Galatian Conundrums
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Sort of.
I believe it was Gods Plan to begin with but nobody understood it until Paul.
I understand that is what the Jews think and that is what you and many others think.
But what did the Lord Jesus Christ say about it?
Luke 17:20-21
20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:
21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
That's a pretty odd thing to say about a physical kingdom. Do you just ignore it? It seems to be a pretty important piece of the puzzle.
I believe it was Gods Plan to begin with but nobody understood it until Paul.
I understand that is what the Jews think and that is what you and many others think.
But what did the Lord Jesus Christ say about it?
Luke 17:20-21
20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:
21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
That's a pretty odd thing to say about a physical kingdom. Do you just ignore it? It seems to be a pretty important piece of the puzzle.
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I don't really understand why you would use the term replacement theology. Its not the right term.
Does 'fellow heir' imply replacement? Does 'partaker with' imply replacement?
Christianity replaced Judaism. Is that why you call it replacement theology? You don't believe Christianity replaced Judaism?
Does 'fellow heir' imply replacement? Does 'partaker with' imply replacement?
Christianity replaced Judaism. Is that why you call it replacement theology? You don't believe Christianity replaced Judaism?
The 144,000 and the 2 witnesses will be doing an excellent job there later, with signs and wonders accompanying them. All the Jews will finally accept the resurrected Jesus as their king. 
144,000 Same picture as the bride of Christ the church in Revelation 12 .
It has nothing to do with the flesh corrupted mankind .But does have to do with walking by faith the unseen eternal
Its not a Jewish religion . Jews are simply used to represent the whole of mankind. Pitting flesh and blood against flesh and blood hides the gospel
The 1444,000 in that parable found in the book of Revelation must be interpreted according to the "signified" or poetic language of God .
It is shown in the opening statement that not only was is inspired but also signified the language of a parables which without Christ spoke not. . hiding the unseen gospel understanding from natural unconverted mankind. . .
Revelation 1:1 King James Version (KJV) The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and "signified it" by his angel unto his servant John:
Another point because we walk by the faith of Christ that works in us. We are given the understanding the last sign as a wonder (source of faith) was given and fulfilled at the cross .
That number 144, 000, and flesh, the temporal things seen must be used to represent the unseen eternal faith principle or the hidden meaning will remain hid.
2 Corinthians 4:18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.
Jesus replied. . it is a evil generation (natural unconverted man) that does look to the things seen. . and not the unseen eternal faith principle.
Natural man is quick to be part of them that number. . comparing themselves to and by themselves and not comparing themselves rather as it is written. Scripture says it is not wise, but is after the wisdom of this world .
For instance the Jehovah Witnesses fulfilled that number and had to re think of a way to develop pride .
1 John 2:16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
The word Jew like the word Israel must be divided as to the meanings. All Israel is not Israel, in the same way with the word Jew. A born again Jew is one inwardly. . . not outwardly pertaining to the flesh what the eyes see. God uses a Jew to represent mankind as a whole.
Its not that the Jews did not have the right ID or DNA . The Jew lost its identify to be associated with Christ when the genealogy ended. the reformation came. Today there would be no way to prove anything it all one corrupted blood.
Revelation 2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
Revelation 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
Today many who walk by sight after that literally seen as a literal understanding . . . worship at their feet hoping Jew flesh could profit. And this is even though Jesus of his own Jewish flesh say it profits for nothing. The unseen Spirit of faith alone can .
Jew and Gentile (mankind) stand in the same place guilty before God requiring the same wage of sin
A different plan than that of the gentiles? Another kind of gospel?
God sees mankind as a whole (1 group) as grasshoppers. Hip- hop today gone tomorrow
Isaiah 40:22 It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:
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You must have misunderstood me. Im saying that is NOT true, YOU asked me what "Paulinisim" or "Pauliene Christianity" was and I told you what see. I said it is a false view but none the less people through history and today hold this or wery similar views.
If you are not saying that "like I beleive it" why then explin to me why it's wrong and say "Why puff up Paul above that which is written?" I am not doing that.
So bottom line Jesus words are above all ACCORDING to the word of God:
Deuteronomy 18:18-19, " 18 I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their brothers. And I will put my words in his mouth, and he shall speak to them all that I command him. 19 And whoever will not listen to my words that he shall speak in my name, I myself will require it of him.
Acts 3:22-23, " 22 Moses said, ‘The Lord God will raise up for you a prophet like me from your brothers. You shall listen to him in whatever he tells you. 23 And it shall be that every soul who does not listen to that prophet shall be destroyed from the people.’
John 14:23-26, " 23 Jesus answered him, “If anyone loves me, he will keep my word, and my Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him. 24 Whoever does not love me does not keep my words. And the word that you hear is not mine but the Father's who sent me. 25 “These things I have spoken to you while I am still with you. 26 But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you.
John 12:48, “He who rejects Me, and does not follow My words has One Who judges him. The word that I have spoken, the same will be used to judge him in the last day.”
If you are not saying that "like I beleive it" why then explin to me why it's wrong and say "Why puff up Paul above that which is written?" I am not doing that.
So bottom line Jesus words are above all ACCORDING to the word of God:
Deuteronomy 18:18-19, " 18 I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their brothers. And I will put my words in his mouth, and he shall speak to them all that I command him. 19 And whoever will not listen to my words that he shall speak in my name, I myself will require it of him.
Acts 3:22-23, " 22 Moses said, ‘The Lord God will raise up for you a prophet like me from your brothers. You shall listen to him in whatever he tells you. 23 And it shall be that every soul who does not listen to that prophet shall be destroyed from the people.’
John 14:23-26, " 23 Jesus answered him, “If anyone loves me, he will keep my word, and my Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him. 24 Whoever does not love me does not keep my words. And the word that you hear is not mine but the Father's who sent me. 25 “These things I have spoken to you while I am still with you. 26 But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you.
John 12:48, “He who rejects Me, and does not follow My words has One Who judges him. The word that I have spoken, the same will be used to judge him in the last day.”
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Yes God does look upon the whole world and the wickedness of the Israelites is recorded from the time of Moses until the present day. They have suffered greatly and what they need more than anything is New Testament teachers and evangelists. Unfortunately some people are too indocrinated in what could have been, to be able to point them to what might be and indeed will be. God is waiting and He will never leave us or forsake us, and that is an eternal promise. If only they would seek the power of the Holy Spirit in their land.
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Galatians 3:28-29
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
Heirs according to the promise.
Fellow heirs. Partakers with. If you be Christs.
Aren't you a Paul guy? How do you not know what he is saying?
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Correct. The words of Jesus are not to be overlooked, rest assured brethren, God is not playing games.
God sent His one and only begotten Son to the world to die for our sins and to teach us how we need to live, what must we do to be saved, what must we do to inherit eternal life in the world to come.
Anyone who overlooks the words of Jesus has not only failed in his own faith miserably, but has also deceived others into his same error, and God will not be happy when His Son is overlooked. These people will be held accountable by God on judgment day, you can be sure of that.
God sent His one and only begotten Son to the world to die for our sins and to teach us how we need to live, what must we do to be saved, what must we do to inherit eternal life in the world to come.
Anyone who overlooks the words of Jesus has not only failed in his own faith miserably, but has also deceived others into his same error, and God will not be happy when His Son is overlooked. These people will be held accountable by God on judgment day, you can be sure of that.
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"sounds" harsh, but it is true.
John 12:48, “He who rejects Me, and does not follow My words has One Who judges him. The word that I have spoken, the same will be used to judge him in the last day.”
John 14:23-24, " 23 Jesus answered him, “If anyone loves me, he will keep my word, and my Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him. 24 Whoever does not love me does not keep my words. And the word that you hear is not mine but the Father's who sent me.
John 12:48, “He who rejects Me, and does not follow My words has One Who judges him. The word that I have spoken, the same will be used to judge him in the last day.”
John 14:23-24, " 23 Jesus answered him, “If anyone loves me, he will keep my word, and my Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him. 24 Whoever does not love me does not keep my words. And the word that you hear is not mine but the Father's who sent me.
Yeah. It seems so clear to me.
I don't even realize the different ways people interpret scripture until I see their thoughts.
Sometimes they make sense and sometimes they don't.
So, even though there is neither jew nor greek but we are all one in Christ Jesus and BECAUSE we are Christs we are Abrahams seed and Heirs according to Gods Promise you still think that God says its ok to reject Christ? And that He will reward a certain people group for doing so? Because, according to your interpretation, God gave them a physical land promise?
Wasn't that land promise to/through Abraham?? Paul says we are Heirs according to Gods Promise through Abraham BECAUSE we are Christs.
So how can it have been a promise only to physical jews?
Just bringing up things for you to think about. As long as you believe Paul. If you don't believe Paul then this wouldn't matter.
I don't even realize the different ways people interpret scripture until I see their thoughts.
Sometimes they make sense and sometimes they don't.
So, even though there is neither jew nor greek but we are all one in Christ Jesus and BECAUSE we are Christs we are Abrahams seed and Heirs according to Gods Promise you still think that God says its ok to reject Christ? And that He will reward a certain people group for doing so? Because, according to your interpretation, God gave them a physical land promise?
Wasn't that land promise to/through Abraham?? Paul says we are Heirs according to Gods Promise through Abraham BECAUSE we are Christs.
So how can it have been a promise only to physical jews?
Just bringing up things for you to think about. As long as you believe Paul. If you don't believe Paul then this wouldn't matter.
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