Well let me delve into this with you and see if I can persuade you. 
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Grace is being persuasive AHAHHAHA HEY.....that is true......and then FAITH saves HAHAHAHHAHH
HEY.....that is true......and then FAITH saves HAHAHAHHAHH The evidence is in the context, Sherlock. You see, but you do not observe.
I didn’t look at any commentaries when I got what I got out of the passage, but when you mocked it, I went ahead and checked commentaries to see if my interpretation was novel. Every commentary I checked agreed with my interpretation.
O mighty DC, why don’t you give your take on the text?
I didn’t look at any commentaries when I got what I got out of the passage, but when you mocked it, I went ahead and checked commentaries to see if my interpretation was novel. Every commentary I checked agreed with my interpretation.
O mighty DC, why don’t you give your take on the text?
You’re talking about tension. Things that appear contradictory but are not.
What our eminent Greek scholar in these forums doesn’t tell people is that the function of the tense in Greek is not to indicate time of action, but rather type of action. He doesn’t tell people this, because it undermines his view of 1 John 3:1-10
The present tense indicates an action that is either continual or repetetive. Any Greek student who has studied Greek for one year will tell you this. It’s onevof the first things you learn, like in the first month
So when John says whosoever is born of God does not sin, it is speaking of a continuous state of sin as a way of life.
The eminent (supposedly) Greek scholar here either knows this or should, but he continues to teach that text in a way that is utterly foreign to johns thought
What our eminent Greek scholar in these forums doesn’t tell people is that the function of the tense in Greek is not to indicate time of action, but rather type of action. He doesn’t tell people this, because it undermines his view of 1 John 3:1-10
The present tense indicates an action that is either continual or repetetive. Any Greek student who has studied Greek for one year will tell you this. It’s onevof the first things you learn, like in the first month
So when John says whosoever is born of God does not sin, it is speaking of a continuous state of sin as a way of life.
The eminent (supposedly) Greek scholar here either knows this or should, but he continues to teach that text in a way that is utterly foreign to johns thought
See...that is the difference between us....I cannot even begin to surmise why Peter said what he said without contextual evidence which states clearly WHY he said it. You on the other hand just whip things out of a hat and post them as biblically factual truths.....and you think a commentary that surmises as to the reason why he said something makes it factual....well heck....I guess that settles it hey.....!
And I never mocked...I made a factual statement.......YOU, I, and EVERY COMMENTATOR on the planet CANNOT give as factual evidence an opinion WITHOUT biblical evidence backed by contextual truth.....
There is NOT one shred of evidence that supports your conclusion.....WHY do you constantly KICK against the truth man when you are called on something that you cannot back biblically........
And I never mocked...I made a factual statement.......YOU, I, and EVERY COMMENTATOR on the planet CANNOT give as factual evidence an opinion WITHOUT biblical evidence backed by contextual truth.....
There is NOT one shred of evidence that supports your conclusion.....WHY do you constantly KICK against the truth man when you are called on something that you cannot back biblically........
It’s there. You just don’t see it
Why do many see it and you don’t?
So why did Peter say Phileo instead of Agape? And what was the purpose of Jesus foretelling Peter’s martydom
Don’t just make fun of what someone drew out of a text. Why don’t you walk us through the text
If you can’t do that, you words have the weight of a feather on this matter
Why do many see it and you don’t?
So why did Peter say Phileo instead of Agape? And what was the purpose of Jesus foretelling Peter’s martydom
Don’t just make fun of what someone drew out of a text. Why don’t you walk us through the text
If you can’t do that, you words have the weight of a feather on this matter
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Grace is being persuasive AHAHHAHA HEY.....that is true......and then FAITH saves HAHAHAHHAHH
HEY.....that is true......and then FAITH saves HAHAHAHHAHH
I do know the kindness of the Lord leads us to repentance, which can be persuasive....
So, maybe so, maybe “grace is persuasive.” I’ll need to “chew the cud” on that one (think and discuss it with the Holy Spirit). 😍👍
Great post! It got me thinking.....
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i dont know DCs view of 1 John 3:1-10 put i would like to hear it @dcontroversal
i just heard a sermon of it by pastor lawson i believe. he said its also means continual lifestyle not falling into some sin.
i just heard a sermon of it by pastor lawson i believe. he said its also means continual lifestyle not falling into some sin.
You are making bare assertions. Back up your assertion by walking us through the text and tell us the answer to questions like why did Peter use phileo instead of agape, what was Jesus’ intention in the exchange, and why did Jesus foretell Peters future martydom.
Are all these things in a bubble and unrelated.
Unless you give your take on a text using exegesis, your criticism is nothing but bare assertions
Are all these things in a bubble and unrelated.
Unless you give your take on a text using exegesis, your criticism is nothing but bare assertions
Hmmm.....interesting concept...”grace is being persuasive”......
I do know the kindness of the Lord leads us to repentance, which can be persuasive....
So, maybe so, maybe “grace is persuasive.” I’ll need to “chew the cud” on that one (think and discuss it with the Holy Spirit). 😍👍
Great post! It got me thinking.....
I do know the kindness of the Lord leads us to repentance, which can be persuasive....
So, maybe so, maybe “grace is persuasive.” I’ll need to “chew the cud” on that one (think and discuss it with the Holy Spirit). 😍👍
Great post! It got me thinking.....
If you read the passage in context...
This is the second miracle involving a catch of fish. The first was when Jesus called Peter to be a fisher of men
Three questions of affirmation in contrast to the three denials of Peter
The repeated commission to “ feed my sheep/lambs”
Peter using phileo instead of agape. Agape is a a love that is willing to lay down life, phileo is a much weaker word
Jesus telling Peter about how he would die a martyr
These are all things to take into consideration when interpreting the text
It’s observing the text before you interpret it
This is the second miracle involving a catch of fish. The first was when Jesus called Peter to be a fisher of men
Three questions of affirmation in contrast to the three denials of Peter
The repeated commission to “ feed my sheep/lambs”
Peter using phileo instead of agape. Agape is a a love that is willing to lay down life, phileo is a much weaker word
Jesus telling Peter about how he would die a martyr
These are all things to take into consideration when interpreting the text
It’s observing the text before you interpret it
Not sure why he is mouthing yet again.....one of these days he will pay the price.....and his over all statement is false concerning the Greek verb tense.....it depends WHICH verb tense is being used at the time.....some like the perfect tense sets forth a present continuing result from a past completed action.....yes...1st John concerning sin in a believer primarily points to a continual lifestyle of sin...…….
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