i cant find any creeds in history of church who say there is more than one phase to second coming or anything
its always simple like Jesus will return to judge quick and dead (quote from bible not man made doctrine) and thats what always was believed. even in websites you look up commentary before 1800 and never is it two returns. easy. who can believe all those great men of God were wrong, but today they got it right after this time? i dont believe it. its crazy we cant even agree on the basic fundamentals of faith anymore like Jesus is returning once......
ive looked at bible not there, ive looked at creeds not there, ive looked at commentaries (before 1800s-1900s) not there. lets let it go already. but people can believe what they want its not a salvation problem
its always simple like Jesus will return to judge quick and dead (quote from bible not man made doctrine) and thats what always was believed. even in websites you look up commentary before 1800 and never is it two returns. easy. who can believe all those great men of God were wrong, but today they got it right after this time? i dont believe it. its crazy we cant even agree on the basic fundamentals of faith anymore like Jesus is returning once......
ive looked at bible not there, ive looked at creeds not there, ive looked at commentaries (before 1800s-1900s) not there. lets let it go already. but people can believe what they want its not a salvation problem
1) you dont know what is not there ...nobody does
2) it is there,and the "nobody believed it" has been debunked.
3) the catholics burned heretics (believing like me) and their writings.
4) those same dead men you center on also believed Jesus could come at any time. Emminancy.(imminent?)
5) you need those same church fathers to basically be infallable..... Just the opposite, they couldnt get many things straight
6) israel was scattered and sacked in ad 70,so they looked through that flawed prism of the non existent nation of Israel.
So all that is what postribs thumb their nose at and actually center on a farce.
Actually center and park there.
IOW the lowest possible position.
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