Jonah Died and went to Hell

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Rather than answer a question with a question I think you should answer directly the question put to you as pertains to your allusion about Jesus. The question was: "Are you saying that Christ did not die for our sins according to the Scriptures, that he was buried and rose again the third day? "
It was according to the scripture. The demonstration as a living sacrifice (God cannot die) began in the garden .The father poured out his wrath and the Son of man Jesus. By reason of his suffering he cried out three times. The Father giving him the strength of His Spirit to finish it. Then the three day worked moved to cross and into the Tomb.

The parable below shows the living work . Using sweat as if it was blood to demonstrate the unseen work of the Spirit. The word as in as it were indicates a parable is in view.

Many misinterpret that to mean literal blood which is used to represent the unseen Spirit. Literal blood with out the spirt essence of life has nothing to offer. The power comes exclusively from the unseen Spirit. Just as with Jonas

Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done. And there appeared an angel unto him from heaven, strengthening him. And being in an agony he prayed more earnestly: and his sweat was as it were great drops of blood falling down to the ground. And when he rose up from prayer, and was come to his disciples, he found them sleeping for sorrow, And said unto them, Why sleep ye? rise and pray, lest ye enter into temptation. And while he yet spake, behold a multitude, and he that was called Judas, one of the twelve, went before them, and drew near unto Jesus to kiss him. 42-47

Then the demonstration was moved to the next part of that three day demonstration of living sacrifice. . the Cross and the Tomb.
 
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This summary is a lot clearer thank you. My belief and yours do not align on this. There is lots of scriptural support for those who are in torment in Sheol/Hades. And this will lead to the lake of fire on the Day of Judgement. I think you may be rowing against the current in terms of conventional Christian belief on this one.
Thanks for the reply.

It one of times to row against the current and restore the spiritual understanding hid from natural man.

Ecclesiastes 12:7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.

The wage of sin is death,( body, soul and mind) never to rise to new spirit life for those who have not been born again.

The beginning of the doctrine of hell begins in Genesis 4 . With a suffering Cain could not bear, as Christ cursed the heart of the earth there was no sabbath rest for Cain as beast of the field (666) a marked man . Who sold the birth rite for a little eye comfort. Plowed Abel under the corn field. Out of sight out of mind. The pagan religious foundation . (no faith the unseen eternal )

A work that Christ bore for born again Abel, the first martyr. Christ is the lamb of God slain from the foundation of the world. The six days he did work resting as our Sabbath rest on the last day .It was demonstrated outwardly 2000 years ago.

Hell is a living sacrifice . By reason of living suffering the father poured out his Spirit life on the Son of man in jeopardy of his own Spirit life. Salvation, the work of two working together in perfect harmony.
 

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It was according to the scripture. The demonstration as a living sacrifice (God cannot die) began in the garden .The father poured out his wrath and the Son of man Jesus. By reason of his suffering he cried out three times. The Father giving him the strength of His Spirit to finish it. Then the three day worked moved to cross and into the Tomb.

The parable below shows the living work . Using sweat as if it was blood to demonstrate the unseen work of the Spirit. The word as in as it were indicates a parable is in view.

Many misinterpret that to mean literal blood which is used to represent the unseen Spirit. Literal blood with out the spirt essence of life has nothing to offer. The power comes exclusively from the unseen Spirit. Just as with Jonas

Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done. And there appeared an angel unto him from heaven, strengthening him. And being in an agony he prayed more earnestly: and his sweat was as it were great drops of blood falling down to the ground. And when he rose up from prayer, and was come to his disciples, he found them sleeping for sorrow, And said unto them, Why sleep ye? rise and pray, lest ye enter into temptation. And while he yet spake, behold a multitude, and he that was called Judas, one of the twelve, went before them, and drew near unto Jesus to kiss him. 42-47

Then the demonstration was moved to the next part of that three day demonstration of living sacrifice. . the Cross and the Tomb.
Oh brother! This is a dangerous view of Scripture. You do not take the Scriptures to be literal but spiritualize everything. And what has this led to? You do not believe that Christ literally died for our sins, was literally buried, and He literally rose from the dead the third day.
 

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Thanks for the reply.

It one of times to row against the current and restore the spiritual understanding hid from natural man.

Ecclesiastes 12:7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.

The wage of sin is death,( body, soul and mind) never to rise to new spirit life for those who have not been born again.
Ok lets deal with this bot by bit. Starting with the starting assertion: You imply that a wicked man, when he dies, is under no further punishment.

Now I refer you to your RED highlighted section above.

Now my counter scripture to you (starting at the very beginning):

Genesis 2
16 And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, “Of every tree of the garden you may freely eat; 17 but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die.

- we all know that Adam did not physically die that day, the day he ate it. Something else happened. He died spiritually (seperation from God).

Now my second counter verse:

Revelation 14
9 Then a third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, “If anyone worships the beast and his image, and receives his mark on his forehead or on his hand, 10 he himself shall also drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out full strength into the cup of His indignation. He shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. 11 And the smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever; and they have no rest day or night, who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name.”

- God does not lie.
 

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No, Psalm 40 is David's deliverance while in this life.
Job 33 speaks to how to keep ones self free of the pit. A teaching to the living.
The Book of Jonah, one of the minor prophet books we should note, and chapter 2 is Jonah's prophecies. The whale vomiting Jonah on dry land is not Jonah arriving at Nineveh ,as God had told him to travel there in the beginning, because Nineveh is located on the Tigris.

Where are the verses that say the living are able to enter Sheol?
Jonah was dead. David was not. Nor was Job, just to throw that in there.

Consider the comparison. Huge storm, Jonah thrown overboard by those on the ship thinking it would save them from the storm, Jonah swallowed by a great fish, some say whale, but it was the belly of Sheol, where he stayed for three days as one dead, think Jesus there and His three days in the tomb, the body dead, the spirit departed to minister unto those in Sheol, then he's vomited on the dry land and seemingly learns not to doubt God's orders and do what he's told for the people of Nineveh. Which Jonah concedes to and does go there.
Then Jonah questions God's intention to spare the people of Nineveh. As if he didn't learn his lesson after being covered with big fish bile? The only prophet in the old testament sent by God directly to the Gentiles, and Jonah still has his own temperament and will?
Nineveh repented, God withheld his wrath.
Jonah is 4 chapters long.

Jonah's Anger and the Lord's Compassion
The Book of Jonah chapter 4 But it displeased Jonah exceedingly,[a] and he was angry. 2 And he prayed to the Lord and said, “O Lord, is not this what I said when I was yet in my country? That is why I made haste to flee to Tarshish; for I knew that you are a gracious God and merciful, slow to anger and abounding in steadfast love, and relenting from disaster. 3 Therefore now, O Lord, please take my life from me, for it is better for me to die than to live.” 4 And the Lord said, “Do you do well to be angry?”

5 Jonah went out of the city and sat to the east of the city and made a booth for himself there. He sat under it in the shade, till he should see what would become of the city. 6 Now the Lord God appointed a plant[b] and made it come up over Jonah, that it might be a shade over his head, to save him from his discomfort.[c] So Jonah was exceedingly glad because of the plant. 7 But when dawn came up the next day, God appointed a worm that attacked the plant, so that it withered. 8 When the sun rose, God appointed a scorching east wind, and the sun beat down on the head of Jonah so that he was faint. And he asked that he might die and said, “It is better for me to die than to live.” 9 But God said to Jonah, “Do you do well to be angry for the plant?” And he said, “Yes, I do well to be angry, angry enough to die.” 10 And the Lord said, “You pity the plant, for which you did not labor, nor did you make it grow, which came into being in a night and perished in a night. 11 And should not I pity Nineveh, that great city, in which there are more than 120,000 persons who do not know their right hand from their left, and also much cattle?”

Footnotes:
  1. [a]Jonah 4:1 Hebrew it was exceedingly evil to Jonah
  2. Jonah 4:6 Hebrew qiqayon, probably the castor oil plant; also verses 7, 9, 10
    [*][c]Jonah 4:6 Or his evil


To think Jonah was alive as himself in Sheol one has to show those scriptures that inform us the full living flesh, human with their soul, is able to go to the place of the dead, and then return back to life. And when we are told the Rephaim, the spirits of the departed dead, reside there.
Maybe if I post the scriptures you can see it easier.

Jonah 2:6 I went down to the bottoms of the mountains; the earth with her bars was about me for ever: yet hast thou brought up my life from corruption, O Lord my God.

Psalm 40:2 He brought me up also out of an horrible pit, out of the miry clay, and set my feet upon a rock, and established my goings.

Lamentations 3:55-58
55 I called upon thy name, O Lord, out of the low dungeon.
56 Thou hast heard my voice: hide not thine ear at my breathing, at my cry.
57 Thou drewest near in the day that I called upon thee: thou saidst, Fear not.
58 O Lord, thou hast pleaded the causes of my soul; thou hast redeemed my life.

Job 33:29-30
29 Lo, all these things worketh God oftentimes with man,
30 To bring back his soul from the pit, to be enlightened with the light of the living.


Now just compare these scriptures and listen to what they say INSTEAD of your pre-conceived ideas of what you think MUST be.

It should be pretty obvious that they are describing the same place from where they require deliverance and ONLY the Lord can deliver them from this place.

Compare the bolded black then compare what happens afterward in red.


I can't MAKE you see it but I'm sure there must be some that do.
 

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Maybe if I post the scriptures you can see it easier.

Jonah 2:6 I went down to the bottoms of the mountains; the earth with her bars was about me for ever: yet hast thou brought up my life from corruption, O Lord my God.

Psalm 40:2 He brought me up also out of an horrible pit, out of the miry clay, and set my feet upon a rock, and established my goings.

Lamentations 3:55-58
55 I called upon thy name, O Lord, out of the low dungeon.
56 Thou hast heard my voice: hide not thine ear at my breathing, at my cry.
57 Thou drewest near in the day that I called upon thee: thou saidst, Fear not.
58 O Lord, thou hast pleaded the causes of my soul; thou hast redeemed my life.

Job 33:29-30
29 Lo, all these things worketh God oftentimes with man,
30 To bring back his soul from the pit, to be enlightened with the light of the living.


Now just compare these scriptures and listen to what they say INSTEAD of your pre-conceived ideas of what you think MUST be.

It should be pretty obvious that they are describing the same place from where they require deliverance and ONLY the Lord can deliver them from this place.

Compare the bolded black then compare what happens afterward in red.


I can't MAKE you see it but I'm sure there must be some that do.
Words are important to God. None of the words in the Jonah account match the ones you've posted. When you compare Scripture to Scripture it is a comparison of words. Hell has bars. Jonah experienced corruption. The Lord did not experience corruption because He's greater than Jonah. Jonah was in hell out of his disobedience. The Lord chose to go there to preach victory over death and hell. Jonah was resurrected the third day and prayed from the whale's belly. The prayer at this point was a thankful prayer for being delivered and yet, he is still in the belly of the whale. He was delivered from hell.
 

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Words are important to God. None of the words in the Jonah account match the ones you've posted. When you compare Scripture to Scripture it is a comparison of words. Hell has bars. Jonah experienced corruption. The Lord did not experience corruption because He's greater than Jonah. Jonah was in hell out of his disobedience. The Lord chose to go there to preach victory over death and hell. Jonah was resurrected the third day and prayed from the whale's belly. The prayer at this point was a thankful prayer for being delivered and yet, he is still in the belly of the whale. He was delivered from hell.
Jonah wasn't resurrected because he didn't die. He was in the belly of the fish for 3 days and 3 nights and then was let out. Because he prayed to God.

Jonah didn't preach to the captives. Jonah is not a type of Christ.


If you read the scripture a little more carefully you will see Jonah is describing the same things as David and whoever wrote Lamentations and Job.
 

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Rather than answer a question with a question I think you should answer directly the question put to you as pertains to your allusion about Jesus. The question was: "Are you saying that Christ did not die for our sins according to the Scriptures, that he was buried and rose again the third day? "
The only signs Jesus gave about Jonah is 3 days and 3 nights...very clear....
 
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Ok lets deal with this bot by bit. Starting with the starting assertion: You imply that a wicked man, when he dies, is under no further punishment.

Now I refer you to your RED highlighted section above.

Now my counter scripture to you (starting at the very beginning):

Genesis 2
16 And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, “Of every tree of the garden you may freely eat; 17 but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die.

- we all know that Adam did not physically die that day, the day he ate it. Something else happened. He died spiritually (seperation from God).

Now my second counter verse:

Revelation 14
9 Then a third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, “If anyone worships the beast and his image, and receives his mark on his forehead or on his hand, 10 he himself shall also drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out full strength into the cup of His indignation. He shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. 11 And the smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever; and they have no rest day or night, who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name.”

- God does not lie.
Death as in dying corruption. . one will die .The wrath of God being revealed from heaven. 70 years of living in a body of death is the average that can be expected.

Psalm 90:10 The days of our years are threescore years and ten; and if by reason of strength they be fourscore years, yet is their strength labour and sorrow; for it is soon cut off, and we fly away.

David describes them all by reasoning of his suffering "the pangs of hell".

Psalm 31:10 For my life is spent with grief, and my years with sighing: my strength faileth because of mine iniquity, and my bones are consumed.

The smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever.. . never to rise to new spirit life.

dead .. dead... dead. Not dead asleep like that of the believers. They will rise on the last day . God is a God of mercy not a God of everlasting vengeance. His mercy triumphs over everlasting vengeance.

Genesis is the first to give us the details of the "doctrine of hell" using Cain and Abel.. Again it would seem some over zealous self righteous group think they have received their just punishment. . torturing consuming bones that have no spirit life forever and ever without end. .
 

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Words are important to God. None of the words in the Jonah account match the ones you've posted. When you compare Scripture to Scripture it is a comparison of words. Hell has bars. Jonah experienced corruption. The Lord did not experience corruption because He's greater than Jonah. Jonah was in hell out of his disobedience. The Lord chose to go there to preach victory over death and hell. Jonah was resurrected the third day and prayed from the whale's belly. The prayer at this point was a thankful prayer for being delivered and yet, he is still in the belly of the whale. He was delivered from hell.
Here is when jonah realised and prayed.
Jon 2:7 KJV When my soul fainted within me I remembered the LORD: and my prayer came in unto thee, into thine holy temple.

Soul fainted witin me. I remembered...
 

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Jonah wasn't resurrected because he didn't die. He was in the belly of the fish for 3 days and 3 nights and then was let out. Because he prayed to God.

Jonah didn't preach to the captives. Jonah is not a type of Christ.


If you read the scripture a little more carefully you will see Jonah is describing the same things as David and whoever wrote Lamentations and Job.
This is a prayer thanking God for being delivered, and yet he is still in the belly of the whale. He's been delivered from hell and corruption. There's no reason not to take Jonah's experience literally.

6 I went down to the bottoms of the mountains; the earth with her bars was about me for ever: yet hast thou brought up my life from corruption, O Lord my God.
7 When my soul fainted within me I remembered the Lord: and my prayer came in unto thee, into thine holy temple.
8 They that observe lying vanities forsake their own mercy.
9 But I will sacrifice unto thee with the voice of thanksgiving; I will pay that that I have vowed. Salvation is of the Lord.
 

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The only signs Jesus gave about Jonah is 3 days and 3 nights...very clear....
He clearly states, "As Jonah, so am I." If Jonah was alive and did not die, then the Lord was alive and did not die.
 

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If Jonah didn't die and his soul went to hell, then the Lord didn't die. Jesus stated, as Jonah so am I. But the Lord's body did not see corruption as Jonah experienced.
Do you really believed that Jonah died and didnt see corruption....

Well i guess that from your belief Jesus is not the only Holy One.
Psa 16:10 KJV For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.

See this should apply only to the Holy One..Jesus...
Maybe your jesus is just a copycat?
 

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Do you really believed that Jonah died and didnt see corruption....

Well i guess that from your belief Jesus is not the only Holy One.
Psa 16:10 KJV For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.

See this should apply only to the Holy One..Jesus...
Maybe your jesus is just a copycat?
Did you even read what I posted? The Lord's body didn't see corruption. Jonah's body did see corruption. The bible states that Jonah was brought up from corruption, but the Lord never saw it, as you posted.
 

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Did you even read what I posted? The Lord's body didn't see corruption. Jonah's body did see corruption. The bible states that Jonah was brought up from corruption, but the Lord never saw it, as you posted.
I saw it....
Who can see/verify that the body already seen corruption or not???
The uncontested evidence is the resurrection...
If u claimed that jonah was resurrected...then he is the first holy one before Jesus.
Also. Is it the body or his life that suffer corruption...like because of his affliction...
Jon 2:6 KJV I went down to the bottoms of the mountains; the earth with her bars was about me for ever: yet hast thou brought up my life from corruption, O LORD my God.
 

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Eccl 12:7 . .Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit
shall return unto God who gave it.

The second half of that passage is what interests me the most because
Adam's body was made of the dust of the earth, but his soul wasn't made
like that. According to Gen 2;7, the breath of life made Adam's soul.

So; I think it's fairly safe to assume that where Ecc 12:7 says that the spirit
shall return to God, it's talking about God laying claim to a dead person's
soul; and that is a very, very unnerving proposition.

"It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God." (Heb 10:31)

According to Matt 10:28, assassins can take the life of a man's body, but
they are powerless to take the life of a man's soul; which means that a
man's death doesn't terminate his existence; there's still God to reckon with.

Matt 10:28 . . Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill
the soul. Rather, be afraid of the one who can destroy both soul and body in
hell.

The Greek word for "hell" in that verse isn't hades, it's geena (gheh' en-nah)
i.e. the sum of all fears. So then, the rich man incarcerated in hades as per
Luke 16:19-31 still has his soul and won't lose it till he's transferred to
geena during the great white throne event depicted at Rev 20:11-15 were
people will undergo a gruesome termination akin to a foundry worker falling
into a kettle of molten iron.

Matt 16:26 . .What good will it be for a man if he gains the whole world,
yet forfeits his soul? Or what can a man give in exchange for his soul?

There are far too many people on internet forums casually discussing the
sum of all fears as if they're in a Jane Austen book club discussing a chapter
of Pride And Prejudice. Well; let me say to those grasshoppers: the hades
described in Luke 16:19-31 is bad enough, but the geena of Isa 66:23-24,
Matt 10:28, and Mark 9:43-48 is much worse because it's in there where
people lose their human souls and quite possibly given a demonic soul in
exchange.

I'm not claiming the part I said about a demonic soul is true; I'm only
suggesting it's a distinct possibility because the lake of fire wasn't initially
constructed for humans, rather it was initially constructed for the Devil and
his angels. (Matt 25:41)
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I saw it....
Who can see/verify that the body already seen corruption or not???
The uncontested evidence is the resurrection...
If u claimed that jonah was resurrected...then he is the first holy one before Jesus.
Also. Is it the body or his life that suffer corruption...like because of his affliction...
Jon 2:6 KJV I went down to the bottoms of the mountains; the earth with her bars was about me for ever: yet hast thou brought up my life from corruption, O LORD my God.
You're spiritualizing the passage instead of taking it literally. Jonah is a type of Christ. He is an exception. The exception proves the rule. This is why Jesus can use Jonah as a type of what He was going to do.
 
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Words are important to God. None of the words in the Jonah account match the ones you've posted. When you compare Scripture to Scripture it is a comparison of words. Hell has bars. Jonah experienced corruption. The Lord did not experience corruption because He's greater than Jonah. Jonah was in hell out of his disobedience. The Lord chose to go there to preach victory over death and hell. Jonah was resurrected the third day and prayed from the whale's belly. The prayer at this point was a thankful prayer for being delivered and yet, he is still in the belly of the whale. He was delivered from hell.
Jonas experienced the normal day by day corruption . In dying you will die. A dying corrupted creation. With Jonas as a form of discipline for his rebellion

The body of the Son of man did not see corruption as in dead .Because the father answered him as he suffered as a living sacrifice. God does not accept dead sacrifices. After crying out as the reason of suffering the pangs of hell. Each time the Father gave him spiritual life to strengthen to finish the "work of the two" . It the work of the father and Son forms the government of peace that surpasses our understanding. This was because of our rebellion unlike Jonas a discipline for refusing to do the will.

Jonas as all believers have not been resurrected and therefore received their new incorruptible bodies. He simply suffered the pangs of hell, the wage of sin as disciplinary action.

The soul of the Son of man, Jesus did not die as the result of corruption. Again and again three times the father with the Son working with Him Jesus cried out for strength. The father gave him spirit life in jeopardy of his own to finish the work of a living sacrifice.

Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption. Thou hast made known to me the ways of life; thou shalt make me full of joy with thy countenance.Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day. Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne; He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.Acts2: 27-31
 

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Eccl 12:7 . .Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit
shall return unto God who gave it.


The second half of that passage is what interests me the most because
Adam's body was made of the dust of the earth, but his soul wasn't made
like that. According to Gen 2;7, the breath of life made Adam's soul.


So; I think it's fairly safe to assume that where Ecc 12:7 says that the spirit
shall return to God, it's talking about God laying claim to a dead person's
soul; and that is a very, very unnerving proposition.


"It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God." (Heb 10:31)

According to Matt 10:28, assassins can take the life of a man's body, but
they are powerless to take the life of a man's soul; which means that a
man's death doesn't terminate his existence; there's still God to reckon with.


Matt 10:28 . . Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill
the soul. Rather, be afraid of the one who can destroy both soul and body in
hell.


The Greek word for "hell" in that verse isn't hades, it's geena (gheh' en-nah)
i.e. the sum of all fears. So then, the rich man incarcerated in hades as per
Luke 16:19-31 still has his soul and won't lose it till he's transferred to
geena during the great white throne event depicted at Rev 20:11-15 were
people will undergo a gruesome termination akin to a foundry worker falling
into a kettle of molten iron.


Matt 16:26 . .What good will it be for a man if he gains the whole world,
yet forfeits his soul? Or what can a man give in exchange for his soul?


There are far too many people on internet forums casually discussing the
sum of all fears as if they're in a Jane Austen book club discussing a chapter
of Pride And Prejudice. Well; let me say to those grasshoppers: the hades
described in Luke 16:19-31 is bad enough, but the geena of Isa 66:23-24,
Matt 10:28, and Mark 9:43-48 is much worse because it's in there where
people lose their human souls and quite possibly given a demonic soul in

exchange.

I'm not claiming the part I said about a demonic soul is true; I'm only
suggesting it's a distinct possibility because the lake of fire wasn't initially
constructed for humans, rather it was initially constructed for the Devil and
his angels. (Matt 25:41)

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I was with you until that last few points, which I disagree with.

Nevertheless I was thinking about Hades/Sheol and Hell and how this could be likened to a system on earth. It is similar to Jail and Prison. When a crime is committed of a serious enough nature you are arrested and put in Prison (without bail) until such time that you are an assigned a court date. This is where you are to present your case and if found guilty, you would typically go from there to prison.

Now we know that the Lord's judgements are always true, so if you die outside of the faith, you go to Jail (Hades/Sheol) until the Day of Judgement, where the Goats who are found guilty are thrown into the Lake of Fire (Prison).

This is just an analogy I thought about. Not saying its scriptural. Just surmising.
 

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You're spiritualizing the passage instead of taking it literally. Jonah is a type of Christ. He is an exception. The exception proves the rule. This is why Jesus can use Jonah as a type of what He was going to do.
If i take it literally even worst...
Dead body cannot pray...
Spirit goes back to God.

God do not need dead prophet...He can select another one...

So if the dead can pray..can we ask the dead to pray for us?

Mat 12:40 KJV For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

This is very clear....the only signs from Jonah is the 3 days and 3 nights...
Who said about resurection????
Whos the one spiritualizing?