Did Jesus ever tell us that we no longer need to keep the law of Moses?

[NayborBear]

Go away

I am sick of your lies. Your false insinuations. And your childish behavior.

You have proven you have NO DESIRE to sit and listen to understand what others believe. So go away. Put me on ignore. Whatever you need to do

I wash my hands of you. And will pray for you

The "truth" hurts!
Don't it?

 

[gb9]

Gee! Am wondering who you get your orders from, eh?

Colossians 2
14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

Funny ain't it? Paul didn't seem to mind concerning the keeping of, or not keeping of (a) sabbath.

Bothers YOU, and others like you though. Don't it!

I am judging no one, if anyone chooses to keep the twilight fri. through twilight sat. Shabbat , then that is fine.

but, when you and the other judeaizers come at us gentile Christ followers and tell us we are not serving God correctly if we are not keeping the Sabbath., which as gentiles we were never commanded to do.

that is you judging us.

 

[NayborBear]

I am judging no one, if anyone chooses to keep the twilight fri. through twilight sat. Shabbat , then that is fine.

but, when you and the other judeaizers come at us gentile Christ followers and tell us we are not serving God correctly if we are not keeping the Sabbath., which as gentiles we were never commanded to do.

that is you judging us.

I guess ya just turn a blind eye to the arrogant pride that comes along with the mocking, scoffing, and name calling then, eh?

Is not really judging. Tis the adversary that comes through you in your postings, that I am pointing out.

The fact it cuts "pretty close to the bone", for you to be taking it "personally emotional?"

Should tell ya how much you love the Lord your god.

 

[gb9]

I guess ya just turn a blind eye to the arrogant pride that comes along with the mocking, scoffing, and name calling then, eh?

Is not really judging. Tis the adversary that comes through you in your postings, that I am pointing out.

The fact it cuts "pretty close to the bone", for you to be taking it "personally emotional?"

Should tell ya how much you love the Lord your god.

did you really just chastise me for mocking, scoffing, etc.

project much??

alright, how about some Bible discussion .
since you never answered this, i'll give you another go.

in Leviticus 26, God spoke of " the Covenant He made with the fathers of those who came out of Egypt"

so, since that ( singular) Covenant contains the Law, the Sabbath, the feasts and festivals dietary laws, etc, then that Covenant is binding on those and only those who God the Father ( truth of Trinity) specifically said that it was made with.

in other words, if one cannot trace their ancestry back to those who crossed the red sea, then that Covenant was NOT for you.
and , of course, nine of the Ten were repeated in the N.T., with Sabbath being not commanded.

 

[Noose]

did you really just chastise me for mocking, scoffing, etc.

project much??

alright, how about some Bible discussion .
since you never answered this, i'll give you another go.

in Leviticus 26, God spoke of " the Covenant He made with the fathers of those who came out of Egypt"

so, since that ( singular) Covenant contains the Law, the Sabbath, the feasts and festivals dietary laws, etc, then that Covenant is binding on those and only those who God the Father ( truth of Trinity) specifically said that it was made with.

in other words, if one cannot trace their ancestry back to those who crossed the red sea, then that Covenant was NOT for you.
and , of course, nine of the Ten were repeated in the N.T., with Sabbath being not commanded.

Are we supposed to keep the nine and not the sabbath?

 

[gb9]

Are we supposed to keep the nine and not the sabbath?

yep.

nine of then were repeated in the N.T.
a Command to keep the Sabbath was not.

gentiles were and are not under the Law, as I just explained.

it is very simple.

 

[NayborBear]

did you really just chastise me for mocking, scoffing, etc.

project much??

alright, how about some Bible discussion .
since you never answered this, i'll give you another go.

in Leviticus 26, God spoke of " the Covenant He made with the fathers of those who came out of Egypt"

so, since that ( singular) Covenant contains the Law, the Sabbath, the feasts and festivals dietary laws, etc, then that Covenant is binding on those and only those who God the Father ( truth of Trinity) specifically said that it was made with.

in other words, if one cannot trace their ancestry back to those who crossed the red sea, then that Covenant was NOT for you.
and , of course, nine of the Ten were repeated in the N.T., with Sabbath being not commanded.

I dunno if you realize just how utterly rediculous, your "proof of lineage" sounds to me?

I mean, no disrespect to you, for it seems certain, it means very much to you.

Am wondering however, how much it matters to God? Or Jesus, for that matter? Or, the Order of Melchizedek?

Inasmuch as "moving beyond" the principles of the doctrines of Christ, towards spiritual maturity?

One cannot help in "exploring" the Mosaic laws, in the hopes as well as the spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God by Jesus Christ, when seeking how to love the Lord my God, with all my heart, and all my soul, and all my mind with all my strength. Especially, when one is "led" there, by the Spirit of God.
One might even consider it the "earnestly coveting" of spiritual gifts. Where to look? Why "back to the future", of course!
In the "spiritual" sense, that is.

Genealogies be damned.

And, lol, yes.
I was chastising you.

 

[Noose]

yep.

nine of then were repeated in the N.T.
a Command to keep the Sabbath was not.

gentiles were and are not under the Law, as I just explained.

it is very simple.

So, if you keep keep 9 out of 10, are you not under the law? i mean, you are still keeping the law? we all are.

 

[gb9]

I dunno if you realize just how utterly rediculous, your "proof of lineage" sounds to me?

I mean, no disrespect to you, for it seems certain, it means very much to you.

Am wondering however, how much it matters to God? Or Jesus, for that matter? Or, the Order of Melchizedek?

Inasmuch as "moving beyond" the principles of the doctrines of Christ, towards spiritual maturity?

One cannot help in "exploring" the Mosaic laws, in the hopes as well as the spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God by Jesus Christ, when seeking how to love the Lord my God, with all my heart, and all my soul, and all my mind with all my strength. Especially, when one is "led" there, by the Spirit of God.
One might even consider it the "earnestly coveting" of spiritual gifts. Where to look? Why "back to the future", of course!
In the "spiritual" sense, that is.

Genealogies be damned.

And, lol, yes.
I was chastising you.

so, in other words, you only believe Scripture when it is relevant to your personal theology, otherwise, you don't care.

all right . at least you are honest.

 

[gb9]

So, if you keep keep 9 out of 10, are you not under the law? i mean, you are still keeping the law? we all are.

no, the Law, as I have told you guys many, many times is contained in the COVENANT that God made with Israel through Moses at Sinai.

there is one Covenant, one Law that.

the Law is NOT In parts.

so, yes keeping nine of the Ten does not put anyone " under the Law"

you do understand how covenants work, don't you??

 

[Noose]

no, the Law, as I have told you guys many, many times is contained in the COVENANT that God made with Israel through Moses at Sinai.

there is one Covenant, one Law that.

the Law is NOT In parts.

so, yes keeping nine of the Ten does not put anyone " under the Law"

you do understand how covenants work, don't you??

I do understand how covenants work but i don't understand how keeping 9 commandments out of 10 puts one under grace and keeping 10/10 puts one under the law.

It is very simple. Every time Jesus was asked what a man must do to inherit the kingdom of God, the answer was the same.The answer Jesus gave is very different from the one you are giving.

 

[gb9]

I do understand how covenants work but i don't understand how keeping 9 commandments out of 10 puts one under grace and keeping 10/10 puts one under the law.

It is very simple. Every time Jesus was asked what a man must do to inherit the kingdom of God, the answer was the same.The answer Jesus gave is very different from the one you are giving.

and who was asking Jesus these questions?

jewish men, born under the Law.

 

[Marcelo]

We all keep the law, ..... Being faithful to ones husband or wife is precisely keeping the law of Moses....

I agree with what you say above. If we believe that Jesus is the Messiah; that He died on the cross to ransom our souls; if we don't commit adultery nor fornication; if we don't steal, etc, we don't need to follow all the teachings of Moses, because we'll be saved by grace through faith.

 

[Noose]

and who was asking Jesus these questions?

jewish men, born under the Law.

In Christ, there's no Jew or gentile.

And who is a real Jew?

Rom 2:28A man is not a Jew because he is one outwardly, nor is circumcision only outward and physical. 29No, a man is a Jew because he is one inwardly, and circumcision is a matter of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the written code. Such a man’s praise does not come from men, but from God.

So it doesn't matter, the answer that Jesus gave is the same for both Jews and gentiles.

 

[gb9]

In Christ, there's no Jew or gentile.

And who is a real Jew?

Rom 2:28A man is not a Jew because he is one outwardly, nor is circumcision only outward and physical. 29No, a man is a Jew because he is one inwardly, and circumcision is a matter of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the written code. Such a man’s praise does not come from men, but from God.

So it doesn't matter, the answer that Jesus gave is the same for both Jews and gentiles.

no, as usual, you judeaizers invert everything ( same things luciferians do, think about that).

Paul said this in reference with gentiles being accepted by jewish Christ followers, jews considered themselves " God's choosen people ".

now, do you have anything on Leviticus 26??

 

[Noose]

I agree with what you say above. If we believe that Jesus is the Messiah; that He died on the cross to ransom our souls; if we don't commit adultery nor fornication; if we don't steal, etc, we don't need to follow all the teachings of Moses, because we'll be saved by grace through faith.

I don't believe you.

All you are trying to list here is the teachings of Moses

And believing in Christ doesn't mean 'our thoughts about Jesus and what He did on the cross'. I'll prove it to you.
If having thoughts about Jesus and what He dd on the cross is the only way a man is saved what about a one year old? They know nothing about Jesus yet they are saved. I want to be saved like a one year old, is there another way other than what you are proposing here?

 

[Noose]

no, as usual, you judeaizers invert everything ( same things luciferians do, think about that).

Paul said this in reference with gentiles being accepted by jewish Christ followers, jews considered themselves " God's choosen people ".

now, do you have anything on Leviticus 26??

No, there's no evidence of what you are saying. If there is, please show.

It is funny because in Revelation, God refers to the Church as Jews:

Rev 2:
8To the angel of the church in Smyrna write:
.....
9I know your affliction and your poverty—though you are rich! And I am aware of the slander of those who falsely claim to be Jews, but are in fact a synagogue of Satan.

Rev 3:
7To the angel of the church in Philadelphia write:
.....
8I know your deeds. See, I have placed before you an open door, which no one can shut. For you have only a little strength, yet you have kept My word and have not denied My name. 9Look at those who belong to the synagogue of Satan, who claim to be Jews but are liars instead.


It is clear here that a Jew is the one who keeps God's word just like what Paul said in Rom 2:28

 

[gb9]

so, nothing on Leviticus 26. as usual.

gb9n out.

 

[Noose]

so, nothing on Leviticus 26. as usual.

gb9n out.

What about Lev 26? What's so special about it?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

so, nothing on Leviticus 26. as usual.

gb9n out.

Time to give up asking them hard questions. They never respond. It just starts their silly attacks.