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I believe whatever the greek or english word hell, tartarus is there, the following sentences explain clearly what place its talking about:

CHAINS OF DARKNESS, to be reserved unto judgment.

I take that to mean, they are in the abyss, sort of like in JAIL(hell), waiting to be sentenced, and the final destination is the LAKE OF FIRE.
I'm trying to think if there is any place in the bible that mentions fallen angels or demons being in the same place at the same time. Do you of any verses like that off the top of your head?
 
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Posted several days ago...

the issue is this- you think ( wrongly) that regeneration means one starts instantly bearing fruit ( and we know how the fruit thing went for you.partial quote
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂.
 

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I'm trying to think if there is any place in the bible that mentions fallen angels or demons being in the same place at the same time. Do you of any verses like that off the top of your head?
Now that you brought it up I cant think of any actually. The demons are still active here on earth.

I believe the demons are the spirits of those NEPHILIM giants that died in the flood. But thats just me, I got 0 evidence whatsoever as to where demons come from but I heard a preacher preach that and it made sense.

If anyone knows scripturally where did demons come from IM ALL EARS.

Let me know if you find a verse that mentions both of them in the same place at the same time. I know thats where they WILL BE in the lake of fire, for sure!
 
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He quoted you bro, he gotchu there. Thats some WEEEIRD teaching that nobody is ever heard of. STRAIGHT UP

No dishonesty he showed the quote, hows that dishonest everyone can read the quote no matter how he "embellished" it. WHO EVEN KNOWS what the word embellished means. thats the real story here.

And I dont care how dishonest people are or how evil, I dont roll with snitches NOR snitching under NO circumstances thats how we do it, offline and online. Why'd you want him to get banned if you two agree on salvation you should be brothers instead of enemies.
Im fine with not engaging if you wish I can whip out the IGNORE function (instead of reporting and trying to get you banned), I dont deal with snitches, thats what we DO know. Im not in no cult of DC where I have to back up some weird teaching i dont believe in!

I hope you and KJV reconcile one of these days, you DO agree on the salvation part so you SHOULD. God bless you and hopefully you stop trying to get brothers banned on christian chat. thats :sick: he didnt even call you no names or nothing.
He did not quote what @dcontroversal wrote.

There is NO "cult".... that is a pejorative thing to state.

And again "snitching" is not the appropriate word either.... it is "reporting" and it is there for a reason.
 
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Now that you brought it up I cant think of any actually. The demons are still active here on earth.

I believe the demons are the spirits of those NEPHILIM giants that died in the flood. But thats just me, I got 0 evidence whatsoever as to where demons come from but I heard a preacher preach that and it made sense.

If anyone knows scripturally where did demons come from IM ALL EARS.

Let me know if you find a verse that mentions both of them in the same place at the same time. I know thats where they WILL BE in the lake of fire, for sure!
Demons are fallen angels
 

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He did not quote what @dcontroversal wrote.

There is NO "cult".... that is a pejorative thing to state.

And again "snitching" is not the appropriate word either.... it is "reporting" and it is there for a reason.
I saw the quote! I use that word cause thats the official GHETTOdictionary definition of TELLING ON, REPORTING, etc. I dont like that at all. I know that function exists on forums but I hate that. If y'all wanna roll like that thats on yall

I used the word cult because thats what cults do, agree with everything their leader says, and I said im in NO SUCH situation that I should pretend to agree if i dont!

But thats a thing of yesterday its water under the bridge, LETS drop this and keep going. We went many pages on it. I wont be responding on that topic no more. WHO CARES.
 
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I have not been following the thread all the way so perhaps I missed it where you went through these points. I love the way you made these points into a list with spaces in between by the way. 🙂
I usually try to do that and teach the same way.......1.5 houra every Sunday to many neighbors from my community...
 
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so, are you having trouble getting others to play with you, so , you want me to come and engage with you?

nah, think i'll pass.
I have gotten plenty of replies to my posts about Hades and other things. Whatever gave you the idea that I NEEDED you to engage with me.

Just showing that you were the FIRST one to recently bring up things from months ago, and then you "like" the post that says we should'nt do that. Say but don't do is you.
 

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Demons are fallen angels
Im getting some WEIRD error, but im trying to make a TOPIC of this, a separate one where we can discuss this. ITS AN INTERESTING TOPIC

"Oops! We ran into some problems. Please try again later. More error details may be in the browser console. " Thats what it says WHAT!
 
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He quoted you bro, he gotchu there. Thats some WEEEIRD teaching that nobody is ever heard of. STRAIGHT UP

No dishonesty he showed the quote, hows that dishonest everyone can read the quote no matter how he "embellished" it. WHO EVEN KNOWS what the word embellished means. thats the real story here.

And I dont care how dishonest people are or how evil, I dont roll with snitches NOR snitching under NO circumstances thats how we do it, offline and online. Why'd you want him to get banned if you two agree on salvation you should be brothers instead of enemies.
Im fine with not engaging if you wish I can whip out the IGNORE function (instead of reporting and trying to get you banned), I dont deal with snitches, thats what we DO know. Im not in no cult of DC where I have to back up some weird teaching i dont believe in!

I hope you and KJV reconcile one of these days, you DO agree on the salvation part so you SHOULD. God bless you and hopefully you stop trying to get brothers banned on christian chat. thats :sick: he didnt even call you no names or nothing.
He got nothing pal and you stood with evil...end of story...YOU PULL UP A QUOTE saying I SAID GOD SACRIFICED BABIES SO JESUS COULD COME......AND THAT is what started the while deceitful debacle.....the bible teaches guilt by association.....and that is where you stand.....and no where did I try to get him banned......

I suggest the story about Korah for you......that is exactly what you did!

You stood with evil!!
 
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h. And.....another truth argued...SOME MAY TAKE YEARS TO PRODUCE BASED UPON THE LEVEL OF TEACHING AND OR APPLICATION OF THE WORD.....
I'm glad you modified your position and corrected it. I totally agree with this point, though I think it is an unfortunate truth. The fact that it MAY take SOME years to bear fruit is not because God intends it to be that way. It is based on things on our end. Failure to teach and failure of those who are taught to apply the Word. You said it well there.
 
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Your funny man,

People twist what others say so much its getting unbearable
KJV1611 quoted him WORD FOR WORD. And his interpretation of what DC said was basically resaying what DC said word for word, too.

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My view....they are the train of the Lord and represent the wave offering given by JESUS along with himself before the throne.

144,000 perfect, unblemished Jewish martyred males in the place of JESUS <---the cream of the "wheat" crop if there ever was one.
Ok, I'll repeat it again lol.

DCON said "they are the train of the Lord and represent the wave offering given by JESUS along with himself ".

I can only interpret that one way, the dead babies were THE TRAIN of the Lord and represent the wave offering GIVEN BY JESUS along with JESUS himself.

He is saying that JESUS gave the wave offering to God.... the dead babies REPRESENT the wave offering.

What do you think he meant?
KJV1611 quoted him WORD FOR WORD. And his interpretation of what DC said was basically resaying what DC said word for word, too.
 
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so, are you having trouble getting others to play with you, so , you want me to come and engage with you?

nah, think i'll pass.
You're a really funny guy, dude! :LOL: I have pages of replies from yesterday. I don't want you to engage with me either. Just showing that you are the one who opened a can of worms from months ago.
 
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KJV1611 quoted him WORD FOR WORD. And his interpretation of what DC said was basically resaying what DC said word for word, too.





KJV1611 quoted him WORD FOR WORD. And his interpretation of what DC said was basically resaying what DC said word for word, too.
Thanks for for standing up for me Mac, I appriciate it, but some people can't see past what they want to see.
 
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He got nothing pal and you stood with evil...end of story...YOU PULL UP A QUOTE saying I SAID GOD SACRIFICED BABIES SO JESUS COULD COME......AND THAT is what started the while deceitful debacle.....the bible teaches guilt by association.....and that is where you stand.....and no where did I try to get him banned......

I suggest the story about Korah for you......that is exactly what you did!

You stood with evil!!
Are you calling me evil? I don't care one way or the other but I just want to be sure I'm understanding you right.
 
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Thanks for for standing up for me Mac, I appriciate it, but some people can't see past what they want to see.
you hit the nail right on the head.

I don't think DC was saying "God sacrificed babies", but you stated him fairly and accurately when you said "they were a wave offering who died in Jesus' place". That's exactly what DC said. It's been reposted. They chose not to see it. It's like bias covers their eyes sometimes.

But DC is like a superhero around here and can do no wrong. Even when he calls people names, quote people as saying things they didnt say, and brings up a misunderstanding (on his part) between us that happened months ago.
 
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Are you calling me evil? I don't care one way or the other but I just want to be sure I'm understanding you right.
Yes he is. DC is the judge round these parts, pardner, and if he don't take a likin' to you, you're in deep trouble. I suggest you get out of Dodge before Sundown, because a lynching party is coming for you...just kidding.:D
 
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He got nothing pal and you stood with evil...end of story...YOU PULL UP A QUOTE saying I SAID GOD SACRIFICED BABIES SO JESUS COULD COME......AND THAT is what started the while deceitful debacle.....the bible teaches guilt by association.....and that is where you stand.....and no where did I try to get him banned......

I suggest the story about Korah for you......that is exactly what you did!

You stood with evil!!
As Lightskin once said to me..."you seem kind of defensive, there".