Not By Works

[Discern]

Nope

you would still be judging

Judging who?

 

[Discern]

Discern is focused on sin...rather than the cross ... I find this interesting from someone who agrees with OSAS?

John spoke a lot about sin. Is that interesting to you too?

 

[Lightskin]

I didn’t make it up

I never thought of it as immoral. Blasphemous, but not immoral.

 

[EleventhHour]

So the mafia guy that murders is one sin. Not a lifestyle unless other sins are involved? Is that what you’re saying

This is really getting silly now... you remind of someone on here who used to like to try corner people too....hmmmm...just sayin.

 

[Lightskin]

John spoke a lot about sin. Is that interesting to you too?

John was preparing the way for the Lord.

 

[Discern]

So David did not know adultry was a sin. Smh

2 Samuel 12:8.

 

[Discern]

John was preparing the way for the Lord.

I was referring to the apostle

 

[Discern]

I never thought of it as immoral. Blasphemous, but not immoral.

Nothing more immoral than rejecting Jesus

 

[Lightskin]

Nothing more immoral than rejecting Jesus

And yet immoral people do moral things. Jesus states that very clearly.

 

[Lightskin]

I was referring to the apostle

Oh, THAT John. 😆

 

[Discern]

Discern is focused on sin...rather than the cross ... I find this interesting from someone who agrees with OSAS?

Poor John the apostle John, Paul, Peter, Jude, etc. they spent a lot of time talking about sin too

 

[Discern]

And yet immoral people do moral things. Jesus states that very clearly.

But they broke the first commandment.

If they break one, they’re guilty of all right?

Rejecting Jesus is immoral

 

[EleventhHour]

And yet immoral people do moral things. Jesus states that very clearly.

Thank you
I think my point was clear about people leading a moral life.
It means that their behaviour is such that it conforms well to the moral code which can give the "appearance" of an inward new life.

 

[EleventhHour]

Poor John the apostle John, Paul, Peter, Jude, etc. they spent a lot of time talking about sin too

They did indeed... in contrast to the glorious work of Christ Jesus...is that what you are doing??? hmmm

 

[Discern]

But they broke the first commandment.

If they break one, they’re guilty of all right?

Rejecting Jesus is immoral

Btw, I did not say amoral. I said immoral

 

[Discern]

Thank you
I think my point was clear about people leading a moral life.
It means that their behaviour is such that it conforms well to the moral code which can give the "appearance" of an inward new life.

I didnt say amoral. I said rejecting Jesus is immoral. There is a difference

They do not live AMORAL lives, but you cannot say someone is morally upright if they reject Jesus

 

[Discern]

They did indeed... in contrast to the glorious work of Christ Jesus...is that what you are doing??? hmmm

Yes. The glorious work of Christ includes spiritual resurrection to newness of life

 

[Discern]

If anyone contrary to eternal security is reading, I hold to eternal security. It is not a license to sin, when understood

 

[EleventhHour]

I didnt say amoral. I said rejecting Jesus is immoral. There is a difference

They do not live AMORAL lives, but you cannot say someone is morally upright if they reject Jesus

I know the difference.

Many people have never heard the Gospel or have yet to hear the Gospel so I disagree with you stringing the two together.

And morality is not to be confused with righteousness.. and not debating this further

Except to state you seem to want to prove the dogma of preservation of the saints over and over ...it is the ongoing theme of all you posts...however you are unwilling to recognize that a person's justified status is an inward reality not always outwardly manifested.

 

[EleventhHour]

If anyone contrary to eternal security is reading, I hold to eternal security. It is not a license to sin, when understood

The does mean perseverance of the saints is correct either.

The fact that you have defend OSAS by stating it is not a license to sin tells me quite a bit.