If Perchance Catholicism Is Mistaken
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Did God tell you personally which Bible he wrote?
Or do you believe that he told someone else, and they told you?
These are not rhetorical questions. Some people do essentially believe that God told them personally that a particular set of books, or even a particular translation (usually the King James), is his word.
Or do you believe that he told someone else, and they told you?
These are not rhetorical questions. Some people do essentially believe that God told them personally that a particular set of books, or even a particular translation (usually the King James), is his word.
Christ came not to bring peace but rather strife:
Luke 12:51, 52 "Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division: For from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three."
Those that came out of the error of false Christianity owe it to tell those still in it, they are spiritually dead. That even includes the Protestants that didn't put away the false doctrines they carried from Roman Catholicism.
Luke 12:51, 52 "Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division: For from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three."
Those that came out of the error of false Christianity owe it to tell those still in it, they are spiritually dead. That even includes the Protestants that didn't put away the false doctrines they carried from Roman Catholicism.
If you understood what I was saying to Jackson, then simply apply the same ideas about differences in interpretation to Catholicism and protestantism.
Of course you are welcome to say that Catholics are worshipping idols or whatever. But I think Catholics have a different interpretation of the situation.
Of course you are welcome to say that Catholics are worshipping idols or whatever. But I think Catholics have a different interpretation of the situation.
I was saying that some people say taxation is theft. I was using this as an example of how different people will interpret a Bible subject.
do you agree that sometimes different people will interpret the same Bible passage differently, and the difference in interpretation will lead to different actions?
do you agree that sometimes different people will interpret the same Bible passage differently, and the difference in interpretation will lead to different actions?
Hi GKChesterton,
My understanding is that this is not officially a sectarian forum.
However, if you were to take a poll of people's views of Catholicism here, I think you would find that the vast majority regard it as at best seriously mistaken and at worst a tool of Satan.
There used to be a thread that was "stuck" to the top of the bible discussion forum (like there are currently several sticky threads at the beginning about general conduct). It was started by the Administrator of the site no less, and the title was something about the terrible heresies of the Catholic Church.
Anyways, my original post on this thread was just an attempt to give some comfort to the OP by talking about the assumptions that Protestants make versus the assumptions that Catholics make. I was certainly not intending what this thread has come to be!
My sense is that, sadly, sometimes people feel insecure about what they believe. If a situation arises where they are invited to examine what they believe, they sometimes react with hostility.
My understanding is that this is not officially a sectarian forum.
However, if you were to take a poll of people's views of Catholicism here, I think you would find that the vast majority regard it as at best seriously mistaken and at worst a tool of Satan.
There used to be a thread that was "stuck" to the top of the bible discussion forum (like there are currently several sticky threads at the beginning about general conduct). It was started by the Administrator of the site no less, and the title was something about the terrible heresies of the Catholic Church.
Anyways, my original post on this thread was just an attempt to give some comfort to the OP by talking about the assumptions that Protestants make versus the assumptions that Catholics make. I was certainly not intending what this thread has come to be!
My sense is that, sadly, sometimes people feel insecure about what they believe. If a situation arises where they are invited to examine what they believe, they sometimes react with hostility.
No I think you may have another agenda. If you do not like the the way one response to this thread then that is your issue. The love and humility and telling the truth. Rome is not heaven, The Pope is not the Lord Jesus and mary cannot answer or hear the prayers of the living. We cannot pay or pray one out of hell that has nothing to do with being Protestant, it has everything to do with what God word actually says over man's tradition. I do not know why you choose to make my post an issue on this thread but now you have my response thank you.
I haven't got any agenda other than discussing Christianity and chatting to other Christians.
I didn't say any of that stuff about Rome being Heaven and so on either. In fact I didn't take a view of the Catholic Church or its rites, I just said I thought they, like everyone else, should be respected if they're genuine in their beliefs.
Anyway, it's not my intention to be argumentative so I'm sorry if I offended anyone
I didn't say any of that stuff about Rome being Heaven and so on either. In fact I didn't take a view of the Catholic Church or its rites, I just said I thought they, like everyone else, should be respected if they're genuine in their beliefs.
Anyway, it's not my intention to be argumentative so I'm sorry if I offended anyone
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Yes much different.
Protestantism do not have another source of faith other than the one manner to seek after in times of need.
After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.Mathew 6:9
Catholicism's manner pray ye: patron saints as disembodied workers with familiar spirit, hallow venerate their names (3500). A legion of gods in the likeness of man.
Where in the scriptures are we informed to pray to gods as patron saints in the likeness of men?
What is their interpretation ?
I haven't got any agenda other than discussing Christianity and chatting to other Christians.
I didn't say any of that stuff about Rome being Heaven and so on either. In fact I didn't take a view of the Catholic Church or its rites, I just said I thought they, like everyone else, should be respected if they're genuine in their beliefs.
Anyway, it's not my intention to be argumentative so I'm sorry if I offended anyone
They’re not “gods”. As I understand it they’re either Angels , Apostles or ordinary people who have reached an exceptional state of goodness and faith.
I must say that the question of whether you should pray to them is one which has always bothered me but I know that there are learned arguments supporting it too.
I think it’d be a sin if in your heart you prayed to a saint as if they were a deity but I don’t think people do that.
If it’s true ( and of course I don’t know) that they’ve been called into the presence of God and Our Lord Jesus Christ then they’re not dead are they ?
The saints who are Angels aren’t dead either and that’s for definite.
Maybe catholics have it wrong - maybe you do but surely we can only be sure of what Our Lord told us and tells us rather than what ANY men insist is correct
I didn't say any of that stuff about Rome being Heaven and so on either. In fact I didn't take a view of the Catholic Church or its rites, I just said I thought they, like everyone else, should be respected if they're genuine in their beliefs.
Anyway, it's not my intention to be argumentative so I'm sorry if I offended anyone
They’re not “gods”. As I understand it they’re either Angels , Apostles or ordinary people who have reached an exceptional state of goodness and faith.
I must say that the question of whether you should pray to them is one which has always bothered me but I know that there are learned arguments supporting it too.
I think it’d be a sin if in your heart you prayed to a saint as if they were a deity but I don’t think people do that.
If it’s true ( and of course I don’t know) that they’ve been called into the presence of God and Our Lord Jesus Christ then they’re not dead are they ?
The saints who are Angels aren’t dead either and that’s for definite.
Maybe catholics have it wrong - maybe you do but surely we can only be sure of what Our Lord told us and tells us rather than what ANY men insist is correct
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Brothers, stay firm in the Word and in the Spirit, and do not let the followers of this world disparage or confuse you!
For without the Word and the Spirit we are lost!
2 Peter 1
But false prophets rose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you who will secretly bring in destructive heresies.
2Peter 15-17
Bear in mind that our Lord's patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him. He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction. Therefore, dear friends, since you have been forewarned, be on your guard so that you may not be carried away by the error of the lawless and fall from your secure position.
1Timothy 4:1-7
The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. 2 Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron. 3 They forbid people to marry and order them to abstain from certain foods, which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and who know the truth. 4 For everything God created is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving, 5 because it is consecrated by the word of God and prayer.
6 If you point these things out to the brothers and sisters,you will be a good minister of Christ Jesus, nourished on the truths of the faith and of the good teaching that you have followed. 7 Have nothing to do with godless myths and old wives’ tales; rather, train yourself to be godly.
For without the Word and the Spirit we are lost!
2 Peter 1
But false prophets rose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you who will secretly bring in destructive heresies.
2Peter 15-17
Bear in mind that our Lord's patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him. He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction. Therefore, dear friends, since you have been forewarned, be on your guard so that you may not be carried away by the error of the lawless and fall from your secure position.
1Timothy 4:1-7
The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. 2 Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron. 3 They forbid people to marry and order them to abstain from certain foods, which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and who know the truth. 4 For everything God created is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving, 5 because it is consecrated by the word of God and prayer.
6 If you point these things out to the brothers and sisters,you will be a good minister of Christ Jesus, nourished on the truths of the faith and of the good teaching that you have followed. 7 Have nothing to do with godless myths and old wives’ tales; rather, train yourself to be godly.
Depend oN the case. But bowing unto statue is something that simple
Like I drink water, how you interprate this simple statement.
Can you interprate : I am not drink water?
Not bow unto graven image is simple
And pope is bowing unto graven image, how honest people interprate pope not bow unto when It is oN the news and the Photo is Clear.
Like I drink water, how you interprate this simple statement.
Can you interprate : I am not drink water?
Not bow unto graven image is simple
And pope is bowing unto graven image, how honest people interprate pope not bow unto when It is oN the news and the Photo is Clear.
And I am surprise that people believe Mary able to hear billions people pray to her every day, is she omni present?
Imagine catholic in mexico pray to her, in the same time million catholic in Brasil pray from different city
What part of the bible or what verse produce this interpretation?
(Interpretation that Mary omnipresent like Jesus)
Imagine catholic in mexico pray to her, in the same time million catholic in Brasil pray from different city
What part of the bible or what verse produce this interpretation?
(Interpretation that Mary omnipresent like Jesus)
Lets not be inane. God has declared in the bible that He wrote it. I have witnessed the evidence that the words written in the bible have Gods power upon them. I have been changed by the Holy Spirit through the bible. I have met and fellowshipped with many others that have had the same experience.
There are qualities about the bible that no other book has attributed to it.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
There are qualities about the bible that no other book has attributed to it.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
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This is true what you say, but I am sure our Lord Jesus would not have omitted such an important thing as asking his mother first. Otherwise why didnt he say "Seek and ye shall find, ask and the door will be opened to you - oh and don't forget, ask my Mother or any Saint first".? I am sure he would have mentioned it.
Bible translations may appear to be a harmless activity. History shows it is anything but. Especially in England. I do not just love English old Bibles because I am English either.
Most know the story of Tyndale, or the King James Bible (or not) but many do not know of the Beloved English Wycliffe in England and why his are the first Bible translations that are not in Middle English, unless you like wading through Middle English (or Latin). If you do, good luck with that.
The authority of the Catholic Church was supreme. The Holy Scriptures were only available in Latin in the form of the Vulgate, only in the form of hand-written manuscripts, and only to those (like Wycliffe) who had the privilege of an education at a university such as Oxford, and who were able to understand Latin.
The Bible was first translated into English in 1382 by John Wycliffe, who worked from this Latin Vulgate. Wycliffe's Bible was immediately outlawed by the Catholic church, and anyone caught reading or reciting biblical passages in English faced imprisonment and even death for heresy.
Because the printing press was not made in England until 1439, all Bibles until that time were made by hand. Although there was success in getting copies widespread, nowhere near as much as in 1439, when the mechanical printing press was invented by Johannes Gutenberg.
John Wycliffe (c1330–1384) was 14th-century England’s outstanding thinker. A theologian by profession, he was called in to advise parliament in its negotiations with Rome. This was a world in which the church was all-powerful, and the more contact Wycliffe had with Rome, the more indignant he became. The papacy, he believed, reeked of corruption and self-interest. He was determined to do something about it.
When Moses came down from Mt. Sinai with the Ten Commandments, they were written in stone in a language that the entire nation of Israel could read.
David composed his poems of praise and petition, promises and pleadings, in the everyday language of his people.
Solomon penned his proverbs of wise fatherly counsel, and his songs of passionate love, in Hebrew, the language of many of his sons, and at least some of his lovers.
When Jesus walked the earth, by the sea or on a hilltop, in the Temple or at the well, to individuals and to multitudes alike, he spoke to people in Aramaic and Hebrew words which they all could understand.
Paul's letters were written in Greek, the everyday language of those to whom they were sent. The same was true of the Gospels and other New Testament writings.
But in England 2300 years after David and Solomon, and 1300 years after Jesus and Paul, the Bible was written almost exclusively in Latin, an unknown language to 99 percent of that society. Indeed, Latin was only understood by some of the clergy, some of the well-off, and the few who were university educated. This did not trouble the church princes, who long before had transformed the "Divine Commission"—to preach the Word and to save souls—into the more temporal undertaking of the all-consuming drive to wield authority over every aspect of life, and in the process, to accumulate ever-greater wealth.
John Wycliffe, an Oxford University professor and theologian, was one of those few who had read the Latin Bible. Though a scholar living a life of privilege, he nevertheless felt a strong empathy for the poor and the uneducated, those multitudes in feudal servitude whose lives were "nasty, brutish, and short". He challenged the princes of the church to face their hypocrisy and widespread corruption—and to repent. He railed that the church was no longer worthy to be the keeper of the Word of Truth. And he proposed a truly revolutionary idea:
"The Scriptures," Wycliffe stated, "are the property of the people, and one which no party should be allowed to wrest from them. Christ and his apostles converted the people by uncovering of Scripture, and this in the tongue which was most known to them. Why then cannot the modern disciples of Christ gather up the fragments of the same bread? The faith of Christ ought therefore to be recounted to the people in both languages, Latin and English."
John Wycliffe earnestly believed that all of the Scriptures should be available to all of the people all of the time in their native tongue. And so Wycliffe and his followers, most notably John Purvey, his secretary and close friend, and for a limited time, Nicholas Hereford, translated Jerome's Vulgate, the "Latin Bible," into the first English Bible. (They utilized original language texts as well.) Their literal, respectful translation was hand-printed around 1382. Historians refer to this as the "Early Version" of the Wycliffe Bible.
The church princes, long before having anointed themselves as sole arbitrator (indeed "soul" arbitrator!) between God and man, condemned this monumental achievement as heretical—and worse:
"This pestilent and wretched John Wycliffe, that son of the old serpent, endeavour[ing] by every means to attack the very faith and sacred doctrine of Holy Church, translated from Latin into English the Gospel, [indeed all of the Scriptures,] that Christ gave to the clergy and doctors of the Church. So that by his means it has become vulgar and more open to laymen and women who can read than it usually is to quite learned clergy of good intelligence. And so the pearl of the Gospel, [indeed of the Scriptures in toto,] is scattered abroad and trodden underfoot by swine." (Church Chronicle, 1395)
The church princes decreed that Wycliffe be removed from his professorship at Oxford, and it was done. Two years later, his health broken, he died.
In the decade following Wycliffe's death, his friend John Purvey revised their Bible. The complete text, including Purvey's "Great Prologue," appeared by 1395 (more than 200 years before the King James Bible). But portions of his revision, in particular the Gospels and other books of the New Testament, were in circulation as early as 1388.
Historians refer to this as the "Later Version" of the Wycliffe Bible. This vernacular version retained most of the theological insight and poetry of language found in the earlier, more literal effort. But it was easier to read and understand, and quickly gained a grateful and loyal following. Each copy had to be hand-printed (Gutenberg's printing press would not be invented for more than 50 years), but this did not deter widespread distribution.
For his efforts, the church princes ordered John Purvey arrested and delivered to the dungeon. He would not see freedom again until he recanted for his "sin" of writing the English Bible. His spirit ultimately broken, he eventually did recant. Upon release, he was watched, hounded at every step, the church princes determined that he would tow the party line. His life made a living hell, the co-author of the first English Bible disappeared into obscurity and died unknown.
But the fury of the church princes was unrelenting. Edicts flew. John Wycliffe's bones were dug up and burned. Wycliffe's writings were gathered up and burned. All unauthorized Bibles—that is, all those in the English language—were banned. All confiscated copies were burned. Those who copied out these Bibles were imprisoned. Those who distributed these Bibles were imprisoned. Those who owned an English Bible, or, as has been documented, "traded a cart-load of hay for but a few pages of the Gospel," were imprisoned. And those faithful souls who refused to "repent" the "evil" that they had committed, were burned at the stake, the "noxious" books they had penned, or even had merely owned, hung about their necks to be consumed by the same flames. In all, thousands were imprisoned and many hundreds executed. Merry olde England was engulfed in a reign of terror. All because of an English Bible.
But the spark that John Wycliffe, John Purvey, and their followers had ignited could not, would not, be extinguished. The Word of Truth was copied, again, and again, and again. It was shared, from hand to hand to hand. It was spoken, and read, and heard by the common people in their own language for the first time in over 1000 years. At long last, the Word of Truth had been returned to simple folk who were willing to lose everything to gain all. The Wycliffe Bible laid the groundwork for further translations of the Bible into English, in fact, the King James Version retains much of the same wording as the Wycliffe Bible, and continues its legacy.
Today there are scores of modern translations of the Bible in English, available at the library, in bookstores, and on the Internet. But once, there was just one. Try to imagine the impact upon hearing (or reading) these words for the very first time:
In the beginning God made of nought heaven and earth (In the beginning God made out of nothing the heavens and the earth) …(If there was a big bang noise at this point, he failed to mention it but it most definitely shows “Intelligent Design”.)
A page from John Wycliffe’s translation of the Bible into English, c1400.
A sample from the Book of John. https://www.biblestudytools.com/wyc/john/passage/?q=john+1:1-18
The whole OT and NT Wycliffe.
https://www.biblestudytools.com/wyc/
Most know the story of Tyndale, or the King James Bible (or not) but many do not know of the Beloved English Wycliffe in England and why his are the first Bible translations that are not in Middle English, unless you like wading through Middle English (or Latin). If you do, good luck with that.
The authority of the Catholic Church was supreme. The Holy Scriptures were only available in Latin in the form of the Vulgate, only in the form of hand-written manuscripts, and only to those (like Wycliffe) who had the privilege of an education at a university such as Oxford, and who were able to understand Latin.
The Bible was first translated into English in 1382 by John Wycliffe, who worked from this Latin Vulgate. Wycliffe's Bible was immediately outlawed by the Catholic church, and anyone caught reading or reciting biblical passages in English faced imprisonment and even death for heresy.
Because the printing press was not made in England until 1439, all Bibles until that time were made by hand. Although there was success in getting copies widespread, nowhere near as much as in 1439, when the mechanical printing press was invented by Johannes Gutenberg.
John Wycliffe (c1330–1384) was 14th-century England’s outstanding thinker. A theologian by profession, he was called in to advise parliament in its negotiations with Rome. This was a world in which the church was all-powerful, and the more contact Wycliffe had with Rome, the more indignant he became. The papacy, he believed, reeked of corruption and self-interest. He was determined to do something about it.
When Moses came down from Mt. Sinai with the Ten Commandments, they were written in stone in a language that the entire nation of Israel could read.
David composed his poems of praise and petition, promises and pleadings, in the everyday language of his people.
Solomon penned his proverbs of wise fatherly counsel, and his songs of passionate love, in Hebrew, the language of many of his sons, and at least some of his lovers.
When Jesus walked the earth, by the sea or on a hilltop, in the Temple or at the well, to individuals and to multitudes alike, he spoke to people in Aramaic and Hebrew words which they all could understand.
Paul's letters were written in Greek, the everyday language of those to whom they were sent. The same was true of the Gospels and other New Testament writings.
But in England 2300 years after David and Solomon, and 1300 years after Jesus and Paul, the Bible was written almost exclusively in Latin, an unknown language to 99 percent of that society. Indeed, Latin was only understood by some of the clergy, some of the well-off, and the few who were university educated. This did not trouble the church princes, who long before had transformed the "Divine Commission"—to preach the Word and to save souls—into the more temporal undertaking of the all-consuming drive to wield authority over every aspect of life, and in the process, to accumulate ever-greater wealth.
John Wycliffe, an Oxford University professor and theologian, was one of those few who had read the Latin Bible. Though a scholar living a life of privilege, he nevertheless felt a strong empathy for the poor and the uneducated, those multitudes in feudal servitude whose lives were "nasty, brutish, and short". He challenged the princes of the church to face their hypocrisy and widespread corruption—and to repent. He railed that the church was no longer worthy to be the keeper of the Word of Truth. And he proposed a truly revolutionary idea:
"The Scriptures," Wycliffe stated, "are the property of the people, and one which no party should be allowed to wrest from them. Christ and his apostles converted the people by uncovering of Scripture, and this in the tongue which was most known to them. Why then cannot the modern disciples of Christ gather up the fragments of the same bread? The faith of Christ ought therefore to be recounted to the people in both languages, Latin and English."
John Wycliffe earnestly believed that all of the Scriptures should be available to all of the people all of the time in their native tongue. And so Wycliffe and his followers, most notably John Purvey, his secretary and close friend, and for a limited time, Nicholas Hereford, translated Jerome's Vulgate, the "Latin Bible," into the first English Bible. (They utilized original language texts as well.) Their literal, respectful translation was hand-printed around 1382. Historians refer to this as the "Early Version" of the Wycliffe Bible.
The church princes, long before having anointed themselves as sole arbitrator (indeed "soul" arbitrator!) between God and man, condemned this monumental achievement as heretical—and worse:
"This pestilent and wretched John Wycliffe, that son of the old serpent, endeavour[ing] by every means to attack the very faith and sacred doctrine of Holy Church, translated from Latin into English the Gospel, [indeed all of the Scriptures,] that Christ gave to the clergy and doctors of the Church. So that by his means it has become vulgar and more open to laymen and women who can read than it usually is to quite learned clergy of good intelligence. And so the pearl of the Gospel, [indeed of the Scriptures in toto,] is scattered abroad and trodden underfoot by swine." (Church Chronicle, 1395)
The church princes decreed that Wycliffe be removed from his professorship at Oxford, and it was done. Two years later, his health broken, he died.
In the decade following Wycliffe's death, his friend John Purvey revised their Bible. The complete text, including Purvey's "Great Prologue," appeared by 1395 (more than 200 years before the King James Bible). But portions of his revision, in particular the Gospels and other books of the New Testament, were in circulation as early as 1388.
Historians refer to this as the "Later Version" of the Wycliffe Bible. This vernacular version retained most of the theological insight and poetry of language found in the earlier, more literal effort. But it was easier to read and understand, and quickly gained a grateful and loyal following. Each copy had to be hand-printed (Gutenberg's printing press would not be invented for more than 50 years), but this did not deter widespread distribution.
For his efforts, the church princes ordered John Purvey arrested and delivered to the dungeon. He would not see freedom again until he recanted for his "sin" of writing the English Bible. His spirit ultimately broken, he eventually did recant. Upon release, he was watched, hounded at every step, the church princes determined that he would tow the party line. His life made a living hell, the co-author of the first English Bible disappeared into obscurity and died unknown.
But the fury of the church princes was unrelenting. Edicts flew. John Wycliffe's bones were dug up and burned. Wycliffe's writings were gathered up and burned. All unauthorized Bibles—that is, all those in the English language—were banned. All confiscated copies were burned. Those who copied out these Bibles were imprisoned. Those who distributed these Bibles were imprisoned. Those who owned an English Bible, or, as has been documented, "traded a cart-load of hay for but a few pages of the Gospel," were imprisoned. And those faithful souls who refused to "repent" the "evil" that they had committed, were burned at the stake, the "noxious" books they had penned, or even had merely owned, hung about their necks to be consumed by the same flames. In all, thousands were imprisoned and many hundreds executed. Merry olde England was engulfed in a reign of terror. All because of an English Bible.
But the spark that John Wycliffe, John Purvey, and their followers had ignited could not, would not, be extinguished. The Word of Truth was copied, again, and again, and again. It was shared, from hand to hand to hand. It was spoken, and read, and heard by the common people in their own language for the first time in over 1000 years. At long last, the Word of Truth had been returned to simple folk who were willing to lose everything to gain all. The Wycliffe Bible laid the groundwork for further translations of the Bible into English, in fact, the King James Version retains much of the same wording as the Wycliffe Bible, and continues its legacy.
Today there are scores of modern translations of the Bible in English, available at the library, in bookstores, and on the Internet. But once, there was just one. Try to imagine the impact upon hearing (or reading) these words for the very first time:
In the beginning God made of nought heaven and earth (In the beginning God made out of nothing the heavens and the earth) …(If there was a big bang noise at this point, he failed to mention it but it most definitely shows “Intelligent Design”.)
A page from John Wycliffe’s translation of the Bible into English, c1400.
A sample from the Book of John. https://www.biblestudytools.com/wyc/john/passage/?q=john+1:1-18
The whole OT and NT Wycliffe.
https://www.biblestudytools.com/wyc/