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PS

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Why are you having a hard time understanding that God "imputes" righteousness? (Romans 4:6) The word "impute" simply means to charge or put to one's account. Other translations say "credits" or "reckons." It's not painful and is the only way in the eyes of God that we will be seen as righteous. Apart from the righteousness of God in Him, we remain clothed in our own filthy rags of righteousness/our sins remain.

What's painful was for Jesus to become sin for us on the cross. 2 Corinthians 5:17 - For He made Him who knew no sin to be sin for us, that WE might become the righteousness of God in Him.
Imputation is an accusation; an attribution, as of fault: for example we have been imputed with Adams sin.

1Sa_22:15 Did I then begin to enquire of God for him? be it far from me: let not the king impute any thing unto his servant, nor to all the house of my father: for thy servant knew nothing of all this, less or more.

2Sa_19:19 And said unto the king, Let not my lord impute iniquity unto me, neither do thou remember that which thy servant did perversely the day that my lord the king went out of Jerusalem, that the king should take it to his heart.

Rom_4:8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.

Moving on:
2 Corinthians tells us those who come to Christ are no longer credited with Adams sin.
Therefore, if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new. And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation; To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation. (2Co 5:17-19 KJV)

And there it stops. Our sins or trespasses are wiped away, they are no more.

However, people on here take it further and think they are imputed with God's grace, but seeing as the grace of God is infinite and beyond our ability to measure. His grace has no beginning and therefore no end. If they think they have been imputed with God's grace, that is plain silly if not heresy. WE ARE NOT GODS.

I have to go out.
 

oyster67

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What did Jesus do on the cross?

He Saved Us.

He did not impute us. (Sounds painful.)
I see what your difficulty is. You think 'impute' means 'impale'. Actually, the meaning is closer to 'inherit'.
 

PS

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I see what your difficulty is. You think 'impute' means 'impale'. Actually, the meaning is closer to 'inherit'.
That was meant to be a joke.

People do misunderstand me so. They take my jokes seriously and when I am serious they think it is a joke. O' woe is me. :)
 

Melach

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did anyone see conor mcgregor's return to ufc? kicked cerrone's head clean off within 40seconds. i hope he stays in mma now and stays focused on the comeback trail to knockout khabib in russia. instead of another circus moneygrab with floyd losing again to a senior fighter. he cant beat any good boxer like pacquaoi or mayweather but he can dominate in mma.
 

Lightskin

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He imputes the righteousness of Christ, freely GIVES salvation as an irrevocable GIFT and PLACES said saved and justified child in a position of GRACE THAT OUT BOUNDS ALL SIN because EVERY SIN HAS BEEN PAID FOR AT THE CROSS!!
How can anyone disagree with this?
 
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EleventhHour

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Ladies and Gentleman today's feature presentation is....

"The Invasion of the Red X Man"
 
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EleventhHour

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did anyone see conor mcgregor's return to ufc? kicked cerrone's head clean off within 40seconds. i hope he stays in mma now and stays focused on the comeback trail to knockout khabib in russia. instead of another circus moneygrab with floyd losing again to a senior fighter. he cant beat any good boxer like pacquaoi or mayweather but he can dominate in mma.
Watched a bit of his interview.... I did follow George St. Pierre from Quebec, when he retired I lost interest.
 
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EleventhHour

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That was meant to be a joke.

People do misunderstand me so. They take my jokes seriously and when I am serious they think it is a joke. O' woe is me. :)
Here is a tip...when joking .. state "just kidding"
 

PS

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How can anyone disagree with this?
"He imputes the righteousness of Christ, freely GIVES salvation as an irrevocable GIFT and PLACES said saved and justified child in a position of GRACE THAT OUT BOUNDS ALL SIN because EVERY SIN HAS BEEN PAID FOR AT THE CROSS!!"
Christ is perfect, we never will be. We can and do backslide. If we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice. Hebrews 10:26
 

Lightskin

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Christ is perfect, we never will be. We can and do backslide. If we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice. Hebrews 10:26
You “maintain” your salvation. Sad.
 
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Christ is perfect, we never will be. We can and do backslide. If we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice. Hebrews 10:26
Boy oh boy, how many times do we deal with this on BDF
...the irony is Hebrews affirms assurance and the security of salvation from start to finish.
 

PS

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Boy oh boy, how many times do we deal with this on BDF
...the irony is Hebrews affirms assurance and the security of salvation from start to finish.
Wrong.

For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame. (Heb 6:4-6 KJV)
 

Lightskin

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I try to live a life that pleases God.

I take it you see no need of that?
I’m a hospice chaplain providing comfort, peace and the reassurance of God’s love and saving grace in Jesus Christ to terminally ill patients. How’s that for good?