Let me guess, you've really not read that much of the Gospel so as to know the answer to that.
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Locoponydirtman
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You guessed wrong.
I thought you said that I wouldn't hear from you again.
So I don't know where this is coming from,
Wow... what a shame that Spurgeon said thatIn case you haven't read the SoD.
Canons of Dort - text(or Synod of Dort) full text
As for the comment that Reformed Theology's Gospel is different than the Gospel in the Bible, that's true.
One of the largest Denominations under the RT umbrella is Calvinism.
In brief, Reformed Theology declares that Jesus died only for those lost souls whom the Father gave Him to save before the world, much less sin itself, came to exist.
And those persons are totally depraved as natural born sinners until God's Holy Spirit enters them so as to make them to be that chosen one, "the elect", who are then able to comprehend the Gospel Good News, and then God makes them to have faith in what they're being taught, as that Gospel Good News.
Because, their God Given Total Depravity makes them in their natural state as one Totally Depraved, unable to understand anything of God.
None of this was taught by Christ. The well known verse in The Book of John chapter 3 verse 16 itself refutes in toto RT's declaration.
For God so loved the world
That He gave His only Begotten Son
That Whosoever believes in Him
Shall not Perish (in their sins)
But have immortal life.
The keywords in that single verse are bolded as that which renounces RT's doctrine in its entirety. RT actually blasphemes God by making Him out to be an immoral monster. An all knowing creator that creates a human race totally incapable of comprehending spiritual things, and in that God given state are damned to Hell. Unless or until any one in that population of humans is a chosen one, an elected one, of God so as to be made , not by their own choice because the Totally Depraved are incapable of exercising free will/choice of their own accord, but because God made them to be in His grace. And then once there , He made them to be able to hold faith in His word. Something they were made, by God and at their birth, prior to this God given transformation into grace and faith, incapable of doing.
Jesus died only for those people God would change like that.
RT also teaches Double Predestination, which what I just described is in a nutshell known as, Predestination. But Double Predestination is the belief that not only all that I posted above is a matter of God predetermining whom He would put into His grace and bring to faith but, He also predetermined whom would be born so as to perish in their sin and go to Hell. All before anything came to exist.
Think about what all that says about God.
I'll help; We're all pawns, and God is the back row in this chess game where some of us pawns will be saved from God. And some will go to Hell thanks to God.
That's why RT rewrites the actual Gospel to its own ends.
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Locoponydirtman
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Spurgeon said, “I do not hesitate to say, that Phariseeism is mixed with Hyper-Calvinism more than with any other sect in the world.”Wow... what a shame that Spurgeon said that
Spurgeon said “I am as firm a believer in the doctrines of grace as any man living, and a true Calvinist after the order of John Calvin himself; but if it be thought an evil thing to bid the sinner lay hold of eternal life, I will yet be more evil in this respect, and herein imitate my Lord and his apostles, who, though they taught that salvation is of grace, and grace alone, feared not to speak to men as rational beings and responsible agents… Beloved, cling to the great truth of electing love and divine sovereignty, but let not these bind you in fetters when, in the power of the Holy Ghost, you become fishers of men.” Many ministers and churches today have been thwarted from freely obeying the Great Commission for this very reason.
Here is a couple of Spurgeon quotes for you.
Well then, your question was unnecessary if that is true.
Really? Where did I say that?
It is coming from your having asked me a question, to which I offered a reply.
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Locoponydirtman
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Whispered
Well-known member
Nov 27, 2019
#73
"We won't speak again."
Yes, I addressed you after you quoted me above, having forgotten this promise that you had made.
It's a good thing I remembered it before too long.
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Locoponydirtman
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You're not making any sense. Do you imbibe? Post #73 is a post by ieuan, not you. But I will take your advice and cease addressing you from now on. I took people I put on my ignore list off after reading someone post as to why they do not avail themselves of that option even when set upon by some of the worst here.
I realize I shouldn't have made that choice as concerns your name. My bad, easily corrected.
P/S great way to get out of answering my questions concerning your earlier reply. Nice trick.
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7seasrekeyed
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whispered...quick...there is this dude in a red suit got his mitts on that adorable fawn...oh but wait...that wolfy looking blue eyed Samurai dog husky wolf creature might save the day
don't mind me
I had a root canal done today and I only have OTC pain dealers. good thing I am high tolerance.
at least the tooth is save able...will be there for the Christmas meal with the neighbors
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7seasrekeyed
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7seasrekeyed
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SAVED!whispered...quick...there is this dude in a red suit got his mitts on that adorable fawn...oh but wait...that wolfy looking blue eyed Samurai dog husky wolf creature might save the day
don't mind me
I had a root canal done today and I only have OTC pain dealers. good thing I am high tolerance.
at least the tooth is save able...will be there for the Christmas meal with the neighbors
Your tooth that is.
I think the little faun out numbered by two carnivores should hope they don't tell red hat dude what they want for Christmas.
Venison! It's what's for dinner.
Run Bambi, run!
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7seasrekeyed
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you liked post 151 eh?
thought it was a gem myself
ok ok I'll stop talking about myself now....sigh...
there are 2 carnivores?
wait...
not Santa...and he has all those other deer too
thought it was a gem myself
ok ok I'll stop talking about myself now....sigh...
there are 2 carnivores?
wait...
not Santa...and he has all those other deer too
You do know Excedrin has caffeine? Great painkiller if you're not planning to sleep in the next few hours.I would like to imbibe.
right now.
might work better than the Excedrin
Do you have Aleve? Or Tylenol? They're OTC anti-inflammatory medications that may help.
I had a root canal once. I'm so glad I can't remember the pain after that procedure. You are in my prayers.
There's a brown baby bear cradled in red hat dude's right arm. See him?you liked post 151 eh?
thought it was a gem myself
ok ok I'll stop talking about myself now....sigh...
there are 2 carnivores?
wait...
not Santa...and he has all those other deer too
The expression on that baby's face. So many meme's he has out there and he's still so cute. Just his expression cracks me up.
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7seasrekeyed
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There's a brown baby bear cradled in red hat dude's right arm. See him?
The expression on that baby's face. So many meme's he has out there and he's still so cute. Just his expression cracks me up.
yeah
he's gonna want compensation when he's older...
I did see teddy...but I thought he was stuffed...not with deer
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7seasrekeyed
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You do know Excedrin has caffeine? Great painkiller if you're not planning to sleep in the next few hours.
Do you have Aleve? Or Tylenol? They're OTC anti-inflammatory medications that may help.
I had a root canal once. I'm so glad I can't remember the pain after that procedure. You are in my prayers.
thank you
that is the nicest thing anyone said to me today
yes...that is why I like it...I want to feel better...NOW!!!!
that is what I get for crunching hard candy most of my life