Looking for help with spiritual issues

[Newbie]

7th heaven is about the 7 doors to everyones soul. Some call it the 3rs heaven. So if you research 7th heaven of course you will only find a tv show. In the bible Paul speaks about being in the body or out of the body I do not know. Speaking on the 3rd heaven. So sorry for those of you that were unaware of what I was speaking about. Some made jokes and others didn't. Im aware this isnt a meat and potatoes chat room where people study the spirit of God and bible instead of just the words in the bible. Again like I said anyone in a real Christian walk stay open minded to whats being said. I guess none of you have experienced anything in the spirit of God and only look to mock. God only hates a few things and mockers are one of them. Have a blessed night. I know u will by sitting in Jesus presence and figure out how to fight Satan's attacks with Jesus knowing 85 percent of Christians are plastic people looking at specks while blindsided by logs. If you want to find God put yourself to the test of how you treat others and stop walking the braud road.

For those of you who arebt being rude I appreciate your input and efforts to find me scripture to assist me in locating the scripture to correct what the evil person has done to effect my spiritualality. I will in hopes locate what I need in the concordance to try to help myself. I need the help of a pastor or clergy that knows how to fight a real direct attack in the florida area. May Jesus watch over all of the people who have helped and help the people unaware of your spirit. May Jesus bless those that persecute and in hope enlighten those who know not what they do. Amen.

 

[Newbie]

How are you now? Do you felt like things are better? I hope you are doing well.

By the way I am a tiny bit better but the main issue still isnt corrected until I can get the help of other Christians to work with me to get the main problem at hand resolved. I have people still speaking in my soul and they are attacking me.

I want to make sure those of you who've helped me I greatly appreciate looking into scriptures. I have a concordance but unsure as to what topics to read from first or whats most important to work on first. I dont want to upset anyone and I know not everyone has been rude. More were helpful than not helpful. I just need help from someone that knows what their doing at fixing this or working at fixing this. So I appreciate anyones help that has intentionally tried to help.

 

[Newbie]

I'm not angry I'm cleari g contravercy

I was pinned into the key hole 2 years after being set free. Someone at a church pinned me intentionally to do this to me in 2008. Their attacks werent effecting me until the last year. I believe the pin has to be removed form me and the person wont release me. I wasnt trained to fight in the spirit and someone did this to me to attack my soul. I warred them with scripture when they came in but it didnt make them leave my soul.

I dont want to get too far into detail because its a complicated situation and talking to someone that has no idea only makes it harder on me because the every day Christian like me didnt know people could pin you and I didnt know people could attack your soul if they are really working for Satan.

I will wait for a response and hopefully you may be able to help me because outside of praise and worship of Jesus and reading my bible and working for God like a Christian should I was completely unprepared for this to happen to me.

 

[Lightskin]

I was pinned into the key hole 2 years after being set free. Someone at a church pinned me intentionally to do this to me in 2008. Their attacks werent effecting me until the last year. I believe the pin has to be removed form me and the person wont release me. I wasnt trained to fight in the spirit and someone did this to me to attack my soul. I warred them with scripture when they came in but it didnt make them leave my soul..

You lack faith in Jesus. All you need is faith the size of a mustard seed to have these afflictions removed from you.

 

[Angela53510]

So many unbiblical words and doctrines. No one is pinned to Anything, there is no 7th Heaven in the Bible. Your Greek is simply wrong, I have 2 years of Master's degree courses in Koine Greek you took some of those words far from their real meanings.

My first thought is that you are mentally ill. You obsess about all this completely unbiblical nonsense. You also keep repeating words you would never find in the Bible, nor in any church. This leads me to believe you are in some kind of charismatic cult. Whether online, or in person.

First, you have no knowledge of the sovereignty of God. God controls everything. How can you believe for a moment that God is the creator of the universe, but then think some mere human can take away anything that God has given you? No one can take away anything God has given you. Because if they could, God would not be omnipotent, omniscient not omnipresent.

The worst false doctrine out there is that experience trumps the Word of God. Never! If God reveals something to you, it must be consistent with the word. To say nothing of extra biblical revelation, which is imposing your imagination on the Bible. Instead of studying all this demonic nonsense, study the sovereignty of God! A good book to read on this is "Knowing God" by JI Packer.

Finally, you came here asking for advice, and you have rejected almost everything people have said. You are arrogant and lack humility. If you really want advice, listen to what people have said. Members have offered you very good advice, but you are just looking for someone who will parrot back what you already believe. I don't care how many years you say you have been a Christian, your words do not indicate a mature Christian, and your doctrine is based on not understanding good hermeneutics or Bible interpretation. I pray you will go back to the beginning of this thread, and read the wisdom of what people have written. And no one has pinned, no demon or person is attacking you spiritually that God can't take care of. God is in control.

I still think you are mentally ill. Maybe you are over your depression, which is good, but there are so many other types of mental illness. You need to see a doctor. Spiritually, let go of all this unbiblical nonsense, and you will be free.

 

[PennEd]

By the way I am a tiny bit better but the main issue still isnt corrected until I can get the help of other Christians to work with me to get the main problem at hand resolved. I have people still speaking in my soul and they are attacking me.

I want to make sure those of you who've helped me I greatly appreciate looking into scriptures. I have a concordance but unsure as to what topics to read from first or whats most important to work on first. I dont want to upset anyone and I know not everyone has been rude. More were helpful than not helpful. I just need help from someone that knows what their doing at fixing this or working at fixing this. So I appreciate anyones help that has intentionally tried to help.

Beings that “speak into your soul” are the fiery darts Satan and his demons shoot at you. They aren’t from people. Test yourself to see if you know what the true Gospel is, and apply Ephesians 6 accordingly.

 

[CherieR]

By the way I am a tiny bit better but the main issue still isnt corrected until I can get the help of other Christians to work with me to get the main problem at hand resolved. I have people still speaking in my soul and they are attacking me.

I want to make sure those of you who've helped me I greatly appreciate looking into scriptures. I have a concordance but unsure as to what topics to read from first or whats most important to work on first. I dont want to upset anyone and I know not everyone has been rude. More were helpful than not helpful. I just need help from someone that knows what their doing at fixing this or working at fixing this. So I appreciate anyones help that has intentionally tried to help.

If you are unsure what topics to read from the bible that is ok. You can still read the books of the bible. It may be that as you are reading from the books of the bible, you come across a topic that really encourages you or that you want to look further into. Many people enjoy reading from the book of Psalms. Often times I have heard the book of John recommended as a start to bible reading. Genesis and Exodus have many stories heard in church such as, creation, Noahs Ark, Joseph life, Abraham and Issac, the Exodus where God delivers Israel out of Egypt, and their journey in the wilderness and how God provided...etc. The prophetic books such as Isaiah, Jeremiah, and Ezekiel have good words in them too. Isaiah chapter 40 is especially encouraging to many. As you read, ask God to give understanding of what you read and teach you what is true.

 

[TheLearner]

First of all for this to be a Christian chat to speak to Christians for spiritual help there sure seems to be nothing but judgemental close minded people who think they know god because they know scripture but dont apply it in their life. I cant see but maybe two or three people with spiritual frits here answering what I'm talking about. All the knowlage in the bible to every word means nothing if you have not love. Not many people in the world practice the bible but know a bunch yet know nothing.... Its in application these things work! I'm not mentally ill at all and again I was set free by Jesus in 2006.

Most of you have no experiencial knowlage of spirituality at all and only know the words in tge bible without living by them. Ganosco is Greek for experiencial knowledge ....know I experienced Jesus setting me free from being a slave to sin and practice only Christs words in application of my life. In the armor of God it says im an ambassador in chains that in it I may speak boldly as I aught to speak. Ive been freed from the Key Hole which is being in chains ......that we are born into ......and knowing Jesus while having a personal relationship with Christ makes the diffrence between the people answering judgementally without really knowing anything about what your reading......know your Love walk is proud and rude by assuming im having a drug issue or that I'm unknowingly not working harder than anyone else on here, or that I'm mentally ill and know nothing..... I can already tell I know more than most of you and would need a bible scholar to even begin to understand what I'm dealing with.

Ive experienced someone personally attacking me because im very blessed and some Satanist wanted what i have and just because you've never experienced a real attack directed straight at you doesn't say anything about me. It just means you dont know what I'm talking about and that maybe im bringing something to the table of this Christian website that the average Christian doesnt understand because they havent achieved where I am to be targeted for your freedom in the spirit or fruits of the spirit. Apparently I have something the person wanted that they couldnt achieve without working for it. The bible also explains thieves breaking in to steal! Do any of tge repsonces line up with the word of God or are I guys the one needing to find a doctrine church and learn the Word? Maybe this is a challenge of actually reading what I wrote and thinking past your judgemental understanding while looking at me with a plank in your eye?

Hi friend your post came off as judgmental to me, did you mean it to come off that way? Remember online we can not hear your tone of voice.

 

[TheLearner]

I have indeed read where Jesus says that thieves break in and steal, but the context is not about spiritual warfare.

Newbie, from what source are you getting ideas like the Key Hole, the 7th heaven, and "pinned"? It isn't from the Bible.

October 5 2008 Revelation 4 v1-11 - Through the keyhole
Heaven's Throne room

October 12 2008 Revelation 5 v1-14 - 7th Heaven
A Scroll, a Subject and a Song

http://www.sladebrook.org.uk/teaching-series/church-on-the-up.htm

 

[TheLearner]

I'm not angry I'm cleari g contravercy

I am sure you did not mean to come off as being angry, but that is how you are coming across. Welcome to being a Fallible Human Being like myself.

 

[TheLearner]

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The Seven Doors to the Soul
February 25, 2014Michael James FitzgeraldLeave a comment

in the soul. You have one. I have one. I am not completely sure what a soul is made of, but I am sure it is there.
When protected, it is a fortress—with seven doors, doors that can only be opened by your permission.
Happy is the soul who guards those doors wisely.
The first door, the eyes. Your eyes are the proverbial window to your soul. We open our eyes to see a scene, a person, a truth. We let the image in. For good or ill, the image becomes part of your being.
Second, the ears. We listen to others through our ears but also with our souls. At first we may listen without the other person really knowing we are listening to them. We are interested. We are intrigued. We quiet ourselves and listen.
This happened on my mission: I helped teach an investigator in Kirtland, Ohio back in 1978. Nothing happened. Fourteen years later, I saw him again and he revealed to me that he had listened to our testimonies and “devoured” a book we had given him, A Marvelous Work and a Wonder by LeGrand Richards. I didn’t know that at the time. When I saw him that day in the Portland Oregon Temple, he presented his temple recommend to me (I worked at the recommend desk). It was profound evidence that a door to his soul had quietly opened many years before.
The third is the mouth. With trust and confidence gained from eyes and ears, we begin to speak and share. We open up. First, we may share a simple fact from our lives, but as trust grows, we reveal ever deepening avowals. With the people you trust the most, you can share anything without fear; with those we fear, we conceal our essence.
The fourth portal is the mind. We open our thoughts to ponder and meditate. We let words and ideas distill upon us, drop by drop. We think about an experience over and over. It can be our own experience or the experience of another. The mind, of course, is involved from the beginning, but the door fully opens through intentional thought, deliberate meditation.
An example of this for me is the experience of our Savior in the garden Gethsemane, something I’ve pondered for many years. I think of how He felt completely alone, how He begged for relief, and how He yielded. How He did not bleed until He completely yielded. That is my own conclusion; it does not come from the scriptures, but it feels true to me. I will hold it as true until someone convinces me otherwise, but I won’t teach it as doctrine. I offer it only as an opinion that has passed through a door to my soul.
The fifth, the heart. The mind is a pathway to the heart. I am not speaking of the physical heart that pumps blood through our veins. I am talking about something else. I don’t really know what the heart is. It may be connected to the physical heart but it is much larger. It is at the center of our bodies. It glows and vibrates and shines and crackles. We weep and laugh. We may open this door when we are reading a book or writing one or listening to a talk in sacrament meeting or talking to a spouse, a child, a friend, even a stranger or listening to a sparrow or the wind sing, or contemplating a memory or the voice of the Holy Spirit. The heart is the sail of the soul.
The sixth is the spirit. Your soul, your eternal friend, is a union of your body and spirit. It is where the physical meets the spiritual. It is where the past meets the future. It is eternal. It is where we see across a vast expanse, forward and backward, into a time and place we seem to remember but cannot fully grasp. It is a place where we come to understanding or recollection before the mind and heart arrives. It is where we connect with the truth. When we connect with it, when that door is open to it, we forget we are on earth. Heaven is here and now. It is a way to peace, a peace that goes beyond understanding.
The seventh and last is sacred, human touch. This is the door we often open too early. We are anxious to open it. We are desperate to find a soul mate. We think when we open that door that it will throw open all the other doors, but in this we are often disappointed. When physical touch begins so does trouble when that touch comes too early.
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https://putonthearmoroflight.com/2014/02/

 

[Sipsey]

There is a Bible based church in Clearwater. Not sure how far that is from you but here is a link to their site. They have a great many sermons indexed by topic and a phone a number where they can be reached.
”He that is in you, is greater that he that is in the world.”

http://www.lakesidechapel.com/

 

[TheLearner]

Hi Newbie without rambling on, please do an outline of what you believe the Gospel is.
Then we all can discuss each part of the outline one part at a time.

Thanks,
Daniel

For edification:

1 Corinthians 15:3-5 Easy-to-Read Version (ERV)

I gave you the message that I received. I told you the most important truths: that Christ died for our sins, as the Scriptures say; 4 that he was buried and was raised to life on the third day, as the Scriptures say; 5 and that he appeared to Peter and then to the twelve apostles.

Ephesians 2:8-10 Easy-to-Read Version (ERV)
8 I mean that you have been saved by grace because you believed. You did not save yourselves; it was a gift from God. 9 You are not saved by the things you have done, so there is nothing to boast about. 10 God has made us what we are. In Christ Jesus, God made us new people so that we would spend our lives doing the good things he had already planned for us to do.

2 Peter 1:3-15 Easy-to-Read Version (ERV)

3 Jesus has the power of God. And his power has given us everything we need to live a life devoted to God. We have these things because we know him. Jesus chose us by his glory and goodness, 4 through which he also gave us the very great and rich gifts that he promised us. With these gifts you can share in being like God. And so you will escape the ruin that comes to people in the world because of the evil things they want.

5 Because you have these blessings, do all you can to add to your life these things: to your faith add goodness; to your goodness add knowledge; 6 to your knowledge add self-control; to your self-control add patience; to your patience add devotion to God; 7 to your devotion add kindness toward your brothers and sisters in Christ, and to this kindness add love. 8 If all these things are in you and growing, you will never fail to be useful to God. You will produce the kind of fruit that should come from your knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. 9 But those who don’t grow in these blessings are blind. They cannot see clearly what they have. They have forgotten that they were cleansed from their past sins.

10 My brothers and sisters, God called you and chose you to be his. Do your best to live in a way that shows you really are God’s called and chosen people. If you do all this, you will never fall. 11 And you will be given a very great welcome into the kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, a kingdom that never ends.

12 You already know these things. You are very strong in the truth you have. But I am always going to help you remember them. 13 While I am still living here on earth, I think it is right for me to remind you of them. 14 I know that I must soon leave this body. Our Lord Jesus Christ has shown me that. 15 I will try my best to make sure you remember these things even after I am gone.

 

[TheLearner]

My outline of the Gospel:

I. Jesus as God came in the flesh.
II. Jesus died for our sins in our place.
III. Jesus rose from the dead.
IV. Jesus ascended to heaven.
V. One accepts his gift by faith in him.
VI. After that comes what is known as Sanctification.
VII. At the end of time, the Trinity will raise everyone from the dead for Judgement.
VIII. Those who live for Jesus will be with him in Heaven or on the New Earth. The others will have an eternal punishment.

 

[TheLearner]

XI. There is only one God manifested as three persons, Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

 

[TheLearner]

My main concern newbie friend that you see a doctor to deal with your depression. Not everything has a spiritual cause.