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If then David calls him ‘Lord,’ how can he be his son?
(Matthew 22:45)
And in that day there shall be a Root of Jesse,
Who shall stand as a banner to the people;
For the Gentiles shall seek Him,
And His resting place shall be glorious.
(Isaiah 11:10)
as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up,
that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life.
(John 3:14-15)
serpents were sent against the Israelites when they accused God of evil in the same way they did immediately after being redeemed from Egypt ((cmp. Numbers 21:5-6 & Exodus 14:11)). is this not the same lie the Pharisees, Herodians & Sadducees are all accusing Christ of, calling the work of the Spirit the work of the Devil? see Matthew 21:23. see Matthew 22:15. they are trying to kill Him when He confounds them about being David's lord. see Matthew 21:46. all of this is in the context of the cursing of the fig tree, Matthew 21:18-22.(Isaiah 11:10)
as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up,
that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life.
(John 3:14-15)
I should add here that as the son of man, His fellow Jews saw His lineage as through Mary and Joseph. Jesus line through the mother hearkened back to David. His father on earth was Joseph, and His lineage would appear to be seen as that, and He would have been known through that lineal inheritance as Yeshua (Joshua) ben (son of) Joseph.
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Well most believe as I do, I got it from reading and studying na d talking with others.
jesus is also called the son of David as shown with scripture (one of his many names and titles)
luke also shows that as the son of david. (seed) he will sit on davids throne in jerusalem
the point is, it is,not david who will sit as the chart said
jesus is also called the son of David as shown with scripture (one of his many names and titles)
luke also shows that as the son of david. (seed) he will sit on davids throne in jerusalem
the point is, it is,not david who will sit as the chart said
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The only thing that is "backfiring" is your silliness.
Galatians 3:10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.
This is what needs to be meditated on.
I pretty much knew before I even looked at it that the Psalms would NOT say 10 commandments but instead would say "Law of the Lord" or Law of God.
Now you just need to read 2 Corinthians 3 and see if you can decide whether this Law of the Lord that is a delight is the Ministration of Death and Condemnation or the Ministration of Righteousness.
I really think you can do this.
Galatians 3:10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.
This is what needs to be meditated on.
I pretty much knew before I even looked at it that the Psalms would NOT say 10 commandments but instead would say "Law of the Lord" or Law of God.
Now you just need to read 2 Corinthians 3 and see if you can decide whether this Law of the Lord that is a delight is the Ministration of Death and Condemnation or the Ministration of Righteousness.
I really think you can do this.
God gave the 10 commandments to Moses. That is not in dispute.
But that is Moses Law.
It is NOT the Law of God.
Romans 6:14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.
This couldn't be said of Gods Law. Only of Moses Law. The 10 commandments.
Gods Law couldn't be called the Ministration of Death.
Only Moses Law could be called the Ministration of Death. The 10 commandments written on stone.
Romans 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
One of those is the Law of God and the other is the 10 commandments.
It should be OBVIOUS, especially to a Christian, that the law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus is the Law of God and the law of sin and death is the 10 commandments.
But you can always refer back to 2 Corinthians 3:7 if you get confused.
But that is Moses Law.
It is NOT the Law of God.
Romans 6:14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.
This couldn't be said of Gods Law. Only of Moses Law. The 10 commandments.
Gods Law couldn't be called the Ministration of Death.
Only Moses Law could be called the Ministration of Death. The 10 commandments written on stone.
Romans 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
One of those is the Law of God and the other is the 10 commandments.
It should be OBVIOUS, especially to a Christian, that the law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus is the Law of God and the law of sin and death is the 10 commandments.
But you can always refer back to 2 Corinthians 3:7 if you get confused.
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What you don't seem to realize is, God's Ten Words contained the Torah.
The Book of Exodus chapter 24:12 Adonai said to Moshe, “Come up to me on the mountain, and stay there. I will give you the stone tablets with the Torah and the mitzvot I have written on them, so that you can teach them.”
The laws of God are in Exodus. And all were written in stone.The Decalogue was given to Moses in chapter 20. .
The Book of Exodus chapter 34 is more of God's laws, and after the first were smashed.
see Exodus 32. While the Ten words are the synopsis what are in the categories of those Mitzvot.
32:15 Moshe turned and went down from the mountain with the two tablets of the testimony in his hand, tablets inscribed on both sides, on the front and on the back. 16 The tablets were the work of God; and the writing was the writing of God, engraved on the tablets.
The Book of Exodus chapter 24:12 Adonai said to Moshe, “Come up to me on the mountain, and stay there. I will give you the stone tablets with the Torah and the mitzvot I have written on them, so that you can teach them.”
The laws of God are in Exodus. And all were written in stone.The Decalogue was given to Moses in chapter 20. .
The Book of Exodus chapter 34 is more of God's laws, and after the first were smashed.
see Exodus 32. While the Ten words are the synopsis what are in the categories of those Mitzvot.
32:15 Moshe turned and went down from the mountain with the two tablets of the testimony in his hand, tablets inscribed on both sides, on the front and on the back. 16 The tablets were the work of God; and the writing was the writing of God, engraved on the tablets.
I would not speak for other than myself in these instances.
The assertion is representative of the Millennial kingdom.
The Book of Ezekiel chapter 37
24 My servant David will be king over them, and all of them will have one shepherd; they will live by my rulings and keep and observe my regulations. 25 They will live in the land I gave to Ya‘akov my servant, where your ancestors lived; they will live there — they, their children, and their grandchildren, forever; and David my servant will be their leader forever. 26 I will make a covenant of peace with them, an everlasting covenant.
The assertion is representative of the Millennial kingdom.
The Book of Ezekiel chapter 37
24 My servant David will be king over them, and all of them will have one shepherd; they will live by my rulings and keep and observe my regulations. 25 They will live in the land I gave to Ya‘akov my servant, where your ancestors lived; they will live there — they, their children, and their grandchildren, forever; and David my servant will be their leader forever. 26 I will make a covenant of peace with them, an everlasting covenant.
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Who said you trapped me, please read carefully. I SAID YOU TRIED TO TRAP ME and if I used the word "appear" that is not conclusive, didn't I say that? You are fabricating something I never said.
You can deliberately blind yourself or deny the fallacious tactic you used which showed you. After putting thumbs up you then ask questions and and run to eternally-gratefull telling him wait for sundown's respond? You were already prepared to shoot your to try make me eat my words, but it backfired. Though your tactic did not work, you could have told me upfront what you said at the end and in a court of law they would have questioned you on why you were not direct. You know exactly what you tried to do, but it backfired. Psalm 1 says it all, and the man shall prosper in anything he does if he delights in the law and meditate in them day and night. I do not recall you commenting on that and if you didn't it's because you have to eat your words.
YOU USED A MALICIOUS TACTIC, BUT IT DID NOT WORK AND DON'T TELL ME A BROTHER SHOULD NOT BE TALKING TO A BROTHER THAT WAY. In addition, I had problems with eternally-gratefull, I got into some of his past post and I was correct, others had problems with him. I started over and because he cannot accept a view he starts again say your wrong and never once did I say he was wrong. I told him I am tired of repeating myself, it appears as if he has a reading comprehension probably and I am here to discuss a topic not to say you are wrong, the way one knows if they are wrong they have to truthfully weigh the view that is presented. He continues to not respond to what I told him to read, why don't you ask him why, he would not answer me, meanwhile he wants me to answer all his question. That is what kids do and I told him I will stop telling him to GROW UP giving him the chance to discuss respectfully, but he is not respectful.
Why am I telling you about him because you need to see the true colors a person. I am not impress with people who are knowledgeable in the Scriptures, what impress me is when people put the word of God in its right perspective and he has a problem doing that, he is like a copy and paste person, he is told and he says when is why he continue over and over and over again, just like the other person grandpa and those two I had it with, they are both repetitious and I respond because I because I do not like to put aside post that sent to me, but they are both a joke. That is the end of both of them..
Who said you trapped me, please read carefully. I SAID YOU TRIED TO TRAP ME and if I used the word "appear" that is not conclusive, didn't I say that? You are fabricating something I never said.
You can deliberately blind yourself or deny the fallacious tactic you used which showed you. After putting thumbs up you then ask questions and and run to eternally-gratefull telling him wait for sundown's respond? You were already prepared to shoot your to try make me eat my words, but it backfired. Though your tactic did not work, you could have told me upfront what you said at the end and in a court of law they would have questioned you on why you were not direct. You know exactly what you tried to do, but it backfired. Psalm 1 says it all, and the man shall prosper in anything he does if he delights in the law and meditate in them day and night. I do not recall you commenting on that and if you didn't it's because you have to eat your words.
YOU USED A MALICIOUS TACTIC, BUT IT DID NOT WORK AND DON'T TELL ME A BROTHER SHOULD NOT BE TALKING TO A BROTHER THAT WAY. In addition, I had problems with eternally-gratefull, I got into some of his past post and I was correct, others had problems with him. I started over and because he cannot accept a view he starts again say your wrong and never once did I say he was wrong. I told him I am tired of repeating myself, it appears as if he has a reading comprehension probably and I am here to discuss a topic not to say you are wrong, the way one knows if they are wrong they have to truthfully weigh the view that is presented. He continues to not respond to what I told him to read, why don't you ask him why, he would not answer me, meanwhile he wants me to answer all his question. That is what kids do and I told him I will stop telling him to GROW UP giving him the chance to discuss respectfully, but he is not respectful.
Why am I telling you about him because you need to see the true colors a person. I am not impress with people who are knowledgeable in the Scriptures, what impress me is when people put the word of God in its right perspective and he has a problem doing that, he is like a copy and paste person, he is told and he says when is why he continue over and over and over again, just like the other person grandpa and those two I had it with, they are both repetitious and I respond because I because I do not like to put aside post that sent to me, but they are both a joke. That is the end of both of them..
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With your statement, "I asked about those who lived by the law are not cursed....that is a question to clarify your stand", am I wrong to tell you that you need to elaborate on that statment because though I know what you probably mean, the fact is that those who live by the law are judged by the law. But the Spirit of God enlightened me with your statement... The Scriptures says those who have no law will perish and those who have with be judged by the law. My question to would you rather perish without the law and be judged by the law? Better judge, because it is there to instruction us to do that which is right before God. This is what I mean about being obedient to God. Yesterday God put something in my mind... those who opposes my laws focuses on the curse of the law, why aren't they focusing on the blessings of the law, did I take the blessing of the law to the cross or just the curse of the law? Think on this question. See they do not understanding that there are blessing being obedient to the law.
I just want respectful discussions, but those two I mentioned they I will avoid, eternally-gratefull is history, but I won't hold it on grandpa, he is of age and is good person, just that I am tired of repeating myself. As for eternally-gratefull, I already know all about him, he is a person that one should avoid discussing a topic with him and I say this respectfully, but it appears many have problems with him.
With your statement, "I asked about those who lived by the law are not cursed....that is a question to clarify your stand", am I wrong to tell you that you need to elaborate on that statment because though I know what you probably mean, the fact is that those who live by the law are judged by the law. But the Spirit of God enlightened me with your statement... The Scriptures says those who have no law will perish and those who have with be judged by the law. My question to would you rather perish without the law and be judged by the law? Better judge, because it is there to instruction us to do that which is right before God. This is what I mean about being obedient to God. Yesterday God put something in my mind... those who opposes my laws focuses on the curse of the law, why aren't they focusing on the blessings of the law, did I take the blessing of the law to the cross or just the curse of the law? Think on this question. See they do not understanding that there are blessing being obedient to the law.
I just want respectful discussions, but those two I mentioned they I will avoid, eternally-gratefull is history, but I won't hold it on grandpa, he is of age and is good person, just that I am tired of repeating myself. As for eternally-gratefull, I already know all about him, he is a person that one should avoid discussing a topic with him and I say this respectfully, but it appears many have problems with him.
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They rather listen the doctrine of men then being obedient to the commandments of God. Not to mention, Yeshua was teaching something, being religious means nothing, but true religion is what James (if I recall) stated, showing hospitally. Believe me, I am older than you, I probably can be your father, but you make statements at times which then the Spirit of God enlightens me with scripture truth. It is a compliment I am giving you, take it humbly and I am sure you do.
God has hidden the truth from the learned and revealed it to children and maybe we can say it this way, God hid the truth those who think they know it all and revealed it to those who are willing to learn.
I love to discuss the law with you, but not here because the same question is asked over and over. I want to put my view on the table, you can refute me, when can have a respectful conversation. I am not here to convince anyone of my view that is not me job. Do you have my email? I cannot recall if you sent it. Also, you post like you are a male and not a female, so I want to make sure you are a male because as a married man I do not allow myself to be put in a position that can ruin my marriage even if it is in friendship. So, if you are a male then we can exchange emails.
They rather listen the doctrine of men then being obedient to the commandments of God. Not to mention, Yeshua was teaching something, being religious means nothing, but true religion is what James (if I recall) stated, showing hospitally. Believe me, I am older than you, I probably can be your father, but you make statements at times which then the Spirit of God enlightens me with scripture truth. It is a compliment I am giving you, take it humbly and I am sure you do.
God has hidden the truth from the learned and revealed it to children and maybe we can say it this way, God hid the truth those who think they know it all and revealed it to those who are willing to learn.
I love to discuss the law with you, but not here because the same question is asked over and over. I want to put my view on the table, you can refute me, when can have a respectful conversation. I am not here to convince anyone of my view that is not me job. Do you have my email? I cannot recall if you sent it. Also, you post like you are a male and not a female, so I want to make sure you are a male because as a married man I do not allow myself to be put in a position that can ruin my marriage even if it is in friendship. So, if you are a male then we can exchange emails.
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Grandpa why are you getting angry, because I said you continue of what I said that I am tired an repeating myself to you because of you constant repetitious questions? That is causing siliness? You are history in my books, you are just like unitedforchrist and eternally-fulfilled.
Don't respond because I will no longer respond to you, but ask yourself two questions...
1) There are blessings in the law and a curse in the law, Yeshua took the curse of the law to the cross, what happens to the blessings of the law, did it dissolved?
2) Even though I don't like to use the word trinity, where in the Scriptures does it say trinity? Does that mean that Yeshua is not Deity because it does not say the word Trinity?
You and the other two are stuck on the teachings of men, they have impressed you like with a hot iron with their teaching.
Don't bother responding you are history.
Grandpa why are you getting angry, because I said you continue of what I said that I am tired an repeating myself to you because of you constant repetitious questions? That is causing siliness? You are history in my books, you are just like unitedforchrist and eternally-fulfilled.
Don't respond because I will no longer respond to you, but ask yourself two questions...
1) There are blessings in the law and a curse in the law, Yeshua took the curse of the law to the cross, what happens to the blessings of the law, did it dissolved?
2) Even though I don't like to use the word trinity, where in the Scriptures does it say trinity? Does that mean that Yeshua is not Deity because it does not say the word Trinity?
You and the other two are stuck on the teachings of men, they have impressed you like with a hot iron with their teaching.
Don't bother responding you are history.
