Not By Works

[Rosemaryx]

Now tell me who God does not forgive.

Romans 8:1
8 There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are IN Christ Jesus.

Many are in hell , many this day are under the wrath of God , many this day will die having heard of the name of Jesus but denied Him , those are they that are not forgiving...

 

[JohnW34]

We can do all that and still fall by the wayside.

Are people so ignorant of scripture, or do they simply deny the scriptures their cult does not like?

Seeing Gods work in earthen vessels is a gift of patience and takes time to unpack what is actually going on.
Forums like this are not good for that with only a few sentences passing between us. God bless you.

 

[PS]

I used to get into trouble on the forums for saying that if Hitler truly believed in God, the same as OSAS claim for themselves, then they would be sitting round the banqueting table with the Once Saved Always Saved Hitler.

People used to say, "no, that is impossible."

Either way, whether Hitler will be invited to the wedding feast or not, there is a flaw in your belief system, for not everyone will enter the Kingdom of Heaven, whether OSAS or not.

 

[mailmandan]

But, as far as the "teacher" I was led to in "getting to 1 John 2:27?"

Yikes!!! - http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/arnoldmurray.html

 

[PS]

Romans 8:1
8 There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are IN Christ Jesus.

Many are in hell , many this day are under the wrath of God , many this day will die having heard of the name of Jesus but denied Him , those are they that are not forgiving...

Hitler believed in God and as far as I know, never denied Him.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

God forgives those who believe in Him and come to Him in repentance.

You still can not live up to his standard
he offers you the gift of redemption
you either say yes lord or no lord
it’s not a gift that can be earned

when will you say yes?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Now tell me who God does not forgive.

Those who do not believe

John. He who does not believe is condemned already

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I used to get into trouble on the forums for saying that if Hitler truly believed in God, the same as OSAS claim for themselves, then they would be sitting round the banqueting table with the Once Saved Always Saved Hitler.

People used to say, "no, that is impossible."

Either way, whether Hitler will be invited to the wedding feast or not, there is a flaw in your belief system, for not everyone will enter the Kingdom of Heaven, whether OSAS or not.

If hitler repented he is in heaven

Workers do not like this. That’s why they rejected Christ. He saved sinners.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Hitler believed in God and as far as I know, never denied Him.

Hitler never had faith in God
huge difference

Saul believed in God while he murdered Christians. He still had to be knocked to the ground to acknowledge his sin

 

[PS]

You still can not live up to his standard
he offers you the gift of redemption
you either say yes lord or no lord
it’s not a gift that can be earned

when will you say yes?

I said YES years ago, for crying out loud, but I am aware of the warnings, and so should you be instead of being in denial.

“For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, and have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, if they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame” (Hebrews 6:4-6).

And many more like it.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I said YES years ago, for crying out loud, but I am aware of the warnings, and so should you be instead of being in denial.

“For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, and have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, if they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame” (Hebrews 6:4-6).

And many more like it.

You God can not change you or keep his promise
my God made m a new creature and keeps his promises

The warnings you keep screaming about do not say what you think

either you have eternal life or you do not. There is no in between

 

[PS]

Hitler never had faith in God
huge difference
Saul believed in God while he murdered Christians. He still had to be knocked to the ground to acknowledge his sin

God forgives those who believe in Him and come to Him in repentance.

Those who were once saved because they believed, but do not repent of their sins are lost eternally.

Saul/Paul, repented. That is what saved Him. He had always believed in God, but that on its own was not sufficient.

.

 

[PS]

You God can not change you or keep his promise
my God made m a new creature and keeps his promises

The warnings you keep screaming about do not say what you think

either you have eternal life or you do not. There is no in between

Don't you act as my judge, instead accept the truth and the whole truth of the Bible. Those who don't well.......

 

[eternally-gratefull]

God forgives those who believe in Him and come to Him in repentance.

Those who were once saved because they believed, but do not repent of their sins are lost eternally.

Saul/Paul, repented. That is what saved Him. He had always believed in God, but that on its own was not sufficient.

.

Those who are saved have already repented

Kinda hard to repent when you already did

Those who are once saved have eternal life

That’s the power behind their new life and victory over sin

If you do knit KNOW your forgiven you are forced to perform. Hence you produce self righteousness void of true repentance instead of a child who loves his father and learns to trust him. Because he understand his Dad has his back because his dad loves him

I pray you find our Father one day

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Don't you act as my judge, instead accept the truth and the whole truth of the Bible. Those who don't well.......

You act as my judge so stop being a hypocrite
you accept your perverted truth of scripture not the truth
you mock God, his death and his eternal Gift

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Don't you act as my judge, ...

You just have to love when a member continually judges others with almost every post they make, then demand people not judge them

Hypocrisy at its finest. Do as I say not as I do

 

[mailmandan]

Famous Name, but bad theology.

After doing some research on David Wilkerson, I found this, which is disturbing.

http://www.jesusisprecious.org/false_doctrine/lordship_salvation/david_wilkerson.htm
http://www.endtime-prophets.com/wilkerson.html

 

[JohnW34]

You act as my judge so stop being a hypocrite
you accept your perverted truth of scripture not the truth
you mock God, his death and his eternal Gift

These statements are conclusions of an individual without the commentary or context.
The problem is as a neutral observer I do not know what is being proposed or how I can
come to a conclusion.

Other than expressing a rejection, it does not progress anything but just resembles a fight.
Is that what this forum is for, or to help educate and build each other up in the faith?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

These statements are conclusions of an individual without the commentary or context.
The problem is as a neutral observer I do not know what is being proposed or how I can
come to a conclusion.

Other than expressing a rejection, it does not progress anything but just resembles a fight.
Is that what this forum is for, or to help educate and build each other up in the faith?

I am still trying to figure out what your here for. Except to promote salvation by water baptism
but tell me. Ps judges me as loving sin. Which is a lie

Then demand I do not judge him when I call him out

Do you see anything wrong here?

 

[PS]

These statements are conclusions of an individual without the commentary or context.
The problem is as a neutral observer I do not know what is being proposed or how I can
come to a conclusion.

Other than expressing a rejection, it does not progress anything but just resembles a fight.
Is that what this forum is for, or to help educate and build each other up in the faith?

In summery I would simply like to say that we are saved eternally providing we keep looking to Jesus, the author and finisher of our faith, and we do not stray off the narrow path.