John 3:16-18 is not about God's universal love (there is no such thing).

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Blade

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Don't you ever wonder "who" all those stars are that God told Abraham if he could count them? Christ is real. He came to His own 1st. Then He went to the world. And He is out there right now showing, telling, setting free, deaf hear, blind see, lame walk, dead rise. To those that never heard. Have dreams about Christ. He goes to every one of them. Everyone of them gets a choice. For all is all and thats all all means. All have sinned and fallen short. None are righteous not one. He stands at that door. You open it or you don't.

Know that at any point in your life you wish to simply ASK HIM about this you can. It also is a choice. To wait on Him and hear. To believe or not. For with out faith we will never please Him. He is VERY REAL! Its HIS truth not mans.
 

Butterflyyy

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then why am i here to preach the Gospel when the elect will ultimately believe no matter what..what is my purpose in life...? What kind of thinking is this...where is this coming from? God's heart is at question here...God's heart. do you see it..?
This is not a true representation of God's heart-take no notice of these people... you see it, and I thank God for that.... He needs us on this earth, Amorette, despite the lies which come into our minds... He has a purpose for you and for me... X
 

posthuman

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Your choice of getting on the bus, set your destination. You’re coming around.😀

i wasn't even at a bus stop or looking for a ride, but i guess i stepped on in
what i'm trying to figure out is how was it my name was already written in the passenger manifest before it left the depot
 

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i wasn't even at a bus stop or looking for a ride, but i guess i stepped on in
what i'm trying to figure out is how was it my name was already written in the passenger manifest before it left the depot
chosen according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through the sanctifying
work of the Spirit, to be obedient to Jesus Christ and sprinkled with his blood:

Grace and peace be yours in abundance.
From 1 Peter 1:2
 

calibob

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i wasn't even at a bus stop or looking for a ride, but i guess i stepped on in
what i'm trying to figure out is how was it my name was already written in the passenger manifest before it left the depot
Because God knew the ending from the beginning. That dosn't exempt us from doing our part.
 
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Division politics. God forbid Jesus is anything other than the OP’s vision and proclamation.
There’s a interesting account that happened in Gethsemane before the Crucifixion, Judas Iscariot had to indicate to the soldiers whom Jesus was because they could not tell him apart from his disciples, by looks or clothing.
 

calibob

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There’s a interesting account that happened in Gethsemane before the Crucifixion, Judas Iscariot had to indicate to the soldiers whom Jesus was because they could not tell him apart from his disciples, by looks or clothing.
So the two faced traitor kissed him. BTW; Nazarites had long hair.
 
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So the two faced traitor kissed him. BTW; Nazarites had long hair.
Probably many different styles of hair like today, i wouldn't think John the Baptist was well groomed wild man of the woods
 

calibob

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Famous Nazarites in the Bible
In the Bible, we can see some Nazarites in the Old Testament like Samson and Samuel and in the New Testament John the Baptist and Jesus Christ.
 

calibob

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Famous Nazarites in the Bible
In the Bible, we can see some Nazarites in the Old Testament like Samson and Samuel and in the New Testament John the Baptist and Jesus Christ.
They were non Levitical Rabbis.
 
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I’ve read There’s a difference in being a Nazarene and being a Nazarite, and there’s that verse though the book has been lost to time, and he shall be called a Nazarene
 

Lightskin

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Well maybe they would prefer a more Galilean lookin Jesus, by using forensic anthropology this was made back in 02,

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Jesus’ physical traits and appearance doesn’t mean a thing to me. I just get a kick out of people who push p/c politics into something so unimportant and trivial.
 

Nehemiah6

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I’ve read There’s a difference in being a Nazarene and being a Nazarite, and there’s that verse though the book has been lost to time, and he shall be called a Nazarene
Nazarene = from Nazareth

Nazarite = one who took a Nazarite vow (which does not apply to Christ)
 
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Jesus’ physical traits and appearance doesn’t mean a thing to me. I just get a kick out of people who push p/c politics into something so unimportant and trivial.
some appearances was a requirement if one was a nazarite, long hair, avoiding corpses graves even family members graves, completely avoiding alcohol made from grapes aka wine and a list of other things, so from knowing the numbers account about being a nazarite I think Jesus was a Nazarene not bound by those laws of a nazarite.
 
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Actually we’d be lying to those non-elect if we told them that Christ died for them. How does the elect know who to witness to without lying? Crazy stuff that calvinism.
We tell them about who Jesus was, what he did, and why they need him.

Because in the blood of Christ is the forgiveness of sins.
 
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Nazarene = from Nazareth

Nazarite = one who took a Nazarite vow (which does not apply to Christ)
I agree knowing the difference, I probably would assume Lazarus might not have been risen, and probably other things.
 
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i've never heard that before -- what did Jacob repent of in Genesis 32?
When the Lord asked him his name Jacob told the Lord his given name heel catcher better yet trickster. Admitting he was rightly named so. As you know the Lord changed it to Israel.
This short story of Jacob shows that victory only came to Jacob when he was defeated. As a reminder of that the Lord touched his hip and he became lame.
I believe in Zachariah he gives a commentary about this event...been so long might be wrong.