Not By Works

[RebuildJesussChurch]

A sinless wonder ^^^^^
Here’s a reality check: you are a sinner. It doesn’t mean you’re evil or bad, but rather it means that you are not perfect and you will never be perfect on this side of heaven.

....and perhaps you should respond to what I said instead of making a pithy response designed to get the herd to gang up again. What I said was,

"It is written, “Whoever believes in Him is born of God.” “No one who is born of God sins.” So who is really believing in Him? He also said anyone who believed in Him would do what He was doing, referring to His miracles.

Very little of what is called faith and believing really is what the label says. There’s a lot of mental ascent and wishful thinking but not as many lives radically changed. Lots of “church” members but few disciples.

These signs will follow them who believe. The world needs to see some blind eyes opened. He confirms His Word by the signs that accompany it. Let us return to the Lord. "

If you would like to respond to my point, go ahead.

 

[VCO]

It is written, “Whoever believes in Him is born of God.” “No one who is born of God sins.” So who is really believing in Him? He also said anyone who believed in Him would do what He was doing, referring to His miracles.

Very little of what is called faith and believing really is what the label says. There’s a lot of mental ascent and wishful thinking but not as many lives radically changed. Lots of “church” members but few disciples.

These signs will follow them who believe. The world needs to see some blind eyes opened. He confirms His Word by the signs that accompany it. Let us return to the Lord.

If you do not think you Think you are SINLESS, I Have NEWS FOR YOU. YOU ARE AS SINNER LIKE THE REST OF US.

Ecclesiastes 7:20 (NKJV)
20 For there is not a just man on earth who does good And does not sin.

Romans 3:20 (NKJV)
20 Therefore by the deeds of the law no flesh will be justified in His sight, for by the law is the knowledge of sin.


The purpose of the LAW has never been a system to be right with GOD, it has always been to make us Knowledgeable of what all GOD CONSIDERS SIN, to make want and seek a MESSIAH.

1 Peter 2:13-17 (NKJV)
13 Therefore submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake, whether to the king as supreme,
14 or to governors, as to those who are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers and for the praise of those who do good.
15 For this is the will of God, that by doing good you may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men--
16 as free, yet not using liberty as a cloak for vice, but as bondservants of God.
17 Honor all people. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honor the king. 🖜 That is President Donald Trump, if you are an American.


One mile over the Posted Speed Limit, even accidentally, YOU ARE SINNING.


Illegally Parked, for any reason, YOU ARE SINNING.

Failure to Leash Your Dog, And Failure to pick up it's poop, YOU ARE SINNING.

Now, you think of how many ORDINANCES OF MAN, you have ignored, and still think you do not sin.

Yes I strive to not violate those simple ordinances of man, as well as GOD's Other Commands, it is my lifestyle,
But I will never imply that I am sinless.

 

[CherieR]

sure.

1 Corinthians 5 New King James Version (NKJV)
5 It is actually reported that there is sexual immorality among you, and such sexual immorality as is not even named among the Gentiles—that a man has his father’s wife! 2 And you are puffed up, and have not rather mourned, that he who has done this deed might be taken away from among you. 3 For I indeed, as absent in body but present in spirit, have already judged (as though I were present) him who has so done this deed. 4 In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when you are gathered together, along with my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ, 5 deliver such a one to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

To me it sounds like the person Paul is talking about might not be a Christian. If he is a Christian, then his spirit would already be saved. Still I'm not entirely sure either way.

 

[RebuildJesussChurch]

If you do not think you Think you are SINLESS, I Have NEWS FOR YOU. YOU ARE AS SINNER LIKE THE REST OF US.

Ecclesiastes 7:20 (NKJV)
20 For there is not a just man on earth who does good And does not sin.

Romans 3:20 (NKJV)
20 Therefore by the deeds of the law no flesh will be justified in His sight, for by the law is the knowledge of sin.


The purpose of the LAW has never been a system to be right with GOD, it has always been to make us Knowledgeable of what all GOD CONSIDERS SIN, to make want and seek a MESSIAH.

1 Peter 2:13-17 (NKJV)
13 Therefore submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake, whether to the king as supreme,
14 or to governors, as to those who are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers and for the praise of those who do good.
15 For this is the will of God, that by doing good you may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men--
16 as free, yet not using liberty as a cloak for vice, but as bondservants of God.
17 Honor all people. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honor the king. 🖜 That is President Donald Trump, if you are an American.

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One mile over the Posted Speed Limit, even accidentally, YOU ARE SINNING.

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Illegally Parked, for any reason, YOU ARE SINNING.

Failure to Leash Your Dog, And Failure to pick up it's poop, YOU ARE SINNING.

Now, you think of how many ORDINANCES OF MAN, you have ignored, and still think you do not sin.

Yes I strive to not violate those simple ordinances of man, as well as GOD's Other Commands, it is my lifestyle,
But I will never imply that I am sinless.

Look at the post and the Word of God. Lift your eyes up.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Believers warned : -
Heb 10:23-27 KJV Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; (for he is faithful that promised (24) And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works: (25) Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.

(26) For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, (27) But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.

The same Good Shepherd will wreak judgment.

And as usual you left out the verse where paul says we are not of that group, we have believed to the saving of the soul.

that passage has been refuted

try another one.

 

[Hevosmies]

And as usual you left out the verse where paul says we are not of that group, we have believed to the saving of the soul.

that passage has been refuted

try another one.

Hebrews 10:39 But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition; but of them that believe to the saving of the soul.

OOPS! Maybe he forgot about that one?

 

[Lightskin]

Here's a reality check: the Word of God. How did the Lord respond to Satan? It is written, it is written, it is written. Let it be your reality. It will then be your reality. He called them gods to whom the Word of God came and the Scripture cannot be broken. <gasp>

So now you’re a god? Good to know. Remember this, driving 26 mph in a 25 mph zone makes you a sinner. Now get to walking.

 

[Chris1975]

What a lot of content to respond to being away for 8 hours.... will get to some of the comments addressed.

In the meantime, some scripture....

Luke 6
46 “But why do you call Me ‘Lord, Lord,’ and not do the things which I say? 47 Whoever comes to Me, and hears My sayings and does them, I will show you whom he is like: 48 He is like a man building a house, who dug deep and laid the foundation on the rock. And when the flood arose, the stream beat vehemently against that house, and could not shake it, for it was [j]founded on the rock. 49 But he who heard and did nothing is like a man who built a house on the earth without a foundation, against which the stream beat vehemently; and immediately it [k]fell. And the ruin of that house was great.”

>Only a Christian calls Him Lord
>They can choose to do what He says or not do what He says.
>It goes well for those who choose to do what He says.
>It is ruinous for those who don't.

 

[Lightskin]

Believers warned : -
Heb 10:23-27 KJV Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; (for he is faithful that promised (24) And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works: (25) Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.

(26) For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, (27) But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.

The same Good Shepherd will wreak judgment.

John 5:24 says otherwise. 😎

 

[eternally-gratefull]

What a lot of content to respond to being away for 8 hours.... will get to some of the comments addressed.

In the meantime, some scripture....

Luke 6
46 “But why do you call Me ‘Lord, Lord,’ and not do the things which I say? 47 Whoever comes to Me, and hears My sayings and does them, I will show you whom he is like: 48 He is like a man building a house, who dug deep and laid the foundation on the rock. And when the flood arose, the stream beat vehemently against that house, and could not shake it, for it was [j]founded on the rock. 49 But he who heard and did nothing is like a man who built a house on the earth without a foundation, against which the stream beat vehemently; and immediately it [k]fell. And the ruin of that house was great.”

>Only a Christian calls Him Lord
>They can choose to do what He says or not do what He says.
>It goes well for those who choose to do what He says.
>It is ruinous for those who don't.

I think it is clear, those who never do what he said never had faith in him to begin with

it would be a mistake to think they were saved in the first place.

 

[RebuildJesussChurch]

So now you’re a god? Good to know. Remember this, driving 26 mph in a 25 mph zone makes you a sinner. Now get to walking.

Still not dealing with what I posted...

 

[Hevosmies]

So now you’re a god? Good to know. Remember this, driving 26 mph in a 25 mph zone makes you a sinner. Now get to walking.

These losers trapped in these hyper-charismatic prideful worldly cults dont mind quoting that scripture. They love to be called gods, some of those wingnuts even claim to be controlling the weather! These bums are nowhere in sight when a hurricane is coming through.

This aint that surprising, considering they got God on their fingertips allegedly, an incompetent deity who needs their help!

 

[Lightskin]

....and perhaps you should respond to what I said instead of making a pithy response designed to get the herd to gang up again. What I said was,

"It is written, “Whoever believes in Him is born of God.” “

It is also written that anyone who says they are without sin is calling God a liar. You can’t have it both ways. 26 in a 25 = sinner.

 

[Lightskin]

These losers trapped in these hyper-charismatic prideful worldly cults dont mind quoting that scripture. They love to be called gods, some of those wingnuts even claim to be controlling the weather! These bums are nowhere in sight when a hurricane is coming through.

This aint that surprising, considering they got God on their fingertips allegedly, an incompetent deity who needs their help!

Perfectly stated. They reek of pride yet are too blind to realize it.

It’s no wonder the first commandment is in fact the first commandment.

 

[Lightskin]

Still not dealing with what I posted...

Are you a god? 🤔

 

[Chris1975]

I think it is clear, those who never do what he said never had faith in him to begin with

it would be a mistake to think they were saved in the first place.

A-HA, so the distinguishing characteristic is this: Those who have faith have obedience to His Word.

You have just admitted to it.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

A-HA, so the distinguishing characteristic is this: Those who have faith have obedience to His Word.

You have just admitted to it.

I never denied it

however, you have to admit,

There are babes in christ

and mature adults in christ

the amount of obedience will reflect as such,

younalso have to account for prodigal children, who may not even look like christians at the time.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

A-HA, so the distinguishing characteristic is this: Those who have faith have obedience to His Word.

You have just admitted to it.

have you had a chance to look at my verses to explain

 

[Hevosmies]

A-HA, so the distinguishing characteristic is this: Those who have faith have obedience to His Word.

You have just admitted to it.

No one ever denied this. The only debate among sane Christians is about, WHO GETS THE GLORY:

I maintain my salvation by my works <- Man centered, man gets part of the glory

God keeps me through the power of faith <- God centered, God gets all the glory, Soli deo Gloria.

If you disagree with the part in bold, you are on the WRONG SIDE of the Reformation! Taking the side of Rome!

 

[RebuildJesussChurch]

It is also written that anyone who says they are without sin is calling God a liar. You can’t have it both ways. 26 in a 25 = sinner.

So you responded to chris1975's post of:
"I suspect if the apostles Peter and James were commenting on this forum, you would accuse them of being works salvationists. For it is their scriptures you kick against."

With:

"I suspect you would do the same to Jesus regarding His proclamation that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life."

To which I responded:

"It is written, “Whoever believes in Him is born of God.” “No one who is born of God sins.” So who is really believing in Him? He also said anyone who believed in Him would do what He was doing, referring to His miracles.

Very little of what is called faith and believing really is what the label says. There’s a lot of mental ascent and wishful thinking but not as many lives radically changed. Lots of “church” members but few disciples.

These signs will follow them who believe. The world needs to see some blind eyes opened. He confirms His Word by the signs that accompany it. Let us return to the Lord."

Respond to the post.