When Children Pass On

[Aerials1978]

Recently, a dear friend of mine daughters child passed away. He was only 5 months along in gestation. Very sad for the whole family. It made think of God and His mercy and love. I haven’t read much about where children go after death. I take solace in what David said with regards to his infant son who died after only one week:

But now that he is dead, why should I go on fasting? Can I bring him back again? I will go to him, but he will not return to me."
2 Samuel 12:23

I take this as God brings those little ones who are not mature enough to know what right and wrong is to Himself. What are your views on child death and salvation?

 

[Noose]

Matt 18:3“Truly I tell you,” He said, “unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.

 

[EternalFire]

Recently, a dear friend of mine daughters child passed away. He was only 5 months along in gestation. Very sad for the whole family. It made think of God and His mercy and love. I haven’t read much about where children go after death. I take solace in what David said with regards to his infant son who died after only one week:

But now that he is dead, why should I go on fasting? Can I bring him back again? I will go to him, but he will not return to me."
2 Samuel 12:23

I take this as God brings those little ones who are not mature enough to know what right and wrong is to Himself. What are your views on child death and salvation?

My condolences. Here's a passage to support that there is a period before one can choose the right and reject the wrong (Isa 7:15-16).

 

[Aerials1978]

Matt 18:3“Truly I tell you,” He said, “unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.

Absolutely. Jesus shows special affection for children.

 

[ForestGreenCook]

Recently, a dear friend of mine daughters child passed away. He was only 5 months along in gestation. Very sad for the whole family. It made think of God and His mercy and love. I haven’t read much about where children go after death. I take solace in what David said with regards to his infant son who died after only one week:

But now that he is dead, why should I go on fasting? Can I bring him back again? I will go to him, but he will not return to me."
2 Samuel 12:23

I take this as God brings those little ones who are not mature enough to know what right and wrong is to Himself. What are your views on child death and salvation?

I cannot put my finger on it, but there is a scripture indicating that the wicked live to be of old age. If you like, I will spent the time to search it out.

 

[Aerials1978]

I cannot put my finger on it, but there is a scripture indicating that the wicked live to be of old age. If you like, I will spent the time to search it out.

Absolutely. Very much appreciated.

 

[MessageOfTheCross]

Isaiah 57:1-2

“1 The righteous perish and no man lays it to heart: and merciful men are taken away, none considering that the righteous is taken away from the evil to come. (The word translated “perish” does not imply violence, but the context implies a premature death. The righteous disappear — are taken from the Earth before their natural time.

The Text is so structured that, in effect, the Holy Spirit is saying that inasmuch as these “righteous” were not appreciated, but rather hated for their Godly walk, and as such were a rebuke to ungodly but religious Israel, the Lord prematurely took them away in death.

“No man lays it to heart,” refers to the fact that no one asked what it means — no one is disturbed, no one grieves.

“And merciful men are taken away,” implies that “mercy” was found only in these few “righteous.” When these were taken, very little “mercy” was left in the religious heart of spiritually demented Israel!

“None considering that the righteous is taken away from the evil to come,” refers to the fact that God may permit the premature death of His servants as an escape from calamities worse than death [I Ki. 14:13; II Ki. 22:20].)

2 He shall enter into peace: they shall rest in their beds, each one walking in his uprightness. (The pronoun “he” refers to the “righteous man” of Verse 1, while the pronoun “they” refers to the same. “He shall enter into peace,” refers to “a state of peace.” “Walking in his uprightness,” has to do with walking according to the Word of God, and not according to public opinion, or the false paths of these religious hypocrites.)”

JSM

For I am in a strait betwixt two, having a desire to depart, and to be with Christ; which is far better: Philippians 1:23

 

[Aerials1978]

Isaiah 57:1-2

“1 The righteous perish and no man lays it to heart: and merciful men are taken away, none considering that the righteous is taken away from the evil to come. (The word translated “perish” does not imply violence, but the context implies a premature death. The righteous disappear — are taken from the Earth before their natural time.

The Text is so structured that, in effect, the Holy Spirit is saying that inasmuch as these “righteous” were not appreciated, but rather hated for their Godly walk, and as such were a rebuke to ungodly but religious Israel, the Lord prematurely took them away in death.

“No man lays it to heart,” refers to the fact that no one asked what it means — no one is disturbed, no one grieves.

“And merciful men are taken away,” implies that “mercy” was found only in these few “righteous.” When these were taken, very little “mercy” was left in the religious heart of spiritually demented Israel!

“None considering that the righteous is taken away from the evil to come,” refers to the fact that God may permit the premature death of His servants as an escape from calamities worse than death [I Ki. 14:13; II Ki. 22:20].)

2 He shall enter into peace: they shall rest in their beds, each one walking in his uprightness. (The pronoun “he” refers to the “righteous man” of Verse 1, while the pronoun “they” refers to the same. “He shall enter into peace,” refers to “a state of peace.” “Walking in his uprightness,” has to do with walking according to the Word of God, and not according to public opinion, or the false paths of these religious hypocrites.)”

JSM

For I am in a strait betwixt two, having a desire to depart, and to be with Christ; which is far better: Philippians 1:23

Very well put.

 

[MessageOfTheCross]

Recently, a dear friend of mine daughters child passed away. He was only 5 months along in gestation. Very sad for the whole family. It made think of God and His mercy and love. I haven’t read much about where children go after death. I take solace in what David said with regards to his infant son who died after only one week:

But now that he is dead, why should I go on fasting? Can I bring him back again? I will go to him, but he will not return to me."
2 Samuel 12:23

I take this as God brings those little ones who are not mature enough to know what right and wrong is to Himself. What are your views on child death and salvation?

Are the parents Born-again?

 

[JamOn]

Recently, a dear friend of mine daughters child passed away. He was only 5 months along in gestation. Very sad for the whole family. It made think of God and His mercy and love. I haven’t read much about where children go after death. I take solace in what David said with regards to his infant son who died after only one week:

But now that he is dead, why should I go on fasting? Can I bring him back again? I will go to him, but he will not return to me."
2 Samuel 12:23

I take this as God brings those little ones who are not mature enough to know what right and wrong is to Himself. What are your views on child death and salvation?

Well it seems your mixing the two a little, for one babies in the womb who die before being born really haven’t had a chance to choose, and David is referring to a week old child way different than 5 year old I’d lean more to equal to haven’t been born yet.

 

[Aerials1978]

Well it seems your mixing the two a little, for one babies in the womb who die before being born really haven’t had a chance to choose, and David is referring to a week old child way different than 5 year old I’d lean more to equal to haven’t been born yet.

From what we know of God’s nature(Or I should say what He has revealed to us) is that He judges with righteousness. A 5 year old is certainly sinful by their very nature. Do they truly know this as their minds are so immature? I don’t think so. Some others posted scripture that supports this concept.

If we have faith that God is good in all He does, one would assume that God doesn’t hold this little ones accountable as He would say a 40 year old man who does know right from wrong.

 

[Aerials1978]

Are the parents Born-again?

They are not. I’m sure they are very mad at God if they even believe in His existence.

 

[MessageOfTheCross]

“14 For the unbelieving husband is Sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is Sanctified by the husband (means that the Believer, by virtue of being one flesh with his or her unbelieving spouse, is not considered living in an unlawful relationship; “Sanctified” means that God looks at the home as a Christian home and marriage, even though one or the other partner is unsaved): else were your children unclean; but now are they holy (looked at by the Lord as being born in a Christian home, despite the fact that either the Mother or Dad is unsaved).” 1 Corinthians 7:14

JSM

Question? What if both parents are unsaved, will their children from a infant to nineteen years old go to hell if they die prematurely? What if the parents are not married and unsaved, will their children from a infant to nineteen years old go to hell if they die prematurely if they are not born again?

 

[Noose]

“14 For the unbelieving husband is Sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is Sanctified by the husband (means that the Believer, by virtue of being one flesh with his or her unbelieving spouse, is not considered living in an unlawful relationship; “Sanctified” means that God looks at the home as a Christian home and marriage, even though one or the other partner is unsaved): else were your children unclean; but now are they holy (looked at by the Lord as being born in a Christian home, despite the fact that either the Mother or Dad is unsaved).” 1 Corinthians 7:14

JSM

Question? What if both parents are unsaved, will their children from a infant to nineteen years old go to hell if they die prematurely? What if the parents are not married and unsaved, will their children from a infant to nineteen years old go to hell if they die prematurely if they are not born again?

Salvation is not about what one does but what Christ did, so children are saved anyway. A person can only walk out of the love of Christ and not into the love of Christ. A child abides in the love of Christ because they love and never hate.

Biblical marriage is just sex (becoming one flesh) and nothing more. A child is only obtained by way of marriage (sex) and no other means. Even if the parents commit adultery, the child is innocent, the charge will be against the parents and not the child.

 

[Aerials1978]

“14 For the unbelieving husband is Sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is Sanctified by the husband (means that the Believer, by virtue of being one flesh with his or her unbelieving spouse, is not considered living in an unlawful relationship; “Sanctified” means that God looks at the home as a Christian home and marriage, even though one or the other partner is unsaved): else were your children unclean; but now are they holy (looked at by the Lord as being born in a Christian home, despite the fact that either the Mother or Dad is unsaved).” 1 Corinthians 7:14

JSM

Question? What if both parents are unsaved, will their children from a infant to nineteen years old go to hell if they die prematurely? What if the parents are not married and unsaved, will their children from a infant to nineteen years old go to hell if they die prematurely if they are not born again?

That’s quite a loaded question, but a good one nevertheless. There’s a big difference between an infant and a nineteen year old. If the parents are unsaved or unmarried, one would have to assume that the child is not guilty of the parents sin. If that child becomes a young adult, he or she will be be judge based on their relationship with Jesus.

 

[MessageOfTheCross]

Salvation is not about what one does but what Christ did, so children are saved anyway. A person can only walk out of the love of Christ and not into the love of Christ. A child abides in the love of Christ because they love and never hate.

Biblical marriage is just sex (becoming one flesh) and nothing more. A child is only obtained by way of marriage (sex) and no other means. Even if the parents commit adultery, the child is innocent, the charge will be against the parents and not the child.

Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me. Psalm 51:5

 

[Noose]

Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me. Psalm 51:5

That's before Christ's atoning sacrifice that reconciled everything back to God:

Col 1:19For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him, 20and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross.

 

[MessageOfTheCross]

Grace and mercy - all children go to heaven.

Every one that passeth among them that are numbered, from twenty years old and above, shall give an offering unto the LORD. Exodus 30:14

God commanded those who were twenty years old and above to pay a ransom for their souls because anyone nineteen years and below were consider by God to be children and were under the protective head of the household. If he was only nineteen he was not old enough to pay a ransom for his own soul, he was still covered under his fathers ransom.

God will confirm this again in two other places of scripture. I am a firm believer in the "two witness theory," which is that there should be at least two scriptures to verify any Bible teaching that we use.

He decided to punish them by allowing them to die in the Wilderness. Israel was condemned to wander for the next forty years in the Wilderness while these people died. But God did not sentence everyone to die in the Wilderness. Along with Joshua, Caleb and their families he spared the children of those that had sinned against him. Anyone who was twenty years and older was condemned to die in the Wilderness because God held them accountable for their sin against him. But God in his mercy spared the children. Anyone who was nineteen years and under were spared and not held accountable because God saw them as children. Here are some of the scriptures to confirm this.

Num 14:29: Your carcases shall fall in this wilderness; and all that were numbered of you, according to your whole number, from twenty years old and upward, which have murmured against me,

We can tell that he would destroy those who were twenty and older and spare those who were nineteen years and younger but, how does this prove accountability? Maybe he just picked a random number to spare and went by that? Well lets look in Deuteronomy and see what it says concerning their accountability.

Deuteronomy 1:39 Moreover your little ones, which ye said should be a prey, and your children, which in that day had no knowledge between good and evil, they shall go in thither, and unto them will I give it, and they shall possess it.

This scripture is speaking of the same thing that we just read about in Numbers 14:29. It is speaking of all Israel who was considered by the Lord to not be held accountable for the sins of Israel. In this verse he says because they had no knowledge between good and evil. This clearly shows us that in Gods view anyone who is under twenty years old is insufficient when it comes to making decisions about what is good and evil. He did not hold them accountable for themselves.

 

[Aerials1978]

Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me. Psalm 51:5

You have to take into account the context in which David wrote this. He was lamenting about the sin he had committed with Bathsheba.

 

[MessageOfTheCross]

That's before Christ's atoning sacrifice that reconciled everything back to God:

Col 1:19For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him, 20and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross.

We all are born sinners.