out from the dead, whereof we are witnesses.
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12 But having seen it, Peter answered to the people: “Men of Israel, why do you wonder at this? Or why do you look intently on us as if by our own power or godliness we have made him to walk?
13 The God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified His servant Jesus, whom indeed you betrayed and disowned in the presence of Pilate, that one having adjudged to release Him. 14 But you denied the Holy and Righteous One and requested a murderer to be granted to you. 15 And you killed the Author of life, whom God has raised up out from the dead, whereof we are witnesses.
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Technically? "Lamb slaughtering", changed from "outward sacrificing's", to "spiritual sacrifices." That is, if your "stones" be lively.
1 Peter 2
5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.
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1. First and foremost, appeal the stone fallacy, or you're just lazy.
2. My "original premise" is known as the moral argument from William Lane Craig in arguing for the existence of God. Are you an atheist?
3. Let's grant I am a teacher of the law. And seeing that the law, or standard, being spoken of here is God's; according to what standard do you conclude that God's standard of morality is erroneous?
2. My "original premise" is known as the moral argument from William Lane Craig in arguing for the existence of God. Are you an atheist?
3. Let's grant I am a teacher of the law. And seeing that the law, or standard, being spoken of here is God's; according to what standard do you conclude that God's standard of morality is erroneous?
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Gods standard of morality is this
Do you love god with all your heart mind and soul, and your neighbor as yourself
If at any moment in your life, the answer in your thinking is no, you are in danger of sin, even to the point of knowing to do something god wants, but refusing to do it, because you are putting your own needs above others, and refusing to trust god to supply all your needs,
The law is a good starting point, but one can obey the law, yet still be a sinner,
Do you love god with all your heart mind and soul, and your neighbor as yourself
If at any moment in your life, the answer in your thinking is no, you are in danger of sin, even to the point of knowing to do something god wants, but refusing to do it, because you are putting your own needs above others, and refusing to trust god to supply all your needs,
The law is a good starting point, but one can obey the law, yet still be a sinner,