Not By Works
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I don't want to talk about this, you keep bringing it up.
I'm just waiting around to see if @dcontroversal will own up to his Hebrew blunder and possibly recant his ridiculous statements.
I'm just waiting around to see if @dcontroversal will own up to his Hebrew blunder and possibly recant his ridiculous statements.
Amen....I copied verbatim from bible hub amd like most heretical teachers he cannot even acknowledge the truth and still continues to peddle that Jesus went to Hell even though Jesus was clear with the thief where they were going.....PARADISE.......anwser a fool in his folly hey....!!
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Hahahhaahhah You have that right brother......he makes me think of the preachers and deacons I have heard say....Paul taught out of the King James bible or if the King James bible was good enough for Jesus and Paul.....blah blah blah.....a King Jimmy worshipper cannot possibly accept the truth of the original languages and much less use the Common sense God gave a goose with honesty and context to embrace truth.....
You didn’t answer my question. Those are the same Hebrew words and I’m asking you why is one paradise and the other hell?
The same Hebrew word liš-’ō-wl that was used in Psalm 16:10 is also used in Psalm 49:14.
Here it is rendered as "the grave".
This is the same place Jesus went in Psalm 16:10.
Is this grave, where death is feeding on them and their beauty is consumed from their dwelling, is this Paradise?
Psa 49:14 Like sheep they are laid in the grave; death shall feed on them; and the upright shall have dominion over them in the morning; and their beauty shall consume in the grave from their dwelling.
Psalm 16:10
HEB: תַעֲזֹ֣ב נַפְשִׁ֣י לִשְׁא֑וֹל לֹֽא־ תִתֵּ֥ן
NAS: my soul to Sheol; Nor
KJV: my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer
INT: abandon my soul to Sheol Nor allow
Psalm 31:17
HEB: רְ֝שָׁעִ֗ים יִדְּמ֥וּ לִשְׁאֽוֹל׃
NAS: let them be silent in Sheol.
KJV: [and] let them be silent in the grave.
INT: the wicked them be silent Sheol
Psalm 49:14
HEB: כַּצֹּ֤אן ׀ לִֽשְׁא֣וֹל שַׁתּוּ֮ מָ֤וֶת
NAS: they are appointed for Sheol; Death
KJV: they are laid in the grave; death
INT: sheep Sheol are appointed Death
The same Hebrew word liš-’ō-wl that was used in Psalm 16:10 is also used in Psalm 49:14.
Here it is rendered as "the grave".
This is the same place Jesus went in Psalm 16:10.
Is this grave, where death is feeding on them and their beauty is consumed from their dwelling, is this Paradise?
Psa 49:14 Like sheep they are laid in the grave; death shall feed on them; and the upright shall have dominion over them in the morning; and their beauty shall consume in the grave from their dwelling.
Psalm 16:10
HEB: תַעֲזֹ֣ב נַפְשִׁ֣י לִשְׁא֑וֹל לֹֽא־ תִתֵּ֥ן
NAS: my soul to Sheol; Nor
KJV: my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer
INT: abandon my soul to Sheol Nor allow
Psalm 31:17
HEB: רְ֝שָׁעִ֗ים יִדְּמ֥וּ לִשְׁאֽוֹל׃
NAS: let them be silent in Sheol.
KJV: [and] let them be silent in the grave.
INT: the wicked them be silent Sheol
Psalm 49:14
HEB: כַּצֹּ֤אן ׀ לִֽשְׁא֣וֹל שַׁתּוּ֮ מָ֤וֶת
NAS: they are appointed for Sheol; Death
KJV: they are laid in the grave; death
INT: sheep Sheol are appointed Death
And I already gave you a SOLID BIBLICAL ANSWER by the words of Jesus in Luke 16 and his words to the thief and freaking context......and too be fully honest.....DO NOT engage me....or GO MAKE YOUR OWN false thread based upon the worship of your Anglican transliteration....I cannot engage people that are dishonest with the text, verbiage, context anymore because it peeves me off and then I get raked over the coals for calling a spade a spade.....when you can embrace the truth, context and the words of Jesus engage me...until then I am not going to engage a man that bows down to an Anglican bible while rejecting the truth and context to argue false points....this is my last reply to whay you are peddling....!!
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Are you not able to answer a simple question? You're a Hebrew expert aren't you... this should be simple but you wont touch it. You can say King Jimmy all you want but even bibles that use SHEOL use SHEOL in both places. The problem is that you can't tell us why they did it because you DENY that Christ went to SHEOL and you can't fabricate a Hebrew Language myth to cover your rear.
Why don't you try to help those people instead of bashing, belittling and making fun of them like you do everybody who disagrees with you?
I don't believe in works salvation.... you don't see me treating them like they're sub-human just because they don't understand something that God allowed me to understand.
Can you answer this question without bashing, belittling and making fun of me? I think not.
I don't believe in works salvation.... you don't see me treating them like they're sub-human just because they don't understand something that God allowed me to understand.
Can you answer this question without bashing, belittling and making fun of me? I think not.
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It came from the Greek PAGANS. Not exactly a Christian term. Even they had enough sense to know it was hell lol.
Hades noun
Ha·des | \ ˈhā-(ˌ)dēz
Definition of Hades
1 : the Greek god of the underworld
2 : the underground abode of the dead in Greek mythology
3 : sheol
4 often not capitalized : hell sense 1a
Hades noun
Ha·des | \ ˈhā-(ˌ)dēz
Definition of Hades
1 : the Greek god of the underworld
2 : the underground abode of the dead in Greek mythology
3 : sheol
4 often not capitalized : hell sense 1a
WRONG!
Psalm 16:10 (HCSB)
10 For You will not abandon me to Sheol [ A Hebrew word for either the Grave, or the Realm of the Dead.]; You will not allow Your Faithful One to see decay.
Isaiah 5:14 (HCSB)
14 Therefore Sheol [ A Hebrew word for either the Grave, or the Realm of the Dead.] enlarges its throat and opens wide its enormous jaws, and down go Zion’s dignitaries, her masses, her crowds, and those who carouse in her!