some people resurrected to where?
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The title 'son of God' is not for angels.
Heb 1:4 So He became as far superior to the angels as the name He has inherited is excellent beyond theirs. 5For to which of the angels did God ever say: “You are My Son; today I have become Your Father”? Or again: “I will be His Father, and He will be My Son”?
Proverbs 8:
22The LORD created me (wisdom) as His first course,c
before His works of old.
23From everlasting I was established,
from the beginning, before the earth began.
......
27I was there when He established the heavens,
when He inscribed the horizon on the face of the deep,
28when He established the clouds above,
when the fountains of the deep gushed forth,
29when He set a boundary for the sea,
so that the waters would not surpass His command,
when He marked out the foundations of the earth.
30Then I was a skilled craftsman at His side,
and His delightd day by day,
rejoicing always in His presence.
31I was rejoicing in His whole world,
delighting together in the sons of men.
Heb 1:4 So He became as far superior to the angels as the name He has inherited is excellent beyond theirs. 5For to which of the angels did God ever say: “You are My Son; today I have become Your Father”? Or again: “I will be His Father, and He will be My Son”?
Proverbs 8:
22The LORD created me (wisdom) as His first course,c
before His works of old.
23From everlasting I was established,
from the beginning, before the earth began.
......
27I was there when He established the heavens,
when He inscribed the horizon on the face of the deep,
28when He established the clouds above,
when the fountains of the deep gushed forth,
29when He set a boundary for the sea,
so that the waters would not surpass His command,
when He marked out the foundations of the earth.
30Then I was a skilled craftsman at His side,
and His delightd day by day,
rejoicing always in His presence.
31I was rejoicing in His whole world,
delighting together in the sons of men.
And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God.
Question 1: what makes the small dead and the great dead different ? And which will you and I be and why ?
Question 2: Is this judgment for Christians (for lack of a better term ) good or bad ?
To me if I am standing before God as a Christian I will rejoice no matter what I must suffer.
How great is His mercy !!!!
Question 1: what makes the small dead and the great dead different ? And which will you and I be and why ?
Question 2: Is this judgment for Christians (for lack of a better term ) good or bad ?
To me if I am standing before God as a Christian I will rejoice no matter what I must suffer.
How great is His mercy !!!!
As I understand it, the category of people being "judged" at the "Great White Throne" is... "the DEAD". These are those who were NOT "raised/resurrected" to enjoy the MK age (as ALL "saints" of ALL time periods WILL be present to enjoy [the MK age]), OR those who will have DIED DURING the MK age ("death" will be much more rare in the MK age, reserved only for the rebellious); and...
THIS "judgment" (GWTj) correlates with the SECOND of the TWO "PUNISH" words in Isaiah 24:21-22[23]; the FIRST of the TWO "PUNISH" words (covered in vv.21-22a) being parallel [time-wise] with the events/timing of Revelation 19:19,21/16:14-16/20:5 (i.e. at the time of His Second Coming to the earth, FOR the commencement of the promised and prophesied earthly Millennial Kingdom--that is, 1000 years BEFORE the GWTj).
The "GWTj" does not involve "the Church which is His body," who will have experienced the "BEMA seat" (for "rewards") well before this point in time; and it also does not involve the rest of the "saints" (of all OTHER time periods) who will have been either been "resurrected" to enter the MK age (1000 yrs BEFORE the GWTj occurs) [ike Dan12:13, Matt8:11 and its parallel, Job19:25-27, and Rev20:4b, etc], OR are "still-living" to enter the MK age [like Dan12:12, Matt13:24,30,39,40,49-50, and Matt25:31-34, etc] (I believe Jesus' words in John 11:25-26 covers EACH of these TWO)
All of this brings me to the conclusion that the GWTj is for all of "the DEAD [/unsaved]" of all times.
No "believers/saints" here, at the GWTj.
The phrase "small and great" is used elsewhere in Scripture, and seemingly simply means that no one will be excluded:
https://www.blueletterbible.org/search/search.cfm?Criteria=small+and+great&t=KJV#s=s_primary_0_1
No.
THIS "judgment" (GWTj) correlates with the SECOND of the TWO "PUNISH" words in Isaiah 24:21-22[23]; the FIRST of the TWO "PUNISH" words (covered in vv.21-22a) being parallel [time-wise] with the events/timing of Revelation 19:19,21/16:14-16/20:5 (i.e. at the time of His Second Coming to the earth, FOR the commencement of the promised and prophesied earthly Millennial Kingdom--that is, 1000 years BEFORE the GWTj).
The "GWTj" does not involve "the Church which is His body," who will have experienced the "BEMA seat" (for "rewards") well before this point in time; and it also does not involve the rest of the "saints" (of all OTHER time periods) who will have been either been "resurrected" to enter the MK age (1000 yrs BEFORE the GWTj occurs) [ike Dan12:13, Matt8:11 and its parallel, Job19:25-27, and Rev20:4b, etc], OR are "still-living" to enter the MK age [like Dan12:12, Matt13:24,30,39,40,49-50, and Matt25:31-34, etc] (I believe Jesus' words in John 11:25-26 covers EACH of these TWO)
All of this brings me to the conclusion that the GWTj is for all of "the DEAD [/unsaved]" of all times.
No "believers/saints" here, at the GWTj.
The phrase "small and great" is used elsewhere in Scripture, and seemingly simply means that no one will be excluded:
https://www.blueletterbible.org/search/search.cfm?Criteria=small+and+great&t=KJV#s=s_primary_0_1
No.
Always remember that Christ was reading from the book of LIFE. This is a spiritual term. The book of life contained the names of those who where judged to have spiritual life. The condition of the name of whom was written in this book is what is being brought before Christ. The results will be for all to see BUT no one will be cast out from before the Lord.
^ I made a post on this point, some time back, so will post it here:
[quoting that post]
...here's how I'm leaning (toward understanding) with regard to "the book of life":
⦁ it seems to me that "the book of life" pertains to all who have lived (one's name can be "blotted out" of this book [this seems to be the implication per Rev3:5 - "He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but […]"])
⦁ "the Lamb's book of life" pertains to all who are SAVED (one's name cannot be "blotted out" of THIS book... one's name is [shown as] only "written in" or "not written in" the Lamb's book of life [see Rev21:27 for the former ("having been written [perfect participle] in"); and Rev13:8 for the latter ("not have been written [perfect tense] in") of these two]---and note: I believe the way that the esv has Rev13:8 is not correct; it should read "slain FROM [apo]" not "written BEFORE [pro] the foundation of the world"; and 17:8 speaks of "the book of life" instead [see first point, above])
⦁ I see a distinction in the two phrases of Psalm 69:28 [that is, two separate actions (seemingly in two separate "books"/"records" [SEE ALSO Ex32:32-33])], "Let them be blotted out of the book of the living, and not be written with the righteous."
Just my two cents on this particular point... (subject to "change," I suppose...
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[end of quoting that post]
Hope that helps you see my perspective on this point you've made.
[quoting that post]
...here's how I'm leaning (toward understanding) with regard to "the book of life":
⦁ it seems to me that "the book of life" pertains to all who have lived (one's name can be "blotted out" of this book [this seems to be the implication per Rev3:5 - "He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but […]"])
⦁ "the Lamb's book of life" pertains to all who are SAVED (one's name cannot be "blotted out" of THIS book... one's name is [shown as] only "written in" or "not written in" the Lamb's book of life [see Rev21:27 for the former ("having been written [perfect participle] in"); and Rev13:8 for the latter ("not have been written [perfect tense] in") of these two]---and note: I believe the way that the esv has Rev13:8 is not correct; it should read "slain FROM [apo]" not "written BEFORE [pro] the foundation of the world"; and 17:8 speaks of "the book of life" instead [see first point, above])
⦁ I see a distinction in the two phrases of Psalm 69:28 [that is, two separate actions (seemingly in two separate "books"/"records" [SEE ALSO Ex32:32-33])], "Let them be blotted out of the book of the living, and not be written with the righteous."
Just my two cents on this particular point... (subject to "change," I suppose...
)[end of quoting that post]
Hope that helps you see my perspective on this point you've made.