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Pisteuo

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When Jesus has your all, there is no going back.[/QUOTE

I agree!

When the salvation journey or process is being fulfilled correctly and as the result recieve the Spirit of Christ, it's harder to get out of His will than it is to stay in it!
 

BillG

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One more thing Bill.

The verbs believe, believer, and believing are corresponding verbs to the noun "Belief", not the noun" Faith".
Spent 10 years at school being taught concerning verbs/nouns/abjectives and so on. How they relate concerning the subjective etc.

Never got it then (hence failure in my English exam)

I now go along with "Jesus just wanna be like you. Nothing less"

Simple really, or is it?
 
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Pisteuo

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Brother... You understand the simplicity that is in Christ.

Humility holds more weight than any long winded dispute over semantics regarding a language from a time we did not live in. The Holy spirit will teach all of His how He sees fit.

We know His voice and we follow Him. (He wouldn't let one of His sheep go too far if they were to wander)

I hope you have a lovely new year.😁
His burden is light, His yoke us easy.

But it's still a yoke, and it's still a burden!
 

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When Jesus has your 'ALL' there is nowhere to go back to.
 
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Pisteuo

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Spent 10 years at school being taught concerning verbs/nouns/abjectives and so on. How they relate concerning the subjective etc.

Never got it then (hence failure in my English exam)

I now go along with "Jesus just wanna be like you. Nothing less"

Simple really, or is it?
We can only be like Him if we are in Him, and He is in us.

We can only be in Him by a Continually surrendered life.

Simple!
 
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Pisteuo

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So is the following correct concerning a noun?

a word that refers to a person, place, thing, event, substance, or quality:

If so how so concerning faith?
A noun is a person, place , or thing. Faith or Pistis.
A verb is an act, based upon a Belief, sustained by confidence, pisteuo.

So the noun is the object of our faithing.

Every human ever born fulfills hundreds of acts of Faith each and every day. Most have nothing to do with God.
 

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A noun is a person, place , or thing. Faith or Pistis.
A verb is an act, based upon a Belief, sustained by confidence, pisteuo.

So the noun is the object of our faithing.

Every human ever born fulfills hundreds of acts of Faith each and every day. Most have nothing to do with God.
So it is a verb.
 
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Pisteuo

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So it is a verb.
Pistis is a noun used 245 times in the NT. ( Our English word Faith)

Pisteuo is the corresponding verb to the noun Pistis. ( No corresponding verb to the noun Faith in the English language)
 
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Pisteuo

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What burdens in the name of Jesus have you experienced thus far today?
Hey lightskinned brother how your Faith?

The answer to that question falls under the " personal relationship" with Christ that is just between Him and I.

Ask a better question!
 

BillG

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Just go by what the Bible itself defines 'faith' as being. That's what I do.

"1Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. " Hebrews 11:1 KJV

Faith is the knowledge that something you can't see is true. That 'alone' never saved anybody, and never will. You have to trust in what faith shows you to be true in order to be saved. The confusion comes in because we call that 'having faith'.
Does the above verse define faith or description of faith, the substance of faith.

Hebrews 11:1

By Faith We Understand
1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
 

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Pistis is a noun used 245 times in the NT. ( Our English word Faith)

Pisteuo is the corresponding verb to the noun Pistis. ( No corresponding verb to the noun Faith in the English language)
A verb is a 'doing' word, so if we exercise faith we are doing something.
 
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Pisteuo

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Does the above verse define faith or description of faith, the substance of faith.

Hebrews 11:1

By Faith We Understand
1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
The " object" of any act of faithing ( pisteuo ) must be " unseen ".

If and when it becomes seen, it's not an act of Faith or faithing anymore but a fact!
 
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Pisteuo

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A verb is a 'doing' word, so if we exercise faith we are doing something.
Yes, but as it specifically relates to the living God, only one act of Faith or faithing that if done continually will result in recieving the Spirit of Christ.
Vines: " a personal surrender to Him and a life inspired by such surrender."

The a,b,C's of Faith! An act, based upon a Belief, sustained by confidence.
 

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Pistis is a noun used 245 times in the NT. ( Our English word Faith)

Pisteuo is the corresponding verb to the noun Pistis. ( No corresponding verb to the noun Faith in the English language)
I thought it was 243
 

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Yes, but as it specifically relates to the living God, only one act of Faith or faithing that if done continually will result in recieving the Spirit of Christ.
Vines: " a personal surrender to Him and a life inspired by such surrender."

The a,b,C's of Faith! An act, based upon a Belief, sustained by confidence.
You just said people commit acts of faith all day. These acts of faith have nothing to do with God.
 
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Pisteuo

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Does the above verse define faith or description of faith, the substance of faith.

Hebrews 11:1

By Faith We Understand
1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
It's been a while since I've been here bill. But there's something different about you, and it may mean nothing to you, but I've noticed!