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Hevosmies

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I couldn't find Regenerated or regenerating in my bible, but in regard to your discussion, it can happen on 3 levels. Justification which is instant and by faith. Sanctification, which takes time but is through faith in Christ. And glorification, which will be instant but future and through faith in Jesus also. Being transformed and being born again is a wonderful gift that Christ wants to give us all.
Regeneration is in Titus 3:5 and it simply means the same thing as born again, quickened, made alive.
 
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notice people, right here, is a clear admission of salvation proved by good works.

salvation by grace, through faith, for good works.

not proved. not instant. FOR . a open word. proved by. instant. closed words.

so, I am moving on. this is all I need to see. just salvation by works , nothing new, same old man-made teaching trash.
If you three read salvation proved by works in the post GB9 replied to, you need glasses

@eternally-grateful already tried to pin this one and was soundly refuted four times. Ask @Rosemaryx
 

Lightskin

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Look @Lightskin

Regeneration is a separate conversation from salvation?!! 🤣🤣 where does he get this stuff

And notice it is GB, not me that is talking about maintenance. He said all stay saved as long as they believe. That’s maintenance. So maybe you have him and I confused 😉
Mac, I’ve grown to like you which is extraordinary considering our exchanges from less than one week ago, but I must ask, why are so many folks, including me, confused about your views?
 
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Mac, I’ve grown to like you which is extraordinary considering our exchanges from less than one week ago, but I must ask, why are so many folks, including me, confused about your views?
Because most of them don’t understand regeneration. This has been demonstrated by several people today

GB9, everyone who agreed with GB9, TMS. None knew about regeneration

Several said no such thing as being spiritually dead.

One said “what is regeneration, being saved again?”

Another said regeneration is a different conversation than salvation.

No excuse for continuing to be ignorant of regeneration it has been explained myself and others

If people don’t even understand the milk of the Word, yeah, it will be hard to understand my posts.

People do not know Bible these days. That’s why
 
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Because most of them don’t understand regeneration. This has been demonstrated by several people today

GB9, everyone who agreed with GB9, TMS. None knew about regeneration

Several said no such thing as being spiritually dead.

One said “what is regeneration, being saved again?”

Another said regeneration is a different conversation than salvation.

No excuse for continuing to be ignorant of regeneration it has been explained myself and others

If people don’t even understand the milk of the Word, yeah, it will be hard to understand my posts.

People do not know Bible these days. That’s why
Plus GB9 said saved as long as we believe, and you said I was talking about maintaining salvation, even though I said at least 50 times that I do not believe we are saved or kept or anything else by works

MANY People here don’t know the most elementary teachings in the Bible. See previous post.

I think some have been indoctrinated instead of being taught by God
 
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Because most of them don’t understand regeneration. This has been demonstrated by several people today

GB9, everyone who agreed with GB9, TMS. None knew about regeneration

Several said no such thing as being spiritually dead.

One said “what is regeneration, being saved again?”

Another said regeneration is a different conversation than salvation.

No excuse for continuing to be ignorant of regeneration it has been explained myself and others

If people don’t even understand the milk of the Word, yeah, it will be hard to understand my posts.

People do not know Bible these days. That’s why
It goes way deeper than this my friend
 
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Plus GB9 said saved as long as we believe, and you said I was talking about maintaining salvation, even though I said at least 50 times that I do not believe we are saved or kept or anything else by works

MANY People here don’t know the most elementary teachings in the Bible. See previous post.

I think some have been indoctrinated instead of being taught by God
Same can be said of you

People do not take kindly to your lordship salvation, and you have said things in the past which could suggest you believe in works, and when people, ring those things up, it usually did not go well

Your attitude is the other things which rubs people wrong, it is why i stopped paying attention, i just opened up to see what lightskin was trying to say
 
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Same can be said of you

People do not take kindly to your lordship salvation, and you have said things in the past which could suggest you believe in works, and when people, ring those things up, it usually did not go well

Your attitude is the other things which rubs people wrong, it is why i stopped paying attention, i just opened up to see what lightskin was trying to say
You tried to prove your accusations of me, and that did not go well for you. I gave you a chance to produce one post to back up the accusations, and you FAILED.

@Rosemaryx is my winess
 
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Same can be said of you

People do not take kindly to your lordship salvation, and you have said things in the past which could suggest you believe in works, and when people, ring those things up, it usually did not go well

Your attitude is the other things which rubs people wrong, it is why i stopped paying attention, i just opened up to see what lightskin was trying to say
Produce one post from me that says I teach works to save or maintain salvation. I guess you forgot that you FAILED miserably wen @Rosemaryx called you on it🤣
 
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It goes way deeper than this my friend
it does go way deeper. That is why it is APPALLING that people don’t know about spiritual death and being raised to spiritual life

I liked several of your posts about spiritual death Andy regeneration, and now you are fighting with me on the same issue. It can only mean one thing. You didn’t read my posts. Well read this! Proverbs 18;13
 
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You tried to prove your accusations of me, and that did not go well for you. I gave you a chance to produce one post to back up the accusations, and you FAILED.

@Rosemaryx is my winess
Whatever, this is another thing about you, you are so quick to defend yourself you can not even have a normal conversation

The only thing i accused you of was saying something about excusing sin, and i proved it with your very post,

Am i wrong for removing you from ignore again? Am i wasting my time? Or can you act with some respect,
 
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Produce one post from me that says I teach works to save or maintain salvation. I guess you forgot that you FAILED miserably wen @Rosemaryx called you on it🤣
I said you have said some things that appear to others to say you believe this

You can not even read my words right,

This is your other issue,

Stop trying to defend yourself and for once listen to what people say
 
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it does go way deeper. That is why it is APPALLING that people don’t know about spiritual death and being raised to spiritual life

I liked several of your posts about spiritual death Andy regeneration, and now you are fighting with me on the same issue. It can only mean one thing. You didn’t read my posts
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This dude can not take constructive critisism,

He attacks everyone who even suggests he may have an issue

I showed that i believe it goes deeper than this, and he can’t handle it.

@Lightskin maybe you are seeing why people can not have a discussion with him?
 
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Whatever, this is another thing about you, you are so quick to defend yourself you can not even have a normal conversation

The only thing i accused you of was saying something about excusing sin, and i proved it with your very post,

Am i wrong for removing you from ignore again? Am i wasting my time? Or can you act with some respect,
You accused me of legalism and false gospel and tried three times to prove it. Also you accused me of saying you and DC excuse sin in a post that you replied to that said NO SUCH THING

I could care less if you put me on ignore, but if you don’t read my posts, at least have the integrity to not respond to what you did not read.
 
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This dude can not take constructive critisism,

He attacks everyone who even suggests he may have an issue

I showed that i believe it goes deeper than this, and he can’t handle it.

@Lightskin maybe you are seeing why people can not have a discussion with him?
You are the one who has been attacking me with accusations, false gospel, legalism etc

A criticism must be true to be constructive. So show me where I err. Produce ONE post of mine that is not scriptural, and if I cannot defend it, then you can Make your claims

You said it goes deeper, but you cannot say why. Because you can’t produce one link where I said what you claimed I said

Anyone can google regeneration and see what it means. It not my fault people attack what they don’t understand
 
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This dude can not take constructive critisism,

He attacks everyone who even suggests he may have an issue

I showed that i believe it goes deeper than this, and he can’t handle it.

@Lightskin maybe you are seeing why people can not have a discussion with him?
Yes, I’m supposed to be your punching bag of accusations when you cannot produce ONE post that shows any false doctrine that I have been accused of. You already tried and failed
 
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You accused me of legalism
I said you come across as legslistic, i did not accuse you of anything thats what lordship people do, the come across as legalisted, i know i was ine most of my life

and false gospel and tried three times to prove it. Also you accused me of saying you and DC excuse sin in a post that you replied to that said NO SUCH THING
I said i think you have done stuff if you have not then you have nothing to worry about, now do you?

I could care less if you put me on ignore, but if you don’t read my posts, at least have the integrity to not respond to what you did not read.
Your certainly about to go back there,