Creation and the Gap theory (pre adamic race)
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2Pe 2:5 KJV And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;
Peter was talking of the OLD world....is there a world older than this?
2Pe 2:5 KJV And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;
Peter was talking of the OLD world....is there a world older than this?
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An "age". Was, is, and is to come. Noahs flood was in this "age" The "age" that PERISHED is the WAS "age".
What I find weird is that no one has a problem with this age ending and the new one starting but the thought of "one before this" is just "too much".
Jeremiah 4:19 My bowels, my bowels! I am pained at my very heart; my heart maketh a noise in me; I cannot hold my peace, because thou hast heard, O my soul, the sound of the trumpet, the alarm of war.
Cast down to earth. ****when an age is ended instead of an entire creation, (WHICH GOD SO EASILY COULD HAVE DONE, BUT OBVIOUSLY CHOSE NOT TO CAUSE HERE WE ARE), you have been working on, the souls all must go some where. I believe that this is why there was one heaven and one earth and then there were heavens and earth because of this period between then and when we are put into the flesh*****
Have you ever lost someone so dear that your heart seems to make a noise? You can't breath, while you are breathing, there is no where to go, the world has stopped and you can't start it, you want to go back and if you could you would? What would it take to stop your self from doing that very thing if you ACTUALLY could? How hard it must be......down to your very soul
Satan was Gods "highest, best made, closest". And when that kind of pain lets lose, well, nothing makes it through. Here is how God describes it
Jeremiah 4:20 Destruction upon destruction is cried; for the whole land is spoiled: suddenly are my tents spoiled, and my curtains in a moment.
SUDDENLY, for those who took notes on their "Noahs Flood" we can add this to our growing list of differences sound of trumpet, alarm of war, destruction upon destruction.
Gods decision made. *****dinosaurs died and I think continents separated******
Jeremiah 4:21 How long shall I see the standard, and hear the sound of the trumpet?
Jeremiah 4:22 For my people is foolish, they have not known me; they are sottish children, and they have none understanding: they are wise to do evil, but to do good they have no knowledge.
FOR MY PEOPLE IS FOOLISH, THEY HAVE NOT KNOWN ME, THEY ARE SOTTISH CHILDREN AND THEY HAVE NONE UNDERSTANDING, THEY ARE WISE TO DO EVIL, BUT TO DO GOOD THEY HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE
Does God know us? Foolish and stupid. Nothing in the Word of God can be more comforting. When you put that with "The Word of God is quick and powerful and sharper than a twoedged sword piercing even to the dividing asunder the soul and spirit the joints and marrow and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. You can fool some of the people some of the time YOU CAN FOOL GOD NEVER. Just remember this, there was a society there which most likely set your life beginnings here (God is just, not random) and your life here, will set your life there. Just because the gift of salvation is a Gift from God, doesn't mean that the righteous acts of the saints wont follow you because they will and it is all you can take with you, and the wedding garment is ....I digress
Jeremiah 4:23 I beheld the earth, and, lo, it was without form, and void; and the heavens, and they had no light.
We know from Isaiah 45:18? that He did not create the earth that way. God, 3 verses ago is telling us of DESTRUCTION upon DESTRUCTION, and now He beholds the earth and it is without form and void, and we know in the beginning of this age, the age we will be cast to earth, the earth was........
Jeremiah 4:24 I beheld the mountains, and, lo, they trembled, and all the hills moved lightly.
*******I think this is the calming down of Gods anger, obviously been thinking about it a lot*********
Jeremiah 4:25 I beheld, and, lo, there was no man, and all the birds of the heavens were fled.
The earth is null and void, all the sons are in heaven like before the earth created. There are no animals, no birds, a wilderness, desolate, and in mourning, the heavens BLACK, no sun light, no light at all. Basically dead.
Jeremiah 4:26 I beheld, and, lo, the fruitful place was a wilderness, and all the cities thereof were broken down at the presence of the LORD, and by his fierce anger.
But what was it? It was a fruitful place, cities, Remember "my tents" spoiled, my curtains, in a moment, you know Gods tents here on earth, the place He calls His. He destroyed it all.
Jeremiah 4:27 For thus hath the LORD said, The whole land shall be desolate; yet will I not make a full end.
How do you kill all that you have loved? You find a new way. You give everyone another chance. A chance of their very own. Some will not even need but to be conceived for a moment, they and their hearts, there is no question, they do not need to live in this flesh, they do not need to be tested at all. If you ponder this for a while, much about this life will become very clear. All the whys and why me ,s. Remember God is Just. And we have free will. And the only lives He gets involved in are the elects because they already proved themselves in the first age and God will move them about as He sees fit. Remember the tower of siloam? Were they any bigger sinners? No, earth life happens, freewill must be freewill. But God is Just. He will recompense. I digress alot
Jeremiah 4:28 For this shall the earth mourn, and the heavens above be black; because I have spoken it, I have purposed it, and will not repent, neither will I turn back from it.
Black, ask anyone what happens when the earths temp changes one degree. THE HEAVENS BLACK. Not Noahs flood.
I BEHELD the earth, and lo, it was without form and void. Remember the 3 and 4 verses before. This is not random. There is NO MAN, no bird, no boat. EVERY THING has been in the path of the LORDS anger. The whole land is desolate, this age has come to an end yet not a full end. The earth will mourn, the heavens will be black.
What I find weird is that no one has a problem with this age ending and the new one starting but the thought of "one before this" is just "too much".
Jeremiah 4:19 My bowels, my bowels! I am pained at my very heart; my heart maketh a noise in me; I cannot hold my peace, because thou hast heard, O my soul, the sound of the trumpet, the alarm of war.
Cast down to earth. ****when an age is ended instead of an entire creation, (WHICH GOD SO EASILY COULD HAVE DONE, BUT OBVIOUSLY CHOSE NOT TO CAUSE HERE WE ARE), you have been working on, the souls all must go some where. I believe that this is why there was one heaven and one earth and then there were heavens and earth because of this period between then and when we are put into the flesh*****
Have you ever lost someone so dear that your heart seems to make a noise? You can't breath, while you are breathing, there is no where to go, the world has stopped and you can't start it, you want to go back and if you could you would? What would it take to stop your self from doing that very thing if you ACTUALLY could? How hard it must be......down to your very soul
Satan was Gods "highest, best made, closest". And when that kind of pain lets lose, well, nothing makes it through. Here is how God describes it
Jeremiah 4:20 Destruction upon destruction is cried; for the whole land is spoiled: suddenly are my tents spoiled, and my curtains in a moment.
SUDDENLY, for those who took notes on their "Noahs Flood" we can add this to our growing list of differences sound of trumpet, alarm of war, destruction upon destruction.
Gods decision made. *****dinosaurs died and I think continents separated******
Jeremiah 4:21 How long shall I see the standard, and hear the sound of the trumpet?
Jeremiah 4:22 For my people is foolish, they have not known me; they are sottish children, and they have none understanding: they are wise to do evil, but to do good they have no knowledge.
FOR MY PEOPLE IS FOOLISH, THEY HAVE NOT KNOWN ME, THEY ARE SOTTISH CHILDREN AND THEY HAVE NONE UNDERSTANDING, THEY ARE WISE TO DO EVIL, BUT TO DO GOOD THEY HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE
Does God know us? Foolish and stupid. Nothing in the Word of God can be more comforting. When you put that with "The Word of God is quick and powerful and sharper than a twoedged sword piercing even to the dividing asunder the soul and spirit the joints and marrow and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. You can fool some of the people some of the time YOU CAN FOOL GOD NEVER. Just remember this, there was a society there which most likely set your life beginnings here (God is just, not random) and your life here, will set your life there. Just because the gift of salvation is a Gift from God, doesn't mean that the righteous acts of the saints wont follow you because they will and it is all you can take with you, and the wedding garment is ....I digress
Jeremiah 4:23 I beheld the earth, and, lo, it was without form, and void; and the heavens, and they had no light.
We know from Isaiah 45:18? that He did not create the earth that way. God, 3 verses ago is telling us of DESTRUCTION upon DESTRUCTION, and now He beholds the earth and it is without form and void, and we know in the beginning of this age, the age we will be cast to earth, the earth was........
Jeremiah 4:24 I beheld the mountains, and, lo, they trembled, and all the hills moved lightly.
*******I think this is the calming down of Gods anger, obviously been thinking about it a lot*********
Jeremiah 4:25 I beheld, and, lo, there was no man, and all the birds of the heavens were fled.
The earth is null and void, all the sons are in heaven like before the earth created. There are no animals, no birds, a wilderness, desolate, and in mourning, the heavens BLACK, no sun light, no light at all. Basically dead.
Jeremiah 4:26 I beheld, and, lo, the fruitful place was a wilderness, and all the cities thereof were broken down at the presence of the LORD, and by his fierce anger.
But what was it? It was a fruitful place, cities, Remember "my tents" spoiled, my curtains, in a moment, you know Gods tents here on earth, the place He calls His. He destroyed it all.
Jeremiah 4:27 For thus hath the LORD said, The whole land shall be desolate; yet will I not make a full end.
How do you kill all that you have loved? You find a new way. You give everyone another chance. A chance of their very own. Some will not even need but to be conceived for a moment, they and their hearts, there is no question, they do not need to live in this flesh, they do not need to be tested at all. If you ponder this for a while, much about this life will become very clear. All the whys and why me ,s. Remember God is Just. And we have free will. And the only lives He gets involved in are the elects because they already proved themselves in the first age and God will move them about as He sees fit. Remember the tower of siloam? Were they any bigger sinners? No, earth life happens, freewill must be freewill. But God is Just. He will recompense. I digress alot
Jeremiah 4:28 For this shall the earth mourn, and the heavens above be black; because I have spoken it, I have purposed it, and will not repent, neither will I turn back from it.
Black, ask anyone what happens when the earths temp changes one degree. THE HEAVENS BLACK. Not Noahs flood.
I BEHELD the earth, and lo, it was without form and void. Remember the 3 and 4 verses before. This is not random. There is NO MAN, no bird, no boat. EVERY THING has been in the path of the LORDS anger. The whole land is desolate, this age has come to an end yet not a full end. The earth will mourn, the heavens will be black.
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The study of dinosaurs I will admit is fascinating. This creation had its time, for what ever reason on earth, bot it has no relevance to the dispensation of the sons of God.
That God left such a indisputable amount of evidence concerning the age of the dinosaurs is a mystery. But always be aware that no evidence of man has ever been entangled with that creation.
I am aware that evolutionist think different , of who's opinions have absolutely no regard.
That God left such a indisputable amount of evidence concerning the age of the dinosaurs is a mystery. But always be aware that no evidence of man has ever been entangled with that creation.
I am aware that evolutionist think different , of who's opinions have absolutely no regard.
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I think it depends on how we see glory . Glory, Glory, Glory . It would seem to have been lost in the garden.I think was when his presence came into view. . it set the background. God is light and not alone that he can create it. .
Notice he never calls night or darkness good. His signature of approval. It is a symbol of evil. . no blessing from God
Genesis 1:1-4 King James Version (KJV) In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
It would seem at the end of day 3 it could be reconcked as to when God saw pride in the heart of the most powerful messenger who turned out to be the messenger of lies as the father of lies.
Day four beginning with God transferring the light in respect to His glory and then after the corrupted temporal time keepers . . (Sun and the moon) two witnesses. It served the purpose. God knowing beforehand that men (paganism) would attribute the source of life to the Sun. .
Night God would simply hide his glory
And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it. And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof. And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it. And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there. And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it. Revelation 21:22-26
Notice he never calls night or darkness good. His signature of approval. It is a symbol of evil. . no blessing from God
Genesis 1:1-4 King James Version (KJV) In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
It would seem at the end of day 3 it could be reconcked as to when God saw pride in the heart of the most powerful messenger who turned out to be the messenger of lies as the father of lies.
Day four beginning with God transferring the light in respect to His glory and then after the corrupted temporal time keepers . . (Sun and the moon) two witnesses. It served the purpose. God knowing beforehand that men (paganism) would attribute the source of life to the Sun. .
Night God would simply hide his glory
And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it. And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof. And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it. And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there. And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it. Revelation 21:22-26
I didn't get very far in the video before I turned it off. We had a thread about Gen 1 vs Gen 2 already. I believe that from before the beginning God was. Till after the very end. God will still be. That there is no other that could have or ever did or could have created such a splendid and magnificent universe and that it certainly was not an accident or fluke.
In genesis #1 God created just as it says he did. The only thing I have any doubts about is the time it took but Gen1 was written so we descendants of Adam & Eve and Noah could understand it. God is not subservient to time like everything and everybody else. He surely created Mankind, Men and Women in Gen 1. Then her rested. How long? Nobody knows in human terms.
Later he decided to create a newer and better man (I realize that his is conjecture) so he created Adam then a garden to put him into and take care of but something was still missing so; He, God, Created Eve to help and be Adams mate in Genesis 2. He did not uncreate the earlier creations. Thats why the bread basket of humanity is considered to be Mesopotamia. That's why the earliest known cultivation is believed to have started there. The pre adamic human races perished in the flood that he, God, caused when he repented making man kind. Only the family of Noah were saved. He promised never to do it again by flood.
At the end of the tribulation I think he will clean up the world using fire. We'll have to wait and see. That's my two cents worth.
In genesis #1 God created just as it says he did. The only thing I have any doubts about is the time it took but Gen1 was written so we descendants of Adam & Eve and Noah could understand it. God is not subservient to time like everything and everybody else. He surely created Mankind, Men and Women in Gen 1. Then her rested. How long? Nobody knows in human terms.
Later he decided to create a newer and better man (I realize that his is conjecture) so he created Adam then a garden to put him into and take care of but something was still missing so; He, God, Created Eve to help and be Adams mate in Genesis 2. He did not uncreate the earlier creations. Thats why the bread basket of humanity is considered to be Mesopotamia. That's why the earliest known cultivation is believed to have started there. The pre adamic human races perished in the flood that he, God, caused when he repented making man kind. Only the family of Noah were saved. He promised never to do it again by flood.
At the end of the tribulation I think he will clean up the world using fire. We'll have to wait and see. That's my two cents worth.
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Notice the only "human" bones found are apes. Animals were flesh, sons of God were not. Our proof is written. Seek and ye shall find. It is written in the "here a little there a little", buried treasure on which a firm foundation of the Word can be built upon. We can not understand the end without knowledge of the beginning. Gods Plan for us is, amazingly wonderful. What He is suffering through to get us to the New age that will see no evil, is no less than full and complete love for us. Give thanks to God for the things we don't understand or comprehend because, I have no words. Let the spirt speak for you in silent prayer to Him.
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The Bible wasn't written by or to Atheist's. Even Egyptian scientists believed in a god, or gods. That's why he is identified as the Lord God, second to none. Lord means Head, Boss and owner too, He didn't have to prove himself. Theism relates to belief in a god but Ashiest means against theism.
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lord
[lôrd]
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[lôrd]
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- someone or something having power, authority, or influence; a master or ruler.
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master · lord and master · ruler · leader · chief · superior · monarch · sovereign · king · emperor · prince · governor · commander · captain · overlord · suzerain · baron · potentate · liege · liege lord
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