Is suicide a sin? This trouble confusing me for a long time.

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PennEd

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The sad truth of the Hong Kong situation is that mainland China will ultimately crush the protests. Please do not fool yourself into thinking differently.

Find your solace in the Lord.

If this young man who killed himself was born again he is saved. But I’m certain the Lord didn’t want him to murder himself .
 

icequeen

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We er not to judge, but to feel compassion and to support eachother.

I think taking your life is a sin. But we serve a mercyful God. We don't know the full width of His mercy through Christ. And we never know the full story behind a tragic death.

If a kid is bullied into desperation and takes in his own life- who is the sinner?
 
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This is my belief based on scripture and the revelation revealed to me. Let' start at the beginning to better help you understand the question that you are posing and perhaps give you a deeper understanding of that question and all it in tales.
Genesis 3
Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the Lord God had made. He said to the woman, “Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden’?
13 Then the Lord God said to the woman, “What is this you have done?”
The woman said, “The serpent deceived me, and I ate.”

Luke 10
16 “Whoever listens to you listens to me; whoever rejects you rejects me; but whoever rejects me rejects him who sent me.”
17 The seventy-two returned with joy and said, “Lord, even the demons submit to us in your name.”
18 He replied, “I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven.

Matthew 25
31 “When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne. 32 All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.

34 “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’
37 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’
40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’
41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.

Now I ask you this question, how does removing one of God's creations benefit GOD? Suicide is a selfish act that is brought into existence by spirits or voices that reside in the head or heart and as you can plainly see God says my sheep hear my voice, As with Eve in the Garden of Eden when she said Satan’s voice beguiled me (which means it was more enticing)
 
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So as with anything else not only will we go to Hell for Suicide but anything else that falls outside of the will of GOD. As I am struggling daily for God to work on me and change me for His purpose.
 

icequeen

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So as with anything else not only will we go to Hell for Suicide but anything else that falls outside of the will of GOD. As I am struggling daily for God to work on me and change me for His purpose.
Yes. Suicide is a sin. And the wages of sin is death. In the Old Covenant. Praise God we Jesus died for us and our sins. It might be you are without sin, but I need Christ. Because I am a sinner.

Once I fell into temptation to take my own life. I took an overdose of pills because the life was too much for me to handle. I saw no way out. God saved me from my sin that time. Another time I was heart broken. A man told me that not only did he not love me, but my life was without purpose for God when I wasn't healed. I wrote a farewell letter and went to my car just to drive into an approaching truck. As I was getting ready, I got a note saying I was loved, and that I was going to find a man that loved me the way I am. Well. That man is yet to be found, but it stopped me.

God saved me. For some reason He doesn't stop everyone. That doesn't mean they can't be forgiven.
 

SamsonHorace

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We er not to judge, but to feel compassion and to support eachother.

I think taking your life is a sin. But we serve a mercyful God. We don't know the full width of His mercy through Christ. And we never know the full story behind a tragic death.

If a kid is bullied into desperation and takes in his own life- who is the sinner?
A man steals money is his fault,
a man steals bread is the social's fault,
a man dead for defending freedom is the leader's fault. The same thing, these things were happened in Hong Kong and Mainland.
An old woman steals half of pound pork, a man killed himself for freedom and a poor mother killed her 3 children for tell the world that the local gov doesn't pay her 40 dollars subsistence allowance for a long time. Who's sin? Carrie Lam and Wang qishan 's sin. They didn't hear people 's voice, they only know kill people who shout the voice. However, I should pray for them, I wish they realize their sins and commit to do something for people .
 
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icequeen

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A man steals money is his fault,
a man steals bread is the social's fault,
a man dead for defending freedom is the leader's fault. The same thing, these things were happened in Hong Kong and Mainland.
An old woman steals half of pound pork, a man killed himself for freedom and a poor mother killed her 3 children for tell the world that the local gov doesn't pay her 40 dollars subsistence allowance for a long time. Who's sin? Carrie Lam and Wang qishan 's sin. They didn't hear people 's voice, they only know kill people who shout the voice. However, I should pray for them, I wish they realize their sins and commit to do something for people . View attachment 207757
It is sometimes a heavy duty we have as Christians to pray for our leaders. Even the corrupt and evil ones. I am praying with you, Brother.
 
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And I pray with you that God fills you and keeps you whole, for just as you, I am married and I feel as though I have no one. The reason for this is my desire is for Christ as I grow older and wiser and as for her well...... Just pray for us please.
 

icequeen

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And I pray with you that God fills you and keeps you whole, for just as you, I am married and I feel as though I have no one. The reason for this is my desire is for Christ as I grow older and wiser and as for her well...... Just pray for us please.
Praying for you and your wife. I am sorry I was a bit harsh earlier.

Lord. I pray for Standingwolf. You see how he wants to follow You and serve You. I thank you for renewing his heart and for leading Him to you. I praise you for being the good sheperd, always seeking the lost sheep. I pray for Standingwolf's marriage and his wife. I pray they will seek you together. That they will praise you together and serve you together. There is nothing so beautiful than when a husband and wife get together to pray and worship, and I pray this will be the life of this marriage, Lord. I pray that the two of them shall once again be one in You, dear Father.

I pray this in Jesus' name.
Amen
 

SamsonHorace

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Yes. Suicide is a sin. And the wages of sin is death. In the Old Covenant. Praise God we Jesus died for us and our sins. It might be you are without sin, but I need Christ. Because I am a sinner.

Once I fell into temptation to take my own life. I took an overdose of pills because the life was too much for me to handle. I saw no way out. God saved me from my sin that time. Another time I was heart broken. A man told me that not only did he not love me, but my life was without purpose for God when I wasn't healed. I wrote a farewell letter and went to my car just to drive into an approaching truck. As I was getting ready, I got a note saying I was loved, and that I was going to find a man that loved me the way I am. Well. That man is yet to be found, but it stopped me.

God saved me. For some reason He doesn't stop everyone. That doesn't mean they can't be forgiven.
I think the life is very wonderful if you find the right way! Do not struggle with loves, find a Mr. right ,forget the ex. I was fat and disliked everyone in the past, but I finally found a way: I involved two revolutions! The founder of the expose revolution always teaches 400 million people how to have a good life, he said doing exercise makes you happy! after did lots of exercise, I lose 37 pounds ! I protested in HK , two million people have the same thoughts and sing Hallelujah together, I realized eliminate Communist party is my happy thing, this is my value and responsibility in the world. Find your right way in your life ! I pray for you dear sister. 🙏🙏🙏
 

SamsonHorace

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And I pray with you that God fills you and keeps you whole, for just as you, I am married and I feel as though I have no one. The reason for this is my desire is for Christ as I grow older and wiser and as for her well...... Just pray for us please.
Dear heavenly Father
Could you help Standingwolf and his wife conquer the illness ?
They love you forever.
In jesus name
Amen 🙏🙏🙏
 

SamsonHorace

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Praying for you and your wife. I am sorry I was a bit harsh earlier.

Lord. I pray for Standingwolf. You see how he wants to follow You and serve You. I thank you for renewing his heart and for leading Him to you. I praise you for being the good sheperd, always seeking the lost sheep. I pray for Standingwolf's marriage and his wife. I pray they will seek you together. That they will praise you together and serve you together. There is nothing so beautiful than when a husband and wife get together to pray and worship, and I pray this will be the life of this marriage, Lord. I pray that the two of them shall once again be one in You, dear Father.

I pray this in Jesus' name.
Amen
You wrote prayer very faithful.... You made me is shy to share my prayer. Forgive my limited English 😅
 

icequeen

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You wrote prayer very faithful.... You made me is shy to share my prayer. Forgive my limited English 😅
Don't be. I feel I come short as well, because English is not my first language either. You do well, Brother.
 

SamsonHorace

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Don't be. I feel I come short as well, because English is not my first language either. You do well, Brother.
Where are you from ? I'm from Britain, oh no,Hong kong.😂
 

SamsonHorace

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Don't be. I feel I come short as well, because English is not my first language either. You do well, Brother.
Hong Kong was belongs to Elizabeth second in the past, so we always say: I was Elizabeth 's child.
 
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How will you ask for forgiveness if you are dead and if you have to ask before the act then you have acknowledge that it is wrong in the first place.
 

SamsonHorace

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Regardless of whether or not it’s a sin, Christians have salvation. Gods gifts are irrevocable.
Mr. Leung shall be happy to see we still remember him for six months ! Everything is just beginning 🙏🙏🙏
 

SamsonHorace

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I don't know did Leung pray to God for forgiveness, but I believe he did it because 80% people who believes in God in Hong Kong.