Who will populate the earth in the 1000 year Reign

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When he comes from heaven , & new Jerusalem with HIM , Is when he will punish the wicked , They will surround the city , and fire will come from GOD out of heaven , and devour them .
 
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Agreed. And it wouldn’t be His entire body. Most of the Church has died and are present with the Lord. One would have to believe only a small part of His body would go through the tribulation. And why would that be so?
Because GOD dose not think like we DO . REV 16:12 THE church is still here at the sixth vial is poured out ,
At REV 16: 17 is the end of the world . the church will be HERE ,through the plagues . But GOD will be with them .
WE are not no better then the reformers , they gave their lives . We need to be ready to give our lives also . and some will.
 

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There is no 1000 year reign. If there were, flesh and blood cannot inherit it. Only saints in glorified bodies. This means when Satan is loosed he would have saints in glorified bodies attacking other saints in glorified bodies until the Lord returns.

The 1000 years = the binding of Satan. Not the kingdom. Satan attacks the kingdom when the 1000 years end.
There is difference between prince/ princesses and commoners...
Though they both live in the kingdom.
The prince/s will inherit the kingdom.
 

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When he comes from heaven , & new Jerusalem with HIM , Is when he will punish the wicked , They will surround the city , and fire will come from GOD out of heaven , and devour them .
Here is a possible order...
1000 years reign then satan will be loose in a little season...those who still alive except for the saints will be decieved by satan...then they will go against the saint encamped in the city.
Then the Day of the Lord (mentioned by peter) where elements shall melt and then the old earth will passed away.
All the wicked will be resurrected and face the great white throne judgement and shall be cast in the lake of fire.
Then the new earth and heaven without the moon, the sun, the sea
But there will be water in it.
Then from heaven then New Jerusalem will come down.
 

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Because GOD dose not think like we DO . REV 16:12 THE church is still here at the sixth vial is poured out
No! The church is not here during the sixth vial. The word "ekklesia" translated "church" is used 19 times throughout chapters 1 thru 3 and never seen again until chapter 22:16. Please show us where the church is mentioned within the seals, trumpets or bowl judgments. You won't find it!

[quoteAt REV 16: 17 is the end of the world . the church will be HERE ,through the plagues . But GOD will be with them .
WE are not no better then the reformers , they gave their lives . We need to be ready to give our lives also . and some will.[/QUOTE]

Your problem, is that you don't know the different between the common trials and tribulations which come at the hands of mankind and the powers of darkness vs. God's coming wrath via the seals, trumpets and bowl judgments. The apostles and reformers did not suffer the wrath of God but the common trials and tribulations that Jesus said we would have. However, the seals, trumpets and bowl judgment will be God's unprecedented wrath, i.e. He is the One who will be causing them. Jesus will be the One who is opening the seals, which leads into the trumpets and the bowls. This coming wrath of God, the church is not appointed to suffer.

Therefore, though you are correct in that believers should be ready to be persecuted and even put to death, we will not be on the earth to suffer God's coming wrath, which is what the majority of the book of Revelation is about.
 

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No! The church is not here during the sixth vial. The word "ekklesia" translated "church" is used 19 times throughout chapters 1 thru 3 and never seen again until chapter 22:16. Please show us where the church is mentioned within the seals, trumpets or bowl judgments. You won't find it!

[quoteAt REV 16: 17 is the end of the world . the church will be HERE ,through the plagues . But GOD will be with them .
WE are not no better then the reformers , they gave their lives . We need to be ready to give our lives also . and some will.
Your problem, is that you don't know the different between the common trials and tribulations which come at the hands of mankind and the powers of darkness vs. God's coming wrath via the seals, trumpets and bowl judgments. The apostles and reformers did not suffer the wrath of God but the common trials and tribulations that Jesus said we would have. However, the seals, trumpets and bowl judgment will be God's unprecedented wrath, i.e. He is the One who will be causing them. Jesus will be the One who is opening the seals, which leads into the trumpets and the bowls. This coming wrath of God, the church is not appointed to suffer.

Therefore, though you are correct in that believers should be ready to be persecuted and even put to death, we will not be on the earth to suffer God's coming wrath, which is what the majority of the book of Revelation is about.[/QUOTE]
Are the seven churches mentioned in revelation still stands?
 

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There is no millennium. If there were, only glorified saints would populate it since flesh and blood cannot inherit the Kingdom. This leaves only glorified saints for Satan to rally in war against the other glorified saints when loosed.
Revelation 20:4-6 says otherwise. It specifically states that those in the first resurrection will reign with Christ for a 1000 years.
 

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This seems to be the case.
Those who are in Christ will receive glorified bodies when he comes...

The majority of the visions in Revelation is about the middle east.
1. 7 churches
2. 12 tribes (144000)
3. The woman
4. The song of Moses
5. The two witnesses in great city
6. Armageddon

Those nations who against Jerusalem are most likely armies.

Non military will survive this war. Will enter the new era. Christ will reign in Jerusalem
1Co 15:25 KJV For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
 
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Revelation 20:4-6 says otherwise. It specifically states that those in the first resurrection will reign with Christ for a 1000 years.
“IF THEN you have been raised with Christ [to a new life, thus sharing His resurrection from the dead], aim at and seek the [rich, eternal treasures] that are above, where Christ is, seated at the right hand of God.” Colossians 3:1 (AMP)

We presently rule with Christ. If the 1000 years are the Kingdom, how does Satan attack it when it ends?
 
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There is difference between prince/ princesses and commoners...
Though they both live in the kingdom.
The prince/s will inherit the kingdom.
“But if I with the finger of God cast out devils, no doubt the kingdom of God is come upon you.” Luke 11:20 (KJV 1900)
The kingdom arrived with Jesus.
 

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“But if I with the finger of God cast out devils, no doubt the kingdom of God is come upon you.” Luke 11:20 (KJV 1900)
The kingdom arrived with Jesus.
Thats the beginning of understanding... and thus the kingdom come upon you.
When or If they believed that Jesus was casting out demons by the power Of God...and not by the power of devil...

If you believed that his power comes from God..then you will beileved the he is from God...thus kingdom comes to you
 

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“IF THEN you have been raised with Christ [to a new life, thus sharing His resurrection from the dead], aim at and seek the [rich, eternal treasures] that are above, where Christ is, seated at the right hand of God.” Colossians 3:1 (AMP)

We presently rule with Christ. If the 1000 years are the Kingdom, how does Satan attack it when it ends?
Please read my post #24
 
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Please read my post #24
This is the order but you are applying it to a physical kingdom. Here's how it works out with the present spiritual kingdom. Satan was bound by the gospel from deceiving the nations (Greek = ethnic groups throughout the world.) This fulfilling the promise to Abraham. He was recently loosed to deceive the world so that we are now living in the post Christian era. The church is being assailed from all quarters especially from within. Christ's return is imminent resulting in the resurrection, the rapture and the conflagration of the universe. And the New Heavens and Earth emerging from it.
 

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This is the order but you are applying it to a physical kingdom. Here's how it works out with the present spiritual kingdom. Satan was bound by the gospel from deceiving the nations (Greek = ethnic groups throughout the world.) This fulfilling the promise to Abraham. He was recently loosed to deceive the world so that we are now living in the post Christian era. The church is being assailed from all quarters especially from within. Christ's return is imminent resulting in the resurrection, the rapture and the conflagration of the universe. And the New Heavens and Earth emerging from it.
Present spiritual kingdom????
Did not paul said he MUST REIGN...
 
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Present spiritual kingdom????
Did not paul said he MUST REIGN...
Here's the problem The Kingdom is here, but only the born again can see it.

“Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.” John 3:3 (KJV 1900)
 

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Here's the problem The Kingdom is here, but only the born again can see it.

“Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.” John 3:3 (KJV 1900)
Cannot see that means immediately...
Did Jesus said
Mat 16:28 KJV Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.
 
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Cannot see that means immediately...
Did Jesus said
Mat 16:28 KJV Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.
No, unless born again, you cannot see it even though it's here.
 

watcher2013

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No, unless born again, you cannot see it even though it's here.
I am not saying you do not need to be born again. What iam saying, the kingdom is future....what scriptures say that there is spiritual kingdom?
 
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I am not saying you do not need to be born again. What iam saying, the kingdom is future....what scriptures say that there is spiritual kingdom?
Please consider the spiritual nature of the Kingdom:

“And saying, Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.” (Matthew 3:2) (KJV 1900)

“And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.” (Matthew 11:12) (KJV 1900)

“Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.” (Matthew 16:28) (KJV 1900)

“Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.” (1 Corinthians 15:50)

“Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.” (John 3:3) (KJV 1900)

“Jesus answered, “I tell you the solemn truth, unless a person is born of water and spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God.” (John 3:5)

“Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.” (John 18:36) (KJV 1900)

“And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:” (Luke 17:20) (KJV 1900)

“Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.” (Luke 17:21) (KJV 1900)

“But if I cast out demons by the finger of God, then the kingdom of God has already overtaken you.” (Luke 11:20)

“The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.” Luke 16:16 (KJV 1900)

“because we are not looking at what can be seen but at what cannot be seen. For what can be seen is temporary, but what cannot be seen is eternal.” (2 Corinthians 4:18)

“Now when the people saw the miraculous sign that Jesus performed, they began to say to one another, “This is certainly the Prophet who is to come into the world.” Then Jesus, because he knew they were going to come and seize him by force to make him king, withdrew again up the mountainside alone.” (John 6:14–15)

“He delivered us from the power of darkness and transferred us to the kingdom of the Son he loves,” (Colossians 1:13)

When Jesus saw that he answered intelligently, He said to him, “You are not far from the kingdom of God.” And no one dared to question Him any longer.” (Mark 12:34) (HCSB)

“for the kingdom of God is not eating and drinking, but righteousness, peace, and joy in the Holy Spirit.” (Romans 14:17) (HCSB)

“I, John, your brother and fellow partaker in the tribulation and kingdom and perseverance which are in Jesus, was on the island called Patmos because of the word of God and the testimony of Jesus.” Revelation 1:9 (NASB95)

“But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women.” Acts 8:12 (KJV 1900)

“That ye would walk worthy of God, who hath called you unto his kingdom and glory.” 1 Thessalonians 2:12 (KJV 1900)

“And he went into the synagogue, and spake boldly for the space of three months, disputing and persuading the things concerning the kingdom of God.” Acts 19:8 (KJV 1900)

“And when thy days [David] be fulfilled, and thou shalt sleep with thy fathers, I will set up thy seed after thee, which shall proceed out of thy bowels, and I will establish his kingdom. He shall build an house for my name, and I will stablish the throne of his kingdom for ever.” 2 Samuel 7:12–13 (KJV 1900)