Yes, Jesus's death on the cross pays for the sins of all that he died for, which were only those that God gave to him and they will live in heaven eternally. After the sacrifice was made, God looks upon them as holy and without blame. They do, however commit sins, due to their fleshly nature, as they live their lives here on earth, which does not affect their eternal destination. Their sins do, however, affect their fellowship with God until they repent. All sins of God's elect must be atoned for.Does Jesus' death on the cross pay for sin? If Jesus' death on the cross pays for sin, why does it pay for sin? And if Jesus' death on the cross pays for sin, does it pay for everyone's sin?
Does Jesus' death on the cross pay for sin? If Jesus' death on the cross pays for sin, why does it pay for sin? And if Jesus' death on the cross pays for sin, does it pay for everyone's sin?
The trouble with your thinking is that only his sheep hear his voice and understand it.The death of Jesus on the cross pays for the sins of people who believe Jesus and trust that His death on the cross pays for their sins..
The penalty for sin must be paid if Perfection is to be maintained.. Otherwise God would be seen to be corrupt turning a blind eye to evil.. But God is perfect and that's why we need to be redeemed by the payment of the penalty of our sins..
Jesus by His Death on the cross has secured the price to pay for the penalty for all the sins of the people who believe Him and trust in His payment.. The reason why Jesus can potentially pay for the sins of all the people in the world is because He is a Perfect sacrifice.. He is the Lamb of God.. The lambs that where sacrificed on the first Passover where to be unblemished lambs and their blood was put on the doors of the homes of the Jews so that the Angel of death would Pass Over their homes and would not take the life of the first born in that household.. The Angel would only take the life of the first born of each household that where not ""Covered by the Blood of a Lamb""..
The first Passover was a symbolic shadow of the future.. Jesus was the Lamb of God who took away the sins of the world and He was executed on the day of Passover in i believe 30ad.. And anyone who believes and trusts in Jesus is covered by the blood of Jesus and thus on the day of judgement the Angels will not cast those people into the eternal Lake of fire.. They shall be deemed righteous on the day of judgement because of the Blood of the Lamb of God and worthy to enter into Gods perfect eternal existence..
That's not what scripture says 2"He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world."The Book of 1st John chapter 2Yes, Jesus's death on the cross pays for the sins of all that he died for, which were only those that God gave to him and they will live in heaven eternally. ...
How do you consolidate that statement with the one you made here in post #548The trouble with your thinking is that only his sheep hear his voice and understand it.
I think you just made an excellent contribution to this discussion. Well said.The crown of thorns gives an interesting perspective. Thorns are branches that miss the mark and do not bear fruit. When they were humiliating the Lord He was getting ready to send a message to all who believe. They crushed that crown down onto his head make many long deep holes in His head. after He died and had gone into the tomb it was time for the resurrection and the Lord came out of His tomb with the wound in His side, nail marks in each wrist and more nail holes in His ankles for a total of five wounds. The marks from the crown of thorns were gone. Those thorns represented our sin and if there were any of our sin left He could not have been resurrected because the wage of sin is death. Not only were our sins left in His tomb He bore on His Body how He had gotten rid of our sins. Five the number of His wounds is the number of Grace. I would say yes, yes, a million times yes.
Yes.Does Jesus' death on the cross pay for sin?
Hebrews 9:22If Jesus' death on the cross pays for sin, why does it pay for sin?
Yes.And if Jesus' death on the cross pays for sin, does it pay for everyone's sin?
The trouble with your thinking is that only his sheep hear his voice and understand it.
Yes, God does have foreknowledge and foreknew that no one would knock.The trouble with your thinking is you believe God creates one group of people with no other option but to be sheep and another group of people with no other option but to be goats..
Yes His sheep hear His voice.. But each person is invited to come into the sheephold.. God just foreknows who will knock on the Door and come in and who will refuse to come..
John 10 does not mention anything about knocking. The sheepfold is God's elect on the earth. God is the porter. The door is the entrance to his elect (the sheep). Jesus is the shepherd of the sheep. God opens the door so that Jesus can enter into the sheepfold of his elect. When Jesus enters in the sheep hear his voice and he becomes the door and gives them eternal life. The only reference to "knock" is found in Matt, Luke and Rev, and the ones knocking are already his sheep.The trouble with your thinking is you believe God creates one group of people with no other option but to be sheep and another group of people with no other option but to be goats..
Yes His sheep hear His voice.. But each person is invited to come into the sheephold.. God just foreknows who will knock on the Door and come in and who will refuse to come..
That would have to be "the whole world of believers" otherwise, you would have to ignore John 6:38 which is not the whole world of mankind.Yes.
Hebrews 9:22
According to the law, in fact, nearly everything must be purified with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness.
Yes.
1 John 2:2
He Himself is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world.
Just curious where it says the wounds from the thorns were not visible.The crown of thorns gives an interesting perspective. Thorns are branches that miss the mark and do not bear fruit. When they were humiliating the Lord He was getting ready to send a message to all who believe. They crushed that crown down onto his head make many long deep holes in His head. after He died and had gone into the tomb it was time for the resurrection and the Lord came out of His tomb with the wound in His side, nail marks in each wrist and more nail holes in His ankles for a total of five wounds. The marks from the crown of thorns were gone. Those thorns represented our sin and if there were any of our sin left He could not have been resurrected because the wage of sin is death. Not only were our sins left in His tomb He bore on His Body how He had gotten rid of our sins. Five the number of His wounds is the number of Grace. I would say yes, yes, a million times yes.
Since the Bible is crystal clear that all may be saved if all will repent and believe, it should be obvious that some don't really like the grace of God (deep down).The trouble with your thinking is you believe God creates one group of people with no other option but to be sheep and another group of people with no other option but to be goats
Does Jesus' death on the cross pay for sin? If Jesus' death on the cross pays for sin, why does it pay for sin? And if Jesus' death on the cross pays for sin, does it pay for everyone's sin?
Just curious where it says the wounds from the thorns were not visible.
I rather think the thorns represent man's dead works to earn Salvation.
Just curious where it says the wounds from the thorns were not visible.
We can assume that each wound was listed and the only wounds not listed after the Resurrection are the wounds from the crown of thorns.
John 1:29That would have to be "the whole world of believers" otherwise, you would have to ignore John 6:38 which is not the whole world of mankind.
Yes. I think this is a pretty good summation.I believe every sinner had their sin paid for in full by the Death of the Lord Jesus. I believe every sinner has the free will to accept that bill paid in full by the Passover Lamb of God, Jesus Christ but not everyone will accept His payment. As each goat who rejects the Lord's sacrifice is assembled they will know a few things.
1) the love of God for them and their separation from Him forever. This I think will be the one piece of knowledge that will make hell, hell.
2)the knowledge that they have an unused paid bill for their sin and their rejection of that Paid in Full sacrifice.
3) the knowledge that the "chief of sinners" me and a whole bunch just like me have been taken and the only reason is we took the promise in faith.
4) every knee will bow before Him and will know before they enter eternity headed in the wrong way will leave here with the knowledge all the Lord and all He did for each of us and this is going to be the worst part of being thrown into the Lake of Fire. That knowledge that we turned our back on the Lord will be unbearable.
What do you think is going to be the worst part of being in hell will be?