Baby Boomers

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Lanolin

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Yes my mum is selfish and so is my dad, but I dont let that bother me. I just look after other children the best I can because they need to be cared for when their parents dont. And I will look after my parents even though they are selfish and its hard to deal with their attitudes. GOd has shown me how to deal with that.
 

Lanolin

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People need to look at the economics of raising a family these days. Its much harder than it was for boomers. I think its was milton economics that changed it all and assumed people would be selfish and in it for themselves.
I see retired people living lives of luxury while their offspring can barely feed themselves. If jobs went under they would be one step away from being homeless. When you constantly have to worry about paying a mortgage, you are not free you are in DEBT.

They have a name for it SKIERS spending the kids inheritance.
 
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Miri

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Lanolin, I kind of get the feeling from your posts (others too) that you’ve had a hard life and not really dealt with it.
Correct me if I have got this wrong.

comparing your self to others really doesn’t help. Believe me I’ve been there I was brought up in foster care and have had no end of problems

Maybe you need to seek out some more help to deal with family matters or maybe we can pray for you on CC if there is anything specific?

Just concerned about you.
You sound a bit down.
 

Lanolin

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I think people just assume if you are a young person alive today you have it easy.

No we dont sorry just being honest. Many of us millenials should not compare ouselves to the selfish boomer generation. But the thing is THEY, the boomers are constsntly comparing us. They dont realise the world has changed. Its not the same!
 

Lanolin

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Prayers are always welcome. Not just for me but for all young people.
 
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Looks like we are in the minority here. Talking about baby boomers or millenials is unbiblical apparently.
Looks like we are in the minority here. Talking about baby boomers or millenials is unbiblical apparently.
Couldn't find either Babyboomer or Millenial in a search on Blue Letter Bible so it is definitely unbiblical. :^)
 

Magenta

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@Mag: Very interesting vid Mag.
My Mum who is nearing 80 years old, would say to people now - You just get up and get on with it. My parents got no social security (SS) when we were all growing up, despite having only one income - they weren't entitled to anything from the government. They never scammed anyone out of SS money, lied or cheated (though many we knew did). They had and still have good values. My Dad worked very long hours (for over 55 years fulltime), and was quite often away overnight for work, so Mum was the disciplinarian. And boy, you didn't back chat her, or you got whipped with a belt - fair dinkum hey. She said you just did the best you could with what little you had.
My Mum often says that people are too babied now, and I think oftentimes that she is right.
Hello Tasha :) My understanding of social security (in the Sates, though I am in Canada) is that people put their own money into it like a pension plan, but then the government used the money for something else (in other words, they stole it) and then acted as if people were asking for hand-outs when they were not. Here we do have OAS (Old Age Security) which anyone who is a citizen/landed immigrant(?) over 65 can collect, whether they contributed to the economy or not. We also have CPP (Canada Pension Plan). Some people here have fabulous pension plans which they have paid into... working for the government seems to pay the most in that regard.

Anywho… I am glad you found the video interesting. I did too :D Though I did not agree with all points, especially the part about our parents' generation making their lives all about their children. My parents had eleven children, and our lives as children revolved around looking after everybody else. My mother was also the disciplinarian because my dad was so busy providing for the family, working a full time job and having other money-making enterprises on the side, such as owning rental properties and selling produce a farmer's markets, something I voluntarily joined him and my brothers in doing as an eight year old to escape the never-ending dullness of women's work :devilish:
 

Ghoti2

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Hello Tasha :) My understanding of social security (in the Sates, though I am in Canada) is that people put their own money into it like a pension plan, but then the government used the money for something else (in other words, they stole it) and then acted as if people were asking for hand-outs when they were not. Here we do have OAS (Old Age Security) which anyone who is a citizen/landed immigrant(?) over 65 can collect, whether they contributed to the economy or not. We also have CPP (Canada Pension Plan). Some people here have fabulous pension plans which they have paid into... working for the government seems to pay the most in that regard.

Anywho… I am glad you found the video interesting. I did too :D Though I did not agree with all points, especially the part about our parents' generation making their lives all about their children. My parents had eleven children, and our lives as children revolved around looking after everybody else. My mother was also the disciplinarian because my dad was so busy providing for the family, working a full time job and having other money-making enterprises on the side, such as owning rental properties and selling produce a farmer's markets, something I voluntarily joined him and my brothers in doing as an eight year old to escape the never-ending dullness of women's work :devilish:
You are correct about USA SS. The only thing I might add is that at retirement you get a sum commiserate with what you put in over the decades. If you only paid in a small amount, compared with someone else, you receive a smaller monthly check than they do.
 

Magenta

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You are correct about USA SS. The only thing I might add is that at retirement you get a sum commiserate with what you put in over the decades. If you only paid in a small amount, compared with someone else, you receive a smaller monthly check than they do.
Yes, it is the same here for CPP, as each receives according to some calculated percentage of how much they paid in over the years, and how many years they worked and contributed etc, though there are ceilings on the amounts paid out...
 

Ghoti2

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Yes, it is the same here for CPP, as each receives according to some calculated percentage of how much they paid in over the years, and how many years they worked and contributed etc, though there are ceilings on the amounts paid out...
Figuring only straight capital (ignoring all the thousands and thousands of dollars interest the government could have made off the money I gave them), I would have to live to about 105 years of age to break even.

And if you die before retirement, (even one day before) your survivor gets only $255 dollars. The government keeps the thousands and thousands the deceased paid in prior to their death.
 

Ghoti2

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Are we the lucky generation? The ones who got it easy? And will leave a legacy of problems?
Climate change protestors usually come from a younger demograph . Younger people say they will never own their own home. Life is harder for them perhaps.
Life is usually harder for anyone who whimpers instead of working.
 

Nehemiah6

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If you want to be a millionaire, basically you have to gamble. And even if you take risks in business, you might win big, but you also LOSE big. A steady job is different and there are not much steady jobs for millenials these days. We have to start from ZERO. Hard work is no guarantee because even if you work hard, you often dont get anywhere but stressed out working for someone else.
There are not just those two options (as you seem to think). There are many people who are self-employed, many others who are entrepreneurs (without being millionaires). As you say, the idea that hard work at a job will be well-rewarded is not necessarily true. There are politics in every work place, and they have a serious impact on what happens. And what governments do (or do not do) have a huge impact on the economy, jobs, taxes, pensions, etc.

For decades, Western politicians and governments have been shipping all the good jobs to China and Southeast Asia, while causing industry and manufacturing in North America to go down the drain. And this is while the Baby Boomers stood by and let the politicians get away with this. Now this bogus Climate Change Movement is another ploy to destroy Western economies and make them into Third World countries, and the millennials are clamoring for this nonsense. Little Greta has no clue that she's a pawn in this game.

The antidote would have been a strong, independent *press* (now media networks) which would give the general public the truth about what has happened (and is happening). Instead the Mainstream Media (MSM) are simply propagandists for the Left-Liberals, Socialists, and Globalists.
 

melita916

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according to google, i'm a millennial, and my parents are boomers. not only are they boomers, they also immigrated to the U.S. with not much and not knowing the language. so from the start, i saw my parents work hard to obtain everything we needed. when there was a little extra, then we were able to obtain other things. i honestly did not know i grew up "poor" until i reached college, and it's only because i saw how others lived. my parents didn't have to pay for my college education because at the age of 13, i already knew that melita, with the help of the Lord, needed to plan ahead to pay for college.

i guess i learned from my parents example. trust the Lord. work hard. live within your means. give God the glory.
 
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morefaithrequired

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I’m 51 I look after my aunt 84, who has
Stage 4 Copd on oxygen, heart failure, dementia, chronic kidney failure. As well as working part time. We have carers who visit 3 times a day but im the one who is there for her day and night. 7/24

I’ve done it now to this degree 7 years. It’s the hardest thing I have ever done. I have saved her life more times than I can remember but I’m glad she is loving at home and not in a care home. She is a child of God too. 🙂
I think I owe you at least one prayer, after reading that.
Take care Miri.
 

Magenta

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One night while I was preparing to leave my daughter's house, the TV was on downstairs with nobody watching it, so I started flipping through the channels to see what was on and came across Saturday Night Live with Miley Cyrus hosting…and the skits they did on millennials were hilarious! Part of it is here.
 
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tasha66

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you dont like being classified as an Australian?
Technically, I'm only a citizen as I was brought to Australia when very young by my parents. But as I'm now a citizen, then I am an Aussie. I speak Aussie lingo, went to school here, and think I'm really lucky to be living here, though the humidity is rising with summer now here and it's getting hard to bear :(
When we start classifying people as certain things (like baby boomers), then you form an immediate impression of them, which may be wrong.
For example, I was watching a program about when people were born into the Nazi regime. They were actually indoctrinated and raised to believe that all Jews were dishonest, were dirty, would steal from you, kill your children, rape your daughter, etc. Some of these older Nazis were interviewed for the program, and because they were raised to believe all of this, they are still anti-semitic, and still believe in Hitler's grand plan and the 1000 year reich. It was obvious that they missed their youth and the power that they had over people then. One officer stated point blank he did not believe in the holocaust and said "Where is the evidence?"
Each generation makes mistakes and contributes something to humanity. But I do think labelling people and generations creates sometimes false & often negative impessions, even before you meet them, or you might never meet them.
There are so many new terms like X, Y generation, that I can't even keep up with them.
I know these terms are used to describe a certain generation born in certain times, but I reckon they are degrading and quite often misleading.
 
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morefaithrequired

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don't mind Ellen's dry wit now and then....gotta love 'we baby boomers used to drink from garden hoses"